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Euthenasia?, wrong or right?
sikdragon
post Sep 10 2004, 08:11 PM
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Hastening the death of a friend or loved one to decrease the long-suffering. Is this a good thing to help the patient commit suicide?




I am pro-suffering.
 
 
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post Oct 29 2004, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(VaguelyAware @ Oct 29 2004, 9:31 AM)
i think euthenasia isn't right when it's some kid trying to kill himself or something..just cause he/she wants to be dead doesn't mean it would be the right thing for them. however, if someone is lying in a hospital bed with a terminal illness or paralyzed from the neck down or something and they want to die rather than keep living like that, i believe they should have the choice.

Voluntary euthanasia has several guidelines..

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Five Individually Necessary Conditions for Candidacy for Voluntary Euthanasia
Advocates of voluntary euthanasia contend that if a person is
(a) suffering from a terminal illness;

(b) unlikely to benefit from the discovery of a cure for that illness during what remains of her life expectancy;

© as a direct result of the illness, either suffering intolerable pain, or only has available a life that is unacceptably burdensome (because the illness has to be treated in ways which lead to her being unacceptably dependent on others or on technological means of life support);

(d) has an enduring, voluntary and competent wish to die (or has, prior to losing the competence to do so, expressed a wish to die in the event that conditions (a)-© are satisfied); and

(e) unable without assistance to commit suicide,
then there should be legal and medical provision to enable her to be allowed to die or assisted to die.


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...  A final preliminary point is that the fourth condition requires that the choice to die not only be voluntary but that it be made in an enduring (not merely a one-off) way and be competent. The choice is one that will require discussion and time for reflection and so should not be settled in a moment. As in other decisions affecting matters of importance, normal adults are presumed to choose voluntarily unless the presence of defeating considerations can be established. The onus of establishing lack of voluntariness or lack of competence is on those who refuse to accept the person's choice. There is no need to deny that it can sometimes be met (e.g. by pointing to the person's being in a state of clinical depression). The claim is only that the onus falls on those who deny that a normal adult's choice is not competent.
 

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sikdragon   Euthenasia?   Sep 10 2004, 08:11 PM
Retrogressive   no! life is a thing (as far as I know) that on...   Sep 10 2004, 08:14 PM
Kathleen   Pro-suffering? Whoa. Talk about sadistic... I don...   Sep 10 2004, 08:48 PM
KaRaoKe_sLut   Personally I think that if the person is conscious...   Sep 10 2004, 09:59 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEwell then I think that the closest relative s...   Sep 10 2004, 10:06 PM
Sumiaki   QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Sep 10 2004, 8:14 PM)no...   Sep 10 2004, 10:41 PM
Retrogressive   you treasure the short time you are given on this ...   Sep 11 2004, 12:03 PM
ryfitaDF   suicide is a cowards way out, but if somone wants ...   Sep 11 2004, 12:37 PM
Retrogressive   I have to admit there are a few people I want o ki...   Sep 11 2004, 03:27 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEif their corrupt relatives waht to kil them w...   Sep 11 2004, 04:00 PM
WhiteLotus*   Well, I'm a bit for it. I got my cat eutheni...   Sep 11 2004, 10:41 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEWell, I'm a bit for it. I got my cat euth...   Sep 11 2004, 10:44 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Sep 11 2004, 4:00 PM)Say the...   Sep 12 2004, 02:02 AM
is2diexd   Yes! i think its a perfect way to help hopeles...   Sep 15 2004, 04:43 PM
heroin_like_high   I'm "pro-suffering" too. Cuz, hell, ...   Sep 15 2004, 10:43 PM
sikdragon   QUOTEYes! i think its a perfect way to help ho...   Sep 17 2004, 12:50 AM
nyctophiliac   QUOTEno! life is a thing (as far as I know) th...   Sep 19 2004, 01:56 PM
Madame C   sikdragon, fire and brimstone? Let's not be m...   Sep 23 2004, 09:29 PM
sikdragon   no the guy before me was talking about suicide and...   Sep 24 2004, 01:22 AM
espionage   QUOTEEuthanasia: Somone else making the decision t...   Sep 24 2004, 01:27 AM
sikdragon   OK IM YELLING. no not really, but what if the pers...   Sep 24 2004, 01:35 AM
sporadic   Well, in theory it's the kind thing to do, but...   Sep 24 2004, 11:57 AM
needlenymph   I think it depends on the situation...If the perso...   Sep 25 2004, 08:00 PM
najae   If I were completely paralyzed and unable to care ...   Sep 26 2004, 03:06 AM
sikdragon   there is only right and wrong, quit trying to make...   Sep 26 2004, 04:41 AM
KaRaoKe_sLut   QUOTE(needlenymph @ Sep 25 2004, 8:00 PM)But ...   Sep 27 2004, 12:16 AM
sikdragon   Everyone suffers. Why are they murdered? Pain is j...   Oct 28 2004, 11:09 PM
mzteriouzme007   QUOTEPro-suffering? Whoa. Talk about sadistic... I...   Oct 28 2004, 11:59 PM
waccoon   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Oct 29 2004, 12:09 AM)Every...   Oct 29 2004, 08:12 AM
sammi rules you   i think euthenasia isn't right when it's s...   Oct 29 2004, 08:31 AM
waccoon   QUOTE(VaguelyAware @ Oct 29 2004, 9:31 AM)i t...   Oct 29 2004, 08:35 AM
sammi rules you   ok well then there ya go. i think that ^ is perfec...   Oct 29 2004, 08:37 AM
sikdragon   Medicine is guess work. To know for a fact that so...   Oct 29 2004, 12:17 PM
sammi rules you   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Oct 29 2004, 11:17 AM)Medic...   Oct 29 2004, 01:02 PM
sikdragon   I was comparing it to eutenasia. As if we were to ...   Oct 29 2004, 01:21 PM
sammi rules you   it's not like people kill them without their c...   Oct 29 2004, 01:39 PM
sikdragon   They don't know what they want. They are in pa...   Oct 29 2004, 01:51 PM
tweeak   i dont believe in euthenasia. like abortion and th...   Oct 29 2004, 03:04 PM


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