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anti-american sentimen, and whats wrong with our country
sikdragon
post Aug 11 2004, 10:33 PM
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I am an American and i am proud. Now why the hell is anti-american sentiment news? we have been hated long before Iraq. We are hated because we allies with Isreal. Call me an old fashioned right winged cowboy, i dont care. but think what side would you rather be on the right or the wrong? thats what i thought. Don't you see how pussified this country has become?

faggots are fighting for their right to marry, what kind of **** is that? there was a time when these people were taken in the back and shot, its not a disease it is a choice. and since when do we care what other countries thought of what we do? the leaders of those countries are all using the same concept, make money.

Now i can see why poor people support liberalism/communism, yeah it'll cut out the middle class and make everyone around them poor, wait thats not a good thing. In this country the way it is there is room for advancement. Everyone one of you are being turned into robots, controlled by the tv. The tv is controlled by the liberal media which will spare nothing to keep you on it's side. You never hear about the good things that happen because of Bush because you have a news source that hates him with a passion, why because he has conservative values. What are those? u might ask, well those are those tiny things your parents vaguely remember before they began to stop listening to their parents. and we wonder why there is so much violence and murder and drunk driving in this country.

It's because the men aren't being men anymore. Running from their problems instead of fighting. Now kids are learning that if they join gangs they become men. WHAT KIND OF **** IS THAT? some guy picks on you, doesnt matter if he is smaller than you, you gotta have him jumped instead of being a man and getting your ass kicked. Taking it on the chin hurts too much, i gotta get my gun.

Feminism was one of the worst things that has happened to this country. Now im not saying women shouldnt have rights, im saying that by killing the home maker and giving her a choice you leave the child to be raised by the television or some day care center. that doesnt sound bad does it? well what happens when your child doesnt listen to you anymore, the child feels neglected, the child resorts to drugs to kill their problems, or drinks to drown their problems instead of facing them.

The new movie with the blonde whore from 8mile is such bullshit. yeah instead of confronting my boyfriend lets go behind his back and be "clever" teehee. < what was she scared she might break up with him because of a question? sounds like a great relationship doesnt it. trust, love, and faith arent things that define marriage, those things are only in the movies. those things arent virtues they are bullshit. oh wait is that why the divorce rate has gone up so much???

Clinton was the third worst president we have ever had, wait he did great with the economy? Hell no, he jacked up the taxes and used multi-billion dollar bombs on some walmart tents. That is some strategy isnt it? He sold military secrets to the chinese and now they have rockets? WOW, i am soo surprised.

Ok JFK was elected by the teamsters and assassinated when his brother started using government power to slaughter many important families. But before he died he decided to do some serious damage. This democrat got us into the vietnam war. Then his dumb ass VP kept us there slaughtering our troops. Bush is the warmonger? i dont think so. Instead of going in there full force he chose not to shock and awe. He sent inexpierienced troops into asia, and the most commonly known fact before you idiots starting drinking your polluted water, was never get in a land war in asia. Then when Nixon got in there and made him look like a fool, by asking congress to let him bomb the hell outta that country, they said no so he did the logical thing. Pull out our troops. This was only because we werent making enough body bags for the bodies.

Right now we're winning, Saddam has been captured, Iraqi gangs are killing off the old regime. It is not the same thing, there is no comparison between the iraq war and the vietnam war.

Does your hero support Kerry? does he/she also support NAMBLA? cuz they are on the same team. maybe your hero isnt as smart as you thought, try thinking for yourself.

If you are offended by any or all of these statements i got some words for you, quit being a hoe. DEAL WITH IT, I AM RIGHT.

MODS I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CUSSING, IT HELPS TO EXPRESS MY FEELINGS AND HOW MESSED UP IT REALLY IS. DONT DELETE THIS JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE THIS IS THE DEBATE SECTION.

Quote of my life:"Stand up for what is right, even if you are standing alone."
 
 
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sikdragon
post Sep 12 2004, 11:54 PM
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[quote]Who says the Bible's standard is neutral? You are simply invokign your moral stances -- which are NOT natural or universal, as can be clearly seen by teh fact that other people do not hold them.

