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xD_toooften
post Nov 27 2004, 05:28 PM
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i'm thining about either buying myself an ipod/ipodmini or asking for one from my parents.
from past experiences, which one would you all prefer? iPod or iPod mini...
 
 
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post Nov 30 2004, 06:26 PM
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Get an iPod mini, unless you're willing to spend the extra money or somehow have over 1000 songs you need to copy into your mp3 player. Do NOT get the creative zen player. Before I wanted to not be like everyone else, like x juicy, but I went through several reviews on each "iPod competitor" and none of them were as good as the iPod. In my opinion, the creative zen player comes closest...it's far easier to scratch or damage the iPod and it's completely international, meaning it can easily play songs in foreign languages, something the iPod can't. It's also pretty small, even though slightly heavier and larger than the iPod. The music transferring is quick and easy, and the battery can last up to 24 hours, I've heard, whereas the iPod only has 12. It's also a bit cheaper than the iPod.

But despite all that, the iPod is still better. _dry.gif So my advice is to get a mini.

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Oh yeah, and I got this really good review from amazon on the good mp3 players out there:

Reviewer: Ronald Cronovich (Henderson, NV)


Since getting my new 4th generation iPod, I've spent a LOT of time with it. I also have MP3 players by Creative and iRiver, and I will compare the iPod to them.

DESIGN AND EASE OF USE:

The iPod has always been the most elegantly designed player on the market, which is why people pay the iPod premium. This is my first iPod, and using it is really a joy, moreso than the other players I've used (not that they are bad).

Using the iPod is easy and intuitive. Within an hour of opening the box, you will have installed the software on your computer, transferred a dozen CDs to the iPod, and be comfortable using most of the features and commands on the iPod. To learn more advanced features, like how to create a playlist on your iPod on the fly, you'll need to read the manual. But, the manual is very well-written, and makes it easy to find just the thing you need. (The manual is supplied only as a PDF file on the CD-ROM, though you get a printed GETTING STARTED guide in the box.)

To transfer music to your iPod, you must use the iTunes software, which doubles as a store that sells downloadable music and audio books. I like the iTunes store, and find the prices reasonable, but please be assured that you needn't ever visit the music store if you don't wish. The software is a very nicely designed manager of your iPod's library.


SOUND QUALITY:

I compared the iPod with my other music players by plugging them into a high-end stereo, which is better to distinguish subtle differences between players than just comparing through headphones.

The iPod sounds very good. Not quite as good as the Creative player, but as good or a little better than the iRiver (which CNET rated highly for sound quality). The difference in sound quality between the iPod and the Creative players is probably too small to affect your purchase decision unless you are a very picky audiophile.


PERFORMANCE:

The iPod puts out enough volume to power any headphones.

File transfers are very, very fast, whether using USB2 or FireWire (and the iPod comes with both cables, a nice bonus). It takes a second or less for each song to be transferred to the player.

I haven't tested battery life, but CNET's independent review reports battery life at 13 hours. (Apple advertises 12 hours - how refreshing to see the actual time be LONGER than advertised!!)


DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 20GB AND 40GB iPODS:

The 40gb version comes with a dock, is a couple millimeters thicker and a half ounce heavier than the 20gb version. This extra size & weight is too small to be noticable, unless you have a scale or are extremely sensitive.


OTHER THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW:

If you are concerned that the 20gb version doesn't include the dock, don't worry - you can live just fine without it. Connecting the iPod to your computer using either cable works great, and the iPod's battery will charge while the player is connected to your computer (or plugged into a wall outlet using the included adapter).

However, the dock makes it a little more convenient to connect the iPod to your home stereo (and charge the iPod at the same time).

(Note: to connect the iPod to a stereo, with or without the dock, you will need to buy a separate cable with a standard mini-jack on one end and two standard RCA plugs on the other, about $10 at any Circuit City or Best Buy)


NEGATIVES:

The iPod is more expensive per gigabyte than other players, and the battery is not user-replacable. (The competitors - Zen Touch, Karma, and iRiver IHP 120/140 - do not have user-replacable batteries, either.) For a price, Apple or 3rd party vendors can replace the battery for you if it ever dies.

The player doesn't accept WMA format. If you already have a lot of music in unprotected WMA format, the iTunes software will convert these files to Apple's proprietary AAC format so that they'll work with the iPod. However, there may be some loss in quality, which is inevitable whenever you convert a compressed file from one format to another.

