should a christian be a republican? Options

[Retrogressive]

I guess since republicans do not believe in homosexual marriages and abortion most christians I know are republicans. But what about the seperation between church and state? I guess morals have a lot to do with who you will vote for, but shouldn't it be the right person for the job? A lot of christian republicans that I know don't believe in abortion and that is a big issue of why they voted for bush, but I haven't seen bush do anything about abortion. I don't know is it wrong to be a democrat christian? Isn't kerry a christian?

[sikdragon]

Sure, along side with obedience, curiosity, the will to survive... etc. So, what's your point?

Rebellion can be said to be part of our survial instinct. We would not want to meekly obey someone who's hurting us, do we? That's suicidal.

But obedience, curiosity, the will to survive and many other "natures" existed long before the Bible. Therefore, once again, the Bible doesn't lead what's already existed before it. It only serve to repeat what some people have forgotten/choose to forget.

It's human nature to use our logic to figure out when rebellion is good and when it is bad because it's not always just bad.

Or do you mean to tell me that our rebellious nature is all bad? 

oh im not merely stating rebellion in general. Im assuming that everyone sees God in existence inevitably. I'm writing of rebellion against God and the road less travelled. Ignorance of your creator gives a distorted view of where pain and suffering come from. Ignorance is a far dangerous weapon than any atom splitting.

Those natures have been in our ways of thinking long before the written bible, but God's word has always existed.

Read some of the stuff the Founding Fathers actually wrote.

Jefferson and Ben Franklin were Deists ... they believed that God created the world, but DID NOT play an active part in it. They invoked God the same way a Roman poet might invoke the Muses ... not "God protect us and deliver us from evil", but "We are inspired by what God stands for".

James Madison specifically said that the Constitution DID NOT permit government to fund religious schools, and that the foundations of the country were primarily secular (although certainly, religion ought to impact public life).

Do you even read what you quote?? ill give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you misread it. I said "I wasn't talking about our founding fathers."

sikdragon, you make some very odd statements. first it's that democracy wasn't an experiment and that the founding fathers were hardcore christians, now it's that religion makes this country great. i believe that it is the lack of a centralised religion that makes this country what it is. back in europe, nothing was going as well as it could have been all because of bickering over religion and genocide and what not. jefferson and the rest realised this and ensured the separation of church and state. it is religious people who are holding back our society, trying to pull us into their old world ideals. homosexuals are really a driving force in pop culture, and it's really quite stupid to say they're ruining anything.

Oh ho ho isnt the kettle calling the pot black. There is nothing new to be discovered. Everything is in cycle. No utopia on this earth is possible. Think back to a time when people could leave their doors unlocked. People helped each other out and everyone knew everyone. In today's "SELF" improvement society morality, lawfulness, and even decency have all been taken back to their primal stages. Honor doesnt even exist. To be called civilized is almost impossible. The fault of humanity is that we need to be lead. Communism fails because absolute power corrupts absolutely. Which is only true in men. The Bible describes a perfect community. Love, trust, and happiness replace greed, hate, and fear. Tell me how can loving your enemies be bad???
Without morality and law there cannot be order or peace. When laws begin to degrade to anarchy the one with the most power just creates more law of a more corrupt and biased nature. faggs, lesbians, thieves, liars, biggots, hatemongers, adulterers, terrorists, murderers, and the ignorant destroy everything our founding fathers believed in.

WE ARE GIVEN THREE GOD GIVEN RIGHTS: LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

Flip on the tv look outside, that is what happens when people have lost what their parents tried to tell them about happiness. Everyone is searching for it. Everyone is trying to fill that hole. What happiness is lost... or is it? Wait, when you're lost follow the trail of bread crumbs back through the history of your travels back to your roots. Follow the path back and retrace your steps until you've found what your looking for. If you blindly barge ahead without looking back, how will you know if you're going in circles?

Seperation of Church and state is a good thing and a bad thing. Like taking the rules off the classroom walls and expecting the kids to follow them. When religion is forced it becomes habitual and loses it's meaning. When you discover for yourself, you understand why they wanted you to follow them.

God loves you. God had to create us with freewill because he wants to love and be loved. Remember back in the day when you were fighting with your siblings and your mom or dad made your brother or sister apologize to you? It would've meant so much more if they apologized before hand and really cared if you forgave them. If you build a robot and program it to love you, it isn't the same as meeting someone who is just crazy about you or having kids who even though you have to discipline them grow up and thank-you for it. Having kids who don't stick you in a nursing home. A robot can't choose to love you. It is in it's programming. It thinks and feels what you tell it to.

With freewill when you choose not to love him, you are telling him not to invite you to stay with him.


Now back to the actual topic.
Back a long long time ago. There were small towns where everyone knew everyone. You couldn't be, let's say "different" and be open about it. You were accepted that way. Murderers and the like were stoned or lynched, depending on time period. So these different people moved to the cities which were all about change. Capitalism, making money, was just defining itself and republicans like lincoln supported it. These "different" people were becoming rich or atleast living better than their small town counter parts. Democrats supported the small towns and got support from the small towns. Then sometime along the line it switched. The conservatives became republican keeping the constitutions of the wiser generations. Democrats supported the perverseness which runs along side capitalism and freedom of the big cities. Not to say capitalism or freedom are perverse. This is where we find ourselves today. Liberal, socialists, and communists under the democratic flag are advocating change searching for the perfect society blinded by greed. Conservative republicans are running around trying to keep the good things of old. The good qualities like civilization and morality and keep them as well as the capitalism and freedom. The easiest road to morality is the road less taken, the narrow path of the Bible. The Bible is a compilation of a journey of a people who have been enlightened via divine intervention. People who have walked among the world's greatest man(God incarnate). People who have discovered life's most hidden obscure secrets. The most complex resolution...Simplicity.

Now a group of people who are trying to keep the good of our country and are Christian works smoothly. Why? They have a common enemy.