'04 Presidential Debate, President Bush vs Senator Kerry Options

[inlonelinessidie]

I was wondering if anyone watched the Presidential Debate yesterday, or if you're going to watch the following ones? I watched it and I thought it was a good debate, however I wish they would've talked about the draft. Anyways what did you guys think about it?

[ComradeRed]

He's not going to give more power to the government. You will be able to choose your own doctors and health-plan. You were talking about medicare right?

Hahahaha that's a good one.

You might be able to choose your own health plan, but you sure as hell aren't going to be allowed to choose how much you pay.

That's like requiring everyone to pay $50 for a pen, giving them a choice between one thjat is worth $5 and one that is worth $15, and calling them "free".

If Kerry was really interested in medical choice and not giving more power to the government, he would get rid of medicare altogether -- that way you would be allowed to choose EXACTLY what plan you want and HOW MUCH you want to pay.

Raise taxes on the rich.

And if they leave?

10% of Americans pay almost 85% of the taxes. That's just not fair. It's their money -- why shouldn't they be allowed to keep it?

And many people in that top 10% are hardworking upper middle class people who are probably not much different from people you know. Do you know how much taxable income you have to make to be in the top 10%? About $80,000.

I was doing college financial aid stuff -- my family pays 30% of its income in JUST income taxes -- not to mention property taxes, sales taxes, etc. According to the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, the typical American pays 47% of his/her income just to support the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

The Cato Institute estimates that, when you include state and local taxes, the amount is anywhere between 55% and 65%.

In other words, the average American works three days out of the week to support Halliburton, drug addicts, welfare bums, corrupt bureaucrats, even more corrupt politicians, girls who didn't think before having sex, etc. and only TWO days to support himself and his family.

And we wonder why so many Americans are in debt and have financial problems? And we wonder why family values are degrading? It has nothing to do with abortion or gay rights or anything like that -- most ordinary Americans can't afford to have family values any more because of people like Hillary Clinton.

And the situation isn't getting any better -- as there become fewer workers and an older population, the definition of "the rich" will continually be revised downwards -- until the average American making $40,000 a year is subjected to two-thirds taxation to support an increasing number of people who've decided that working just isn't worth it any more. After all, welfare PAYS. We've spent over $8 TRILLION on welfare since Lyndon B Johnson's great society. If you divide that by the number of people who have gotten chronic welfare aid, that means that we pay the average person on welfare $50,000 A YEAR. So why work for $40,000, pay $25,000 of it in taxes, when you can just get $50,000 from doing nothing?

In 1773 the British levied a SIXPENCE tax on tea (that is an 6% tax). Historians estimate that, in 1775, the average American paid less than TWO PERCENT of his income in taxes to King and Parliament. And what did we do? We overthrew them.

Today, the average American pays FIFTY percent -- that is, twenty-five times more than in 1775 -- of his income in taxes to President and Congress. And what do we do? Form special interest groups and try to steal as much money from everyone else as we can before this government goes down in flames.