For something to be natural, it must apply to ALL people.

ALL people can have babies if their anatomy is correct and have certain forms of sexual intercourse -- however not ALL people believe in the Bible.[/quote]
They dont have to believe in it, the bible exists therefore it applies to all people because it is the highest authority on everything aside from God himself. Regardless of belief. Aren't you the one that said reality is independant from perception?

[quote]No it does not make it lawful.

If a robber breaks into your house and holds you hostage with a gun, he has MIGHT -- however, he does not have LAW. Similarly, if an illegitiamte (tyrannical) government decrees something -- it is not an effective law. It is a decree, just as the decree "give me your money" a robber would give you at gunpoint.

A law is something that everyone ought to obey equally. This does not happen in most governments.[/quote]

Dude you need to come up with some better examples, The robber has might but not more might than the government so he is commiting an illegal act. That government cannot issue an effective law unless that government is not contested in any way.



[quote]I do not desire "peace" in the Middle East -- I desire for US to get out of the Middle East. Israel and Palestine can blow each other up all they want -- as long as none of the bombs are hitting New York City.[/quote]

So your attitude is, if it doesn't affect me it is none of my business?

[quote]No, you only have a right to fight against people who have hurt you or are in the process of hurting you. Otherwise, you are committing aggression.[/quote]

Same as before. its not aggression if you stop the violence.

[quote]I would call the police. What if the person getting the sh*t beat out of him robbed the other guy first? What if that person killed hte other guy's family members? You don't know things like this. It is better not to get involved unless you have an interest in that party. IT is an especially good idea not to get involved if the person getting the sh*t beat out of him has a track record for robbing and pludering other people's houses and then attacking people who try to rescue him.[/quote]

So you have the guy with the bat arrested for beating up a guy that robbed him, yeah real nice.


[quote]Yes they do... Any site will say that. TWO different dates are given for Jesus's birth. THREE different people are listed as fathers of St. Joseph.[/quote]

buddy, those are sites not the real thing. anyone can put anything they want on the internet regardless of validity.


[quote]There was only one place Israel COULD attack... an easily defended 15-mile-wide strip of desert.[/quote]

So how the hell would it be a surprise?


[quote]So God does not have to follow his own laws.

Well, a governing authority that does not follow its own laws is usually called a Dictatorship. It is similiar to the Robber scenario I brought up before.[/quote]

Those aren't God's laws those are man made laws. He made physics and can change his creation.


[quote]British troops were IN our country, TAXING our citizens.

Do you see Iraqi tax collectors here?

If you are talking about the War of 1812, the British were inciting Indians along our fronteir to attack our towns. Iraq NEVER attacked us.[/quote]


Because we stopped Iraq before they could.


[quote]Saddam was one guy...[/quote]

Saddam was sadistic and had plans to attack the US. When you ask someone to do something for twelve years with threats and then dont hold up your end you look like you're just talkin sh*t. We weren't.


[quote]Unsubstantiated claim. We have found NO evidence of WMDs. Furthermore, Syria closed off the border with Iraq at the beginning of the war... the WMDs would not have been able to escape. Plus, we had 24-7 sattelite surveillance of ALL of Iraq. If the WMDs moved, we'd know about it.[/quote]


Hey, Iraq tested WMD's on the Kurds. The convoys left before we officially started operation bomb the hell outta your country.



[quote]"Republicans" are anything from Ron Paul to John McCain to Orrin Hatch. How can they ALL support your interests and the interests of America? Republicans have voted both FOR and AGAINST the War in Iraq. They have voted both FOR and AGAINST the PATRIOT Act. All Republicans are different.[/quote]


The party itself not the people in the party, the goals of the republican party are stumbling blocks in the path of the socialist party so they are good and support the interests of our country.


[quote]There would be the law keeping the President's fingers off the Nuke button.

There's a difference between BELIEVING IN GOD as a personal thing -- and being a religious nut, where you want to IMPOSE your beliefs on others. That is what people like Osama Bin Laden try to do. [/quote]


Law wouldnt keep the fingers off the buttons, laws are made by wars and fear of war.