The real problem is when you have a bunch of PROTECTED WMA files, such as those you buy from MusicMatch. To get such files on your iPod, you must first burn them onto a CD, then re-insert the CD into your computer (as if it were a regular music CD) and use iTunes to rip the songs to an iPod-friendly format like MP3 or AAC. This procedure is time-consuming, and may result in a small loss in sound quality.


THE BOTTOM LINE:

I recommend the new 4th generation iPod very highly.

Still, I encourage you to check out the iRiver iHP 120/140, the Rio Karma, and the new Creative Zen Touch. If you buy the Creative, be careful - it only comes with a 90-day warranty (compared to the iPod's one year). My Creative player died shortly after the warranty expired, and Creative charged me over $100 to fix it!

If you want the iPod but hesitate because it's more expensive than the competition, keep in mind that you're probably going to use this player for a good long while. An extra 50 bucks spread out over three years or so is well worth it to get such a great player.

If you are learning toward the 20gb iPod because you don't think you'd ever need 40gb, I ask you this: Have you ever purchased a laptop, and then a year later kicked yourself for not getting a bigger hard drive with it? It's good to take the long view.


 

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xD_toooften   Apple IPOD   Nov 27 2004, 05:28 PM
krnxswat   Your decision should reflect on your preferences; ...   Nov 27 2004, 05:37 PM
DittotoAnne18   QUOTE(krnxswat @ Nov 27 2004, 5:37 PM)Your de...   Nov 27 2004, 05:44 PM
NatiMarie   iPod of course. ;] x]   Nov 27 2004, 05:49 PM
tweeak   ipod is great because it holds more songs, but min...   Nov 27 2004, 06:11 PM
EXPLO5ION   well a mini has 1000 songs and a normal ipod holds...   Nov 27 2004, 06:20 PM
Days Nearly Over   uhm, which one's cheaper? moved.   Nov 27 2004, 06:46 PM
dreamerOi   i kind of want a color ipod. but man they are rip ...   Nov 27 2004, 06:59 PM
kryogenix   Neither. I think Creative Lab's Zen is really ...   Nov 27 2004, 07:36 PM
gvoxford   Don't get a mini. They suck. iPod's are te...   Nov 27 2004, 08:59 PM
x juicy   i got a creative lab zen at first because i didn...   Nov 27 2004, 10:35 PM
xD_toooften   i heard that the Dell DJ 20 is good too, but you h...   Nov 28 2004, 02:00 PM
unrequited   ooh get an ipod!! I'm thinking of aski...   Nov 28 2004, 04:00 PM
anqie   ipod.. i want an ipod.   Nov 28 2004, 05:23 PM
faithin_felix   QUOTE(Days Nearly Over @ Nov 27 2004, 6:46 PM...   Nov 28 2004, 07:30 PM
mirage   i-pod mini if you want to save money =)   Nov 28 2004, 09:20 PM
gothicvengeance   Get an iPod mini, unless you're willing to spe...   Nov 30 2004, 06:26 PM
iEnigma   I disagree completley. The iPod 4G is only $5...   Nov 30 2004, 07:12 PM
pandamonium   there is a new one from ipod mp4 player it can pla...   Nov 30 2004, 08:05 PM
sadolakced acid   if you care more about the music than the looks, a...   Dec 1 2004, 11:32 PM
kryogenix   Actually, I like the Creative Nomad Zen out of all...   Dec 2 2004, 05:17 PM
DUDEiROCK   Do iPod Minis come with battery chargers?   Dec 3 2004, 08:57 PM
sadolakced acid   might i add that you can't buy the internation...   Dec 4 2004, 12:03 AM
iheartsimba   a regular ipod is better for me...it holds more so...   Dec 4 2004, 12:04 AM
Frankie   i don't have one, but at school, i have seen i...   Dec 4 2004, 06:50 PM
toyo loco   i have a mini! i kinda like it better than a ...   Dec 5 2004, 04:35 PM
PurchasedRebellion   I got a mini, cause I wanted pink. Ha. Buuuuuuuu...   Dec 6 2004, 12:50 PM
