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anti-american sentimen, and whats wrong with our country |
Aug 11 2004, 10:33 PM
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I am an American and i am proud. Now why the hell is anti-american sentiment news? we have been hated long before Iraq. We are hated because we allies with Isreal. Call me an old fashioned right winged cowboy, i dont care. but think what side would you rather be on the right or the wrong? thats what i thought. Don't you see how pussified this country has become?
faggots are fighting for their right to marry, what kind of **** is that? there was a time when these people were taken in the back and shot, its not a disease it is a choice. and since when do we care what other countries thought of what we do? the leaders of those countries are all using the same concept, make money. Now i can see why poor people support liberalism/communism, yeah it'll cut out the middle class and make everyone around them poor, wait thats not a good thing. In this country the way it is there is room for advancement. Everyone one of you are being turned into robots, controlled by the tv. The tv is controlled by the liberal media which will spare nothing to keep you on it's side. You never hear about the good things that happen because of Bush because you have a news source that hates him with a passion, why because he has conservative values. What are those? u might ask, well those are those tiny things your parents vaguely remember before they began to stop listening to their parents. and we wonder why there is so much violence and murder and drunk driving in this country. It's because the men aren't being men anymore. Running from their problems instead of fighting. Now kids are learning that if they join gangs they become men. WHAT KIND OF **** IS THAT? some guy picks on you, doesnt matter if he is smaller than you, you gotta have him jumped instead of being a man and getting your ass kicked. Taking it on the chin hurts too much, i gotta get my gun. Feminism was one of the worst things that has happened to this country. Now im not saying women shouldnt have rights, im saying that by killing the home maker and giving her a choice you leave the child to be raised by the television or some day care center. that doesnt sound bad does it? well what happens when your child doesnt listen to you anymore, the child feels neglected, the child resorts to drugs to kill their problems, or drinks to drown their problems instead of facing them. The new movie with the blonde whore from 8mile is such bullshit. yeah instead of confronting my boyfriend lets go behind his back and be "clever" teehee. < what was she scared she might break up with him because of a question? sounds like a great relationship doesnt it. trust, love, and faith arent things that define marriage, those things are only in the movies. those things arent virtues they are bullshit. oh wait is that why the divorce rate has gone up so much??? Clinton was the third worst president we have ever had, wait he did great with the economy? Hell no, he jacked up the taxes and used multi-billion dollar bombs on some walmart tents. That is some strategy isnt it? He sold military secrets to the chinese and now they have rockets? WOW, i am soo surprised. Ok JFK was elected by the teamsters and assassinated when his brother started using government power to slaughter many important families. But before he died he decided to do some serious damage. This democrat got us into the vietnam war. Then his dumb ass VP kept us there slaughtering our troops. Bush is the warmonger? i dont think so. Instead of going in there full force he chose not to shock and awe. He sent inexpierienced troops into asia, and the most commonly known fact before you idiots starting drinking your polluted water, was never get in a land war in asia. Then when Nixon got in there and made him look like a fool, by asking congress to let him bomb the hell outta that country, they said no so he did the logical thing. Pull out our troops. This was only because we werent making enough body bags for the bodies. Right now we're winning, Saddam has been captured, Iraqi gangs are killing off the old regime. It is not the same thing, there is no comparison between the iraq war and the vietnam war. Does your hero support Kerry? does he/she also support NAMBLA? cuz they are on the same team. maybe your hero isnt as smart as you thought, try thinking for yourself. If you are offended by any or all of these statements i got some words for you, quit being a hoe. DEAL WITH IT, I AM RIGHT. MODS I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CUSSING, IT HELPS TO EXPRESS MY FEELINGS AND HOW MESSED UP IT REALLY IS. DONT DELETE THIS JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE THIS IS THE DEBATE SECTION. Quote of my life:"Stand up for what is right, even if you are standing alone." |
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Sep 9 2004, 12:19 AM
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[quote]But since all reality is perception, oceans don't really exist. In fact, we are being invaded by Canadians right now -- you just don't see it.