Im still not gettin the religious nut thing.
 

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sikdragon   anti-american sentimen   Aug 11 2004, 10:33 PM
sikdragon   i am not closed minded but i have yet to hear an a...   Aug 11 2004, 10:34 PM
Spirited Away   I would have voted better if you had included ...   Aug 11 2004, 11:24 PM
sikdragon   its not all about the poll read what i wrote   Aug 11 2004, 11:31 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 11 2004, 11:31 PM)its n...   Aug 11 2004, 11:47 PM
sikdragon   men being men would be a good example, waiting unt...   Aug 12 2004, 02:00 AM
highly_evolved   im american and embarrased. i mean who WOULDNT att...   Aug 12 2004, 07:38 AM
sikdragon   im sensing some sarcasm, but anyone but bush, beca...   Aug 12 2004, 12:31 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 12 2004, 2:00 AM)you ar...   Aug 12 2004, 01:03 PM
sikdragon   ur right but if men would be men and not leave the...   Aug 12 2004, 02:04 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 12 2004, 2:04 PM)and if...   Aug 12 2004, 02:45 PM
highly_evolved   i saw 8 mile. i think it is a very good view on ou...   Aug 12 2004, 07:07 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTEconservative to run for president. but i thin...   Aug 12 2004, 08:50 PM
sikdragon   the constitution was written as guidelines for our...   Aug 14 2004, 06:27 AM
highly_evolved   ^ lol ur smart i like how u think   Aug 14 2004, 07:30 AM
sikdragon   thank-you, while i disagree about what you say, i ...   Aug 14 2004, 07:31 AM
highly_evolved   and same to you, someone who respects someone eles...   Aug 14 2004, 07:47 AM
sikdragon   i wouldnt mind if u changed urs, bush needs all th...   Aug 14 2004, 07:49 AM
highly_evolved   haha well i dont think he needs a majority of the ...   Aug 14 2004, 07:53 AM
sikdragon   oh dont you even try it, gore tried to rig the ele...   Aug 14 2004, 08:31 AM
highly_evolved   hah! i saw a movie were that happened! can...   Aug 14 2004, 08:45 AM
sikdragon   must have been a c movie, but it happened in tommy...   Aug 14 2004, 06:59 PM
sporadic   I like america, there are some damn good things ab...   Aug 14 2004, 07:05 PM
ComradeRed   Let's see: - Israel is the only government i...   Aug 14 2004, 09:57 PM
sikdragon   ur right welfare should be cut, it has been cut dr...   Aug 15 2004, 01:03 AM
ComradeRed   The Soviets invented ICBMs first. During the Col...   Aug 15 2004, 08:11 AM
sikdragon   QUOTEWhat is there to rebel against if your parent...   Aug 18 2004, 06:29 AM
sikdragon   the sad thing is the only one of you that at my le...   Aug 18 2004, 01:58 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 1:58 PM)the sa...   Aug 18 2004, 02:37 PM
ComradeRed   If they "rebel" against teachers or ba...   Aug 18 2004, 03:59 PM
sikdragon   in most cases they wouldnt run into those kind o...   Sep 1 2004, 01:29 PM
ComradeRed   That's three parents, isn't it? No, t...   Sep 1 2004, 01:45 PM
gerundio   fudge REDNECKS. fudge THE NRA. fudge RACISTS. fudg...   Sep 1 2004, 03:15 PM
sikdragon   fudge people who label people. its people like you...   Sep 3 2004, 09:48 PM
sweetdreamsx3   There's nothing wrong with our country except ...   Sep 3 2004, 09:56 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 3 2004, 9:48 PM)fudge p...   Sep 3 2004, 10:18 PM
sikdragon   im not tryin to act tough, im just saying instigat...   Sep 4 2004, 07:04 AM
Heathasm   QUOTEits not a disease it is a choice daresay tha...   Sep 4 2004, 08:46 AM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 4 2004, 7:04 AM)im not ...   Sep 4 2004, 12:07 PM
barelyy_coherent   I actually chose "yes I believe everything Am...   Sep 6 2004, 05:51 PM
