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razbus
post Nov 3 2004, 03:27 PM
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I just "got it like that".
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I dont know about everyone else, but i am really pissed about bush being re-elected. I dont even feel like typing all the bad things i said on my blog. If you want to read it.... here.
 
 
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post Nov 4 2004, 11:20 AM
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I just "got it like that".
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I'm a moral person my dear, but I've never once considered myself to be Christian. Without religion, ONLY morality upholds what is right in society. Without religon AND morals, there's no point in marriage--what homosexuals are fighting for--AT ALL.

I'm currently against homosexual marriages. But like I've said MANY times in these debates, changes this drastic need time for everyone to adjust. Morally minded people do not like to see people in love not being able to married, but it takes time to adjust to the fact that those people are of the same sex. Though you may think that this is backward way of thinking, that is how the human mind works. Period. Change needs time.


1. Morality IS derived from religion. The term "moralality" is different that the term "ethics". I don't have morals, but i do have ethics.

2. It takes time to adjust? Adjust to what? People felt the same way about inter-racial marraiges only a few decades ago. If people still had your attitude, inter-racial marriage would be illegal. Just to give people... "time to adjust".

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He many not your President, but he's mine, and so was Clinton and so were Presidents that preceeded him.

Are you forced to pray to the Christian God in school? Are you forced to say the pledge? It has been a while since I'm in educational facilities that have pledges in the mornings, but I remember NOT being forced to cite it, ever. People will look you weird if you do not, but since when do you HAVE to say "under God"? Since when do you have to cite the WHOLE enchilada? Is someone going to throw you in jail for not saying "under God"? If they do, let me know and I and many others will help raise money for a lawyer for you.


3. I liked clinton. He was the best thing for this country. "Scandals" aside.

4. I have been FORCED to say the complete and entire pledge by several teachers. And it's not the fact that its the "Christian God" as you said, it's the fact that its ANY god. This country was founded in order to avoid religious constraints and prossecutions, and here we are imitating the very demons that we fought to get away from.

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Uh, yea. That's shows how much you know about exchange rates. 50 cents to them means more than it means to us. Their minimun wage law is different than ours. But how are you so sure that they get paid 50 cents an hour by American businesses?

But to move on to my point:


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The Labor Code of 1992 states that children may only be employed when they have finished their compulsory education, which effectively sets the minimum age for work at 16 years.[2158] However, children who are at least 14 years old are permitted to work if the work does not interfere with schooling or if they are exempt from attending school.[2159] All children under age 16 must obtain the consent of a legal guardian before entering into an employment contract.



The above is quoted from the Bureau of International labor affairs about Hungary's child labor laws. That should give you peace of mind about child labor there.

There are of course, children who works as beggars and in discreet sweatshops (if there are any), but doesn't that happen in every country?

Do you think that outsourcing is not regulated to ensure fairness in payment?


5. I was only using Hungary as an example smart ass. And the fact that companies like ford are sending jobs to mexico to save a buck or two is outragious. Of course a dollar there is worth more than here, but the fact is, that most countries dont even have minimum wage laws. And u.s. companies are exploiting that.

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Is that how you debate? By saying what others will say "excuses"? Shows how mature you are.


Please do not assume to know my level of maturity, or anything about me for that matter. You will have to excuse my use of the word "excuse". I am very frustrated will peoples unwillingness to change, and learn. But, anyway... thanks for your excuses uninspiredfae.
 

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razbus   It's official   Nov 3 2004, 03:27 PM
tweeak   um, yeah? im still undecided. its getting a bit pa...   Nov 3 2004, 03:36 PM
HolyMolyRavioli   I agree with you on the electoral college system. ...   Nov 3 2004, 03:47 PM
kryogenix   America has a bright future. 4 more years.   Nov 3 2004, 04:36 PM
Mr. Psychotic   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 3 2004, 1:36 PM)America...   Nov 3 2004, 04:58 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 3 2004, 2:36 PM)America...   Nov 3 2004, 05:00 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Nov 3 2004, 5:00 PM)...   Nov 3 2004, 05:07 PM
airam   i would rather have bush win rather then kerry. i...   Nov 3 2004, 05:17 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Nov 3 2004, 5:00 PM)...   Nov 3 2004, 05:27 PM
sadolakced acid   why is it not bush's fault that there is a nat...   Nov 3 2004, 06:19 PM
Teesa   i am so angry and sad at the same time..i feel ur ...   Nov 3 2004, 06:29 PM
muffin dude 292   I am not angry I actually wanted bush to win.   Nov 3 2004, 06:35 PM
metabolic666   I'm only a tad bit disapointed but oh well 4 m...   Nov 3 2004, 06:40 PM
sunissed14127   i am very pissed. I think he's a liar & a ...   Nov 3 2004, 06:53 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 3 2004, 6:19 PM)w...   Nov 3 2004, 07:19 PM
Spirited Away   *taps foot*, I'm still waiting for someone, an...   Nov 3 2004, 07:42 PM
highly_evolved   . . . . . . man i dont get it, weve all seen wat h...   Nov 4 2004, 04:59 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(highly_evolved @ Nov 4 2004, 4:59 AM). ...   Nov 4 2004, 06:41 AM
highly_evolved   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 4 2004, 6:41 AM)The rig...   Nov 4 2004, 06:43 AM
ComradeRed   A STATE can pass limits on gun ownership. The Fed...   Nov 4 2004, 06:57 AM
highly_evolved   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Nov 4 2004, 6:57 AM)I supp...   Nov 4 2004, 07:27 AM
razbus   Okay, here is the bottom line: 1. Bush is forcing...   Nov 4 2004, 09:34 AM
Weird addiction   i feel sooo dissapointed,i wanted kerry to win,bus...   Nov 4 2004, 09:44 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(razbus @ Nov 4 2004, 9:34 AM)Okay, here...   Nov 4 2004, 10:44 AM
sunissed14127   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 3 2004, 7:19 PM)Pure sl...   Nov 4 2004, 10:56 AM
razbus   QUOTEI'm a moral person my dear, but I've ...   Nov 4 2004, 11:20 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(razbus @ Nov 4 2004, 11:20 AM)1. Morali...   Nov 4 2004, 02:39 PM
razbus   ... I'll address this later. I have better thi...   Nov 4 2004, 02:46 PM
Spirited Away   Uh, yea, sure. If you have better things to do, ...   Nov 4 2004, 02:47 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sunissed14127 @ Nov 4 2004, 10:56 AM)fi...   Nov 4 2004, 02:56 PM
CrackedRearView   Kerry wins the big states on the coasts where vote...   Nov 4 2004, 04:50 PM
M1SSxCHR1SSY   i`m not sad nor angry or anything. in fact i...   Nov 4 2004, 10:17 PM
jnukes   i'm pretty pissed.. from eminem's song ...   Nov 4 2004, 10:21 PM
sunissed14127   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 4 2004, 2:56 PM)Why sho...   Nov 4 2004, 11:02 PM
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ryfitaDF   bush did know about 9/11, though. he didn't ac...   Nov 5 2004, 11:44 AM
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