wayne   regular ipod. cause 1. for 50 dollars more you can...   Dec 9 2004, 10:25 PM
glit_gal   QUOTE(DUDEiROCK @ Dec 3 2004, 8:57 PM)Do iPod...   Dec 10 2004, 09:59 PM
kleenex_for_kayla   I'm getting a regular one for christmas...Its ...   Dec 12 2004, 10:58 PM
sadolakced acid   glit_gal, look into the iriver h320. same price...   Dec 12 2004, 11:02 PM
weirdness   regular :PP im getting a regular for christmas he...   Dec 14 2004, 05:11 PM
kryogenix   i will never really understand why anyone would ne...   Dec 14 2004, 06:29 PM
nas   40gb's I can't imagine either But 64m...   Dec 14 2004, 11:12 PM
NatiMarie   I have an iRiver H340. :O   Dec 14 2004, 11:26 PM
sadolakced acid   iriver- totally rocks, for totally less.   Dec 15 2004, 02:17 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(nas @ Dec 14 2004, 11:12 PM)40gb's ...   Dec 15 2004, 06:59 AM
nas   Yeah, free? Then I wouldn't complain either. ...   Dec 15 2004, 02:37 PM
KissMe2408   The ipod can hold more then twice as many songs, b...   Dec 16 2004, 06:40 AM
sadolakced acid   you don't want to jog with a mini; it's...   Dec 16 2004, 02:20 PM
xquizit   well, i don't know about u guys but i love my ...   Dec 16 2004, 02:42 PM
kryogenix   creative labs Zen Micro is cheaper than the mini, ...   Dec 16 2004, 02:44 PM
Days Nearly Over   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Dec 16 2004, 2:44 PM)creati...   Dec 16 2004, 03:01 PM
mechwarrior1989   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Nov 30 2004, 7:05 PM)ther...   Dec 17 2004, 11:19 PM
angel-roh   QUOTE(DUDEiROCK @ Dec 3 2004, 5:57 PM)Do iPod...   Dec 18 2004, 12:39 PM
Levy2k6   im getting a Creative Zen Micro. beats the Ipod Mi...   Dec 18 2004, 01:47 PM
jr0h   ipod regular ipod   Dec 20 2004, 05:14 PM
sadolakced acid   Iriver H320- $250 at best buy: same price a...   Dec 20 2004, 05:43 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(simplicityxx @ Nov 27 2004, 6:20 PM)wel...   Dec 23 2004, 01:12 PM
sadolakced acid   i think it's 10,000 if you're counting WMA...   Dec 23 2004, 01:16 PM
comeupon   QUOTE(PurchasedRebellion @ Dec 6 2004, 12:50 ...   Dec 23 2004, 02:49 PM
sadolakced acid   192 is generally agreeed to be near-CD quality. ...   Dec 23 2004, 02:59 PM
PurchasedRebellion   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 23 2004, 2:59 PM)...   Dec 29 2004, 01:32 PM
comeupon   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 23 2004, 2:59 PM)...   Dec 23 2004, 03:04 PM
sadolakced acid   yes, although usually the difference is not notice...   Dec 23 2004, 03:18 PM
mechwarrior1989   Most people just use the included headphones so th...   Dec 23 2004, 11:25 PM
Statistik   I ordered a mini-one..still didnt come..i cant wai...   Dec 24 2004, 03:01 PM
Statistik   QUOTE(DUDEiROCK @ Dec 3 2004, 8:57 PM)Do iPod...   Dec 24 2004, 07:20 PM
basick   get a regular ipod... i have a 20 gb ipod and IMO ...   Dec 25 2004, 01:04 AM
sadolakced acid   get an iriver h320, it's only 20 dollars cheap...   Dec 25 2004, 05:10 PM
Stately Lover   Neither. All iPods suck. Get a Sony NW-HD3, ju...   Dec 28 2004, 07:33 PM
M1SSxCHR1SSY   personally i think that getting an iPod mini is a ...   Dec 29 2004, 04:12 AM
Fonzoman   I'm also trying to decide whether I should get...   Dec 29 2004, 04:35 PM
bright eyes   Well it really does depend Are you a big music fa...   Dec 29 2004, 04:43 PM
sweet-misery   i want an iPOD mini! gimme one for muhh birthd...   Dec 29 2004, 10:01 PM
PurchasedRebellion   QUOTE(sweet-misery @ Dec 29 2004, 10:01 ...   Dec 30 2004, 10:09 AM
sadolakced acid   I dunno, i think that the H320 is sufficient, i me...   Dec 29 2004, 10:55 PM


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