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Nov 3 2004, 03:27 PM
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![]() I just "got it like that". ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 247 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,238 |
I dont know about everyone else, but i am really pissed about bush being re-elected. I dont even feel like typing all the bad things i said on my blog. If you want to read it.... here.
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Nov 4 2004, 02:39 PM
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(razbus @ Nov 4 2004, 11:20 AM) 1. Morality IS derived from religion. The term "moralality" is different that the term "ethics". I don't have morals, but i do have ethics. 2. It takes time to adjust? Adjust to what? People felt the same way about inter-racial marraiges only a few decades ago. If people still had your attitude, inter-racial marriage would be illegal. Just to give people... "time to adjust". So, you're saying that without religion, there isn't morality? What came first? Religion or morality? HAHAHAH, this basically messes up your whole religion and homosexuality arguement. After all, morality and religion are one, therefore, if religion disagree with homosexuality, morality would also. That means, homosexuals are immoral simply because they're not doing the moral thing. Religion is supposed to be moral, but moral doesn't have to be religion. With that line of arguement, I wholeheartedly disagree. There are very moral minded people who have no problem with homosexuality. You're confusing yourself with structured definitions. Think about it, what is ethics if it's not doing the right thing? Doing the right thing means you're moral. However, doing the right thing doesn't necessarily mean you're religious, now does it? They do not mean the same thing, child. Hmm, if people still have my attitude? Are you going to be a cry baby in this debate? If not, then keep the personal attack level down and duke it out with real skills. Anyway, let me ask you, did Black people win their freedom over night? No, it took years of work and many lives lost. Did interracial marriage received warm welcoming? No, it took them struggles to prove their legitimacy in society. No, it isn't fair that these groups must fight for what should be naturally accepted in society, but that's how life works. Period. Do you mean to say to me that you expected problem solved for you in life? Do you expect your freedom to be given to you on a silver plater? Did our Founding Fathers gained freedom by just complaining or did they fought for it? Since you began the personal attacks, I will entertain myself in turn: you do not understand the philosophy of the mind, I can understand that. Many youths think that everything should be freely given and forget that things that they have today were fought and won with hardword and blood of those before them. That's understandable when one wishes to remain ignorant, but it's not understandable for someone who thinks he/she knows all to rant and rave without understanding how life works. And it may be so surprising to you to know that change needs time, but that's just how life works. QUOTE 4. I have been FORCED to say the complete and entire pledge by several teachers. And it's not the fact that its the "Christian God" as you said, it's the fact that its ANY god. This country was founded in order to avoid religious constraints and prossecutions, and here we are imitating the very demons that we fought to get away from. What is your religion? You can simply address this to your counselor or VP and let them know that saying "under God" is considered to be against what you believe in. You can very much bring a lawsuit to the school if your teachers persist that you say "under God" when it is against your religion to say so. Know that our many of our founding fathers were NOT Christians. There were many Deists. Indeed ONE OF THE MANY REASONS this country was founded was to escape religious persecutions, but who will throw you in jail here for praying to the Hindu gods in school? Who here will throw you in jail for praying to Allah? You think you're persecuted? You're far from it. QUOTE 5. I was only using Hungary as an example smart ass. And the fact that companies like ford are sending jobs to mexico to save a buck or two is outragious. Of course a dollar there is worth more than here, but the fact is, that most countries dont even have minimum wage laws. And u.s. companies are exploiting that. Use a better example, dumb ass. How is it outrages when Ford's competitors, ie Toyota and Honda, can minimize their cost much easier than Ford? I can see that you've never taken an economics course in your life. Let me try to explain this as briefly, and simply as I can: You have a SMALL market for cars made only by Ford, Toyota, and Honda. Cars from Toyota and Honda are generally cheaper to make, no contest there. The only way to STAY in this market is to maximize profit by minimizing cost, that is, cost of production. Why? Because consumers, you and I, like inexpensive, quality cars. Ford cannot sale their cars for less than what it cost them to produce it. Therefore they find new ways to lower cost of production to be able to compete with low prices that Toyota and Honda are offering. That means, they will export manufacturing jobs to places that will not demand high wages. That's called strategy. As far as the economy is concerned, not only does exporting jobs lowers their cost of production, it also strengthen business ties with the other countries. That, grasshopper, is what we call globalization. QUOTE Please do not assume to know my level of maturity, or anything about me for that matter. You will have to excuse my use of the word "excuse". I am very frustrated will peoples unwillingness to change, and learn. But, anyway... thanks for your excuses uninspiredfae. It's funny how you desperately want people to understand homosexuality, yet you fail to understand people in return. You're running in a circle by your own making. You, yourself, are "unwilling" to change your opinions, yet you like to judge others about their unwillingness. Talk about unadulterated hypocrisy. |
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razbus It's official Nov 3 2004, 03:27 PM
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kryogenix America has a bright future.