sikdragon   embarassed? no. I am not stuck in the middle ages....   Sep 7 2004, 09:29 AM
ComradeRed   No country on Earth has the physical capability ...   Sep 7 2004, 03:25 PM
cornflakes   An American here, and I hate it. America is now a ...   Sep 7 2004, 06:42 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(cornflakes @ Sep 7 2004, 6:42 PM)An Ame...   Sep 7 2004, 07:06 PM
cornflakes   I know politics darling. I don't kiss Bush...   Sep 7 2004, 07:48 PM
cornflakes   oops double post.   Sep 7 2004, 07:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(cornflakes @ Sep 7 2004, 7:48 PM)I know...   Sep 7 2004, 08:01 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(cornflakes @ Sep 7 2004, 6:42 PM)An Ame...   Sep 7 2004, 08:11 PM
sikdragon   Number one, I wasn't talking to you with tha...   Sep 8 2004, 09:23 AM
ComradeRed   But since all reality is perception, oceans don...   Sep 8 2004, 02:54 PM
sikdragon   Oceans dont exist??? people percieve them all th...   Sep 9 2004, 12:19 AM
jarnifer   what do you mean canadians aren't people???   Sep 9 2004, 03:49 AM
ComradeRed   Riiiiiiight..... Who says the Bible's sta...   Sep 9 2004, 02:37 PM
sikdragon   They dont have to believe in it, the bible exists...   Sep 12 2004, 11:54 PM
ComradeRed   The Koran also exists ... does that make it the ...   Sep 13 2004, 03:29 PM
sikdragon   The Koran is flawed by its several contradiction...   Sep 16 2004, 12:52 AM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 16 2004, 12:52 AM)The B...   Sep 16 2004, 08:32 PM
sikdragon   What is the tooth fairy? I have a general idea but...   Sep 17 2004, 12:22 AM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 17 2004, 12:22 AM)What ...   Sep 18 2004, 08:48 PM
sikdragon   If you must deny God's existence to justify yo...   Sep 19 2004, 01:21 AM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 19 2004, 1:21 AM)Im not...   Sep 19 2004, 11:19 AM
sikdragon   how can you believe in God but not the bible? They...   Sep 19 2004, 12:39 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 19 2004, 12:39 PM)how c...   Sep 19 2004, 02:51 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 19 2004, 1:21 AM)If you...   Sep 19 2004, 08:35 PM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 8 2004, 9:19 PM)And as ...   Sep 20 2004, 07:12 PM
Rachel is love   a. your right i do think your a old fashioned righ...   Sep 21 2004, 12:27 AM
sikdragon   QUOTEHow dumb can you be? You're saying that G...   Sep 21 2004, 06:02 AM
gerundio   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 21 2004, 6:02 AM)i can ...   Sep 21 2004, 07:38 PM
karrar   silk dragon dont yap your mouth about the qur...   Sep 21 2004, 07:45 PM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 21 2004, 3:02 AM)Damn y...   Sep 22 2004, 01:34 AM
jarnifer   just curious, did sikdragon name himself "deb...   Sep 26 2004, 11:22 AM
sikdragon   do you want to contest it? Until someone can I wil...   Sep 26 2004, 12:31 PM
barelyy_coherent   sikdragon replies a lot. It doesn't mean that ...   Sep 27 2004, 12:05 AM
sikdragon   what do you mean i dont have the best reasoning? J...   Sep 27 2004, 05:36 AM
tofumonzter   no polling please. give evidence and prove your po...   Sep 27 2004, 07:56 PM
barelyy_coherent   Whoooaaa sorry I didn't mean it that way BUT.....   Sep 27 2004, 10:45 PM
sikdragon   polling?   Sep 28 2004, 05:40 AM
jarnifer   so he named himself as the debate section owner? i...   Sep 30 2004, 06:00 AM
barelyy_coherent   LOL. Yes he did. Kind of sad actually. It would be...   Oct 3 2004, 02:35 AM
strice   Whats wrong with our country is that we don't ...   Oct 3 2004, 02:50 AM


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