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ppl_love_me
post Aug 30 2004, 08:13 PM
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You must look at, if not read, the book called "Evolution of the Creationist" to realy argue.

The man that wrote the book was an evolutionist, untill a scholar in the colledge he was teaching at asked him to look at the topic of creation. And the research he did (originaly to prove evolution) actually only gave more evedence of creation, and he found much more!

I think the school systems are actually affending religions. In the book He points out that being an evolutionist is haveing a religion, so they are teaching blasfamy. (can't spell sry)

Also, I think scientist can only prove god exsists or he doesn't. And alot of science is ageinst the laws of god and many other religions. like the genetic experimentation on making clones, it is like trying to be god, and prove that humans can function with out him.

If you dissagree with creation. then thorouly explain to me how the parent cell came to being? and How would an animal like the Incubator Bird (look it up ppl!) evolve? and tell me some documented FACTS that has been found.

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post Sep 12 2004, 03:32 PM
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I am pissed because you insulted me.

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Help one another? Hahaha, I would like to see you help me when you and your own children are famished. I would like to see these disciples to give their worldly wealth to help others.


Thats is the worst thing I've ever heard, you need to open your eyes. I have seen what pain and suffering there is in the world. I went on a Mexico Mission trip to a place where children play on deadly chemical infested dirt barefoot. Moms are only 14, and babys play pins were cardboad boxes. They ate their pets, and barely have any clothes that fit. They have no desent hospital, the only one there over charges, they don't have anything but a box, and some have a one room house with no air. I helped them, and loved them. Yes, if you are perishing you can't always help, but there is always a way to help some one else without money. JUST CARE!! A smile, a careing thought, an open consern. thats helping. make someones day by careing. I dedicate MY life to help others, ask my friends, I hate being selfish. I hate those people.

I never said ALL people will help. Some people are dumb and selfish, but if you put aside all the bad things, you might find there is a lot of good in the world. I know a whole church of 2000 people who help others, and 300 of them are YOUTH! Including me.

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In many cases their children died so they lost the will to live. They lacked food and water and HAD TO EAT HUMAN FLESH and DRINK HUMAN BLOOD to live. Bet your sheltered life didn't expose you to those kinds of horrors, but I'm about to tell you all about it so don't worry... Young women had to disguise as males for fear of being raped by pirates. What? Are you surprise to hear that pirates still exist in this mordern era? Don't be. Roughly 2 to 3 decades ago, they still ruled some seas (and they still roam today), including the ones that the boat people sailed in. I had personally talked to several survivors about their stories and learned of the ones that didn't make it. I knew and talked at least one LIVING ex-privateer.


Ya I know pirates still exsist. I know a lot of things. I very deeply study the houlocaust (srry 4 spelling) and things like that. We do learn about that in sunday school. in fact, we had the topic of why there is suffering in the world. wana know what the answer was?

We suffer so we will know the difference of good and bad. and to learn to help one another. If there was no suffering, then we would not care to go to God, its sad, but in times when we are happy we don't think of God, butwhen there are bad times then we look for help. In some cases that would be God. We would not need God if everything was perfact.

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It makes me wonder if I have to explain the meaning of free will one more time. Explain to me what you understand free will to be, then we'll talk again. Oh, and instead of sitting in Sunday School, skip it for one day and talk to survivors and people who literally went to Hell and back; listen to stories about the lives that were lost... And read from more than one perspective of how things really happened rather than just hear the children's book endings.


I know many survivors. I studied veitnam War, and the world wars. I hate children book endings. I am a dedicated reader, and writer. I love Edgar's storys when the bad guy gets away with it. Have you ever read the bible? You have no Idea how much suffering people go threw. I don't know either. You want to know who truly knows suffering? God. He watches the deaths, the pain, and the rejection. He knows pain, not us, we can't. We are not like him, watching the world go threw war, for all eternity.
 

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ppl_love_me   Proof   Aug 30 2004, 08:13 PM
ComradeRed   http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...solat...   Aug 30 2004, 09:12 PM
Devastation   reading some excerpts of the book, and it seems so...   Aug 30 2004, 09:17 PM
ppl_love_me   I'm sorry, I spelled the name wrong. It is an ...   Aug 31 2004, 08:08 AM
ComradeRed   Of course you can't prove evolution, but you c...   Aug 31 2004, 09:03 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Aug 31 2004, 8:08 AM)Now,...   Aug 31 2004, 12:09 PM
raw_material   proof!! read the bible thats proof! ...   Aug 31 2004, 04:58 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 31 2004, 4:58 PM)pro...   Aug 31 2004, 05:18 PM
raw_material   ha!! i had a fealing that u where the one ...   Aug 31 2004, 05:29 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 31 2004, 4:58 PM)pro...   Aug 31 2004, 08:18 PM
Devastation   scientific reasoning seriously needs to be double ...   Aug 31 2004, 08:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Devastation @ Aug 31 2004, 8:21 PM)scie...   Aug 31 2004, 08:45 PM
ppl_love_me   The guy IS a christian. and yes I know there many ...   Aug 31 2004, 08:49 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Aug 31 2004, 8:49 PM)I am...   Aug 31 2004, 08:59 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTESecondly, please refrain from making the comm...   Sep 1 2004, 08:25 AM
sikdragon   cloning isnt like trying to be God, it is still ju...   Sep 1 2004, 08:35 AM
raw_material   "If god created us to beleive in him with our...   Sep 1 2004, 12:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 1 2004, 8:25 AM)I nev...   Sep 1 2004, 05:12 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTENo, YOU think about this, if the whole world ...   Sep 1 2004, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 1 2004, 6:00 PM)All w...   Sep 1 2004, 07:25 PM
ReBeL_BlOoD   As far as the bible goes, guess what the number on...   Sep 1 2004, 11:49 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ReBeL_BlOoD @ Sep 1 2004, 11:49 PM)*God...   Sep 1 2004, 11:53 PM
raw_material   "God also has never flooded the earth after N...   Sep 2 2004, 06:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(raw_material @ Sep 2 2004, 6:21 PM)...   Sep 2 2004, 06:56 PM
synkro   QUOTEBut think about this. If god created us to be...   Sep 2 2004, 07:05 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTE(synkro @ Sep 2 2004, 7:05 PM)we live to...   Sep 3 2004, 08:06 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 3 2004, 8:06 PM)Don...   Sep 3 2004, 09:16 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTENature provides for lilies. He doesn't wa...   Sep 4 2004, 07:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 4 2004, 7:59 PM)We mi...   Sep 4 2004, 09:07 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTEHmm, I wouldn't ever consider myself fool...   Sep 5 2004, 01:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 5 2004, 1:12 PM)I don...   Sep 6 2004, 04:07 PM
ppl_love_me   Yes, but remember, he can't go ageinst his own...   Sep 6 2004, 05:10 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 6 2004, 5:10 PM)Yes, ...   Sep 6 2004, 06:23 PM
sikdragon   Nobody argued with what i said. Does that mean i a...   Sep 9 2004, 12:57 AM
Spirited Away   Said about what? I will say something against, ju...   Sep 9 2004, 01:15 AM
ppl_love_me   QUOTE< lost. Just a statement ok I'm sti...   Sep 9 2004, 08:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 9 2004, 8:53 PM)Just ...   Sep 9 2004, 11:20 PM
sikdragon   QUOTEcloning isnt like trying to be God, it is sti...   Sep 10 2004, 02:09 AM
ppl_love_me   I am pissed because you insulted me. QUOTEHelp o...   Sep 12 2004, 03:32 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 12 2004, 3:32 PM)I am...   Sep 12 2004, 10:39 PM


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