4 more years. Nov 3 2004, 04:36 PM
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i... Nov 3 2004, 05:17 PM
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ComradeRed A STATE can pass limits on gun ownership.
The Fed... Nov 4 2004, 06:57 AM
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razbus Okay, here is the bottom line:
1. Bush is forcing... Nov 4 2004, 09:34 AM
Weird addiction i feel sooo dissapointed,i wanted kerry to win,bus... Nov 4 2004, 09:44 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(razbus @ Nov 4 2004, 9:34 AM)Okay, here... Nov 4 2004, 10:44 AM
sunissed14127 QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 3 2004, 7:19 PM)Pure sl... Nov 4 2004, 10:56 AM
razbus QUOTEI'm a moral person my dear, but I've ... Nov 4 2004, 11:20 AM
razbus ... I'll address this later. I have better thi... Nov 4 2004, 02:46 PM
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from eminem's song ... Nov 4 2004, 10:21 PM
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That... Nov 5 2004, 11:17 PM
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sadolakced acid the SAT scores on a precentile ranking.
it does... Nov 6 2004, 08:26 PM
azn_r4pf4n QUOTEI am glad that Bush got re-elected. Also glad... Nov 6 2004, 10:15 PM
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pandamonium hi
QUOTEI asked him if he will believe something ... Nov 6 2004, 11:19 PM
LiLEthiopian yea...i'm super DUPER pissed that Bush got re-... Nov 6 2004, 11:30 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(pandamonium @ Nov 6 2004, 11:19 PM)I kn... Nov 6 2004, 11:32 PM
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Spirited Away QUOTE(LiLEthiopian @ Nov 7 2004, 12:13 AM)and... Nov 7 2004, 12:21 AM
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pandamonium QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Nov 7 2004, 12:35 AM)So... Nov 7 2004, 12:58 AM
PinkTrash I wanted Kerry to win.. Nov 7 2004, 01:01 AM
Spirited Away Old post? You're the one who reminded me of it... Nov 7 2004, 01:02 AM
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Spirited Away QUOTE(pandamonium @ Nov 7 2004, 1:06 AM)you *... Nov 7 2004, 01:12 AM
pandamonium QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Nov 7 2004, 1:12 AM)So ... Nov 7 2004, 01:14 AM
Spirited Away No need to be sorry, they'll be a lot of clash... Nov 7 2004, 01:18 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 6 2004, 10:22 PM)... Nov 7 2004, 09:26 AM
Spirited Away My mother also told me to stand up for what I beli... Nov 7 2004, 10:48 AM
ComradeRed For what avail the plough or sail,
Or land or life... Nov 7 2004, 11:39 AM
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kryogenix QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Nov 7 2004, 10:48 AM)My... Nov 7 2004, 02:36 PM
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ComradeRed They are the moral codes of a certain belief syste... Nov 7 2004, 05:37 PM
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ComradeRed Who cares if the rich are getting richer?
Usually... Nov 7 2004, 05:51 PM
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Frankie i wanted bush more than kerry. but i don't rea... Nov 8 2004, 06:36 PM
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