[/quote] Oceans dont exist??? people percieve them all the time through all of their senses. And as for the canadian invasion, canadians aren't people. [quote]Perverse is anything that is unnatural, right? The natural purpose of sex is to have children. Therefore, ANY sexual lifestyle that has a purpose other than having children is perverse. Monogamy is technically a perverse sexual relationship -- since it is not necessary for the purpose of having children. So is celibacy. The only non-perverse sexual relationship is trying to have as much sex to produce as many children as possible.[/quote] lol... that is where morality comes in.. when survival is no longer an issue it changes. Perverse is deviating from what is known morally right or good. Thus far what is right and good by the bible's standard is natural, not the naturally occuring things mind you. [quote]You are making generalizations -- a lot of adults don't even have the mental capability to choose to have sex, but a lot of 15 year olds do.[/quote] 15 year olds are still under the jurisdiction and ownership of their parents. Child labor and other laws prevent minors from getting good jobs and entering into legal contracts without the consent of a parent or gaurdian. [quote]So whoever has teh most guns is right? Then you have no right to complain about terrorist attacks against Israel. If Arafat gets nuclear weapons and blows Tel Aviv into glass, then he would be perfectly justified according to yo -- after all, power is law. In fact, if you argue that might makes right, it's hard to say that anyone has rights or entitlements at all -- which means that the fundamental basis of the law doesn't exist. If the ends justify the means, then law does not exist. (since the law addresses means, not ends). In that case, power is NOT law -- there IS no law. You have anarchy --> which is bad because it leads to chaos and warfare. The ONLY way we will ever get peace in Israel/Palestine is if the two sides get together and draft a common set of laws that derives from legitimacy, not power. BUT we must allow them to set their own course -- it's not our fight. [/quote] Might doesn't make right. It makes it lawful. There is a difference. The government can govern us with their laws because we lack the will and power to overthrow the government. Ends does not justify the means. We must differ on this subject. I do not believe in peace in the middle east. When the peace maker comes who can settle the Israeli/Palestinian differences the "peace" will only last for seven years. Then all hell will break loose, literally. It is every persons right to fight against the palestinians. If someone was beating the sh!t out of some guy on the street with a baseball bat and you had a gun tucked in the back of your pants, what would you do? Just watch as he gets beaten to death or turn your head? That is your suggestion here. [quote]There is only ONE reality. People have different TAKES on it (i.e. perceptions), thus people SEE reality differently, but there is only ONE objective reality, which is what holds people together. It's why we percieve the same things.[/quote] Do you know this for a fact? Do you know that my definition of blue is not your definition of red? Your parents could see orange when you point out green. They would never know and niether would you. When a girl sees red could a man see pink? [quote]But that was STILL A TAX! A tax by any other name is still a tax. You're arguing semantics. [/quote] you were trying to prove the Bible fallacious due to this so called "contradiction" which in fact does not exist cover to cover. All 40 writers never contradict each other over hundreds of years. amazing. [quote]Yes, I believe you are referring to Romans 13... which is another HUGE contradiction... if everyone is supposed to follow the laws of the land, why didn't Jesus worship Zeus? Why did the Jews complain about their slavery? Etc.[/quote] The law is to be upheld until it makes you choose between God and the law. You must choose God if you are to do right by him. The Jews have fallen from the grace of God numerous times. [quote]It WAS a surprise attack ... that's why it ended so quickly. Egypt's defense line was over 100 miles inland. If they knew about the attack, they would've defended closer to the border. [/quote] Just because they did not know where the Israelis would attack doesn't mean they didn't know an attack was going to happen. [quote]"If it is God's will, it will happen" is a true statement. Of course, it was not God's will so the point is moot. If you argue that God's will takes precedence over the laws of physics, then in fact there is no point in arguing -- since everything is already determined.[/quote] Amen. God created physics and can bend their laws. [quote]Nope. We DONT NEED ALLIES. But we also shouldn't let our people die to kill other people. We should follow the advice of the Founding Fathers: Friendship and peace, and honest trade with all nations, entangling alliances with none.[/quote] That would be great wouldn't it? Those same founding fathers fought wars against the British. Just because Iraq wasn't invading doesn't mean the safety of America's citizens was not in danger. [quote]By that logic, North Korea is a superpower.[/quote] ok is that a problem? [quote]So is Russia's government. Terrorists will have a much easier time getting nukes from Russia than from North Korea. Putin doesn't even KNOW where all his nukes are, because he has so many of them.[/quote] Putin is one leader and can be handled more easily rather than a counsel of a hundred or so princes all with different opinions. [quote]Iraq was not harboring terrorists, but they were still a threat! What the hell? WE MADE THEM A THREAT. Even in 1991, they were a threat to Saudi Arabia, not us. EVERY major terrorist attack against the US since 1989 was carried out by Saudis. Why? Because all our troops in the Mid East were in Saudi Arabia. The next wave of terrorist attacks will be coming from Iraqis.[/quote] Iraq was still a threat because they have WMD's. Now they are wherever the convoys that left Baghdad parked in Syria. [quote]That's completely false. The father of modern conservatism was a man by the name of Barry Goldwater. A lot of people said about him the same things you say about libaerls now -- that he increasd support for the Republican Party, thus empowering the "me-too" conservatives (people like Dubya). Eventually, Goldwater won the Republican nomination, defeating the popular Rockefeller. When he was campaigning in California, he had so many volutneers, he created volunteers to tell other volunteers what to do. Goldwater took back the Republican Party. Now if Goldwater followed your logic and thought "well the Republicans are doomed anyway, so I better support the Democrats", then the Republican Party of today would be worshipping Benito Mussolini (in many ways, it is, but it'd be doing that even more so). The same way, the Democratic Party is redeemable today, as is the Republican Party. But for that to happen, there needs to be a Liberal revolution against the Socailists -- just like there needs to be a Libertarian (liberal) revolution against Religious Nuts and Neoconservatives in the Republican Party (there are probably more 'liberals' in the classic sense of the word in the Republican Party than the Democratic Party). That's the only way things are going to change. [/quote] That does not support my logic and thought. I support republicans because they are for my interests and the interests of america regardless of those naysayers who do not know what they want. As for the revolution against religious nuts well I, my good sir, will have to oppose. Religious nuts are what make this world interesting.Without God life would suck. There would be no point in anyone surviving. There wouldn't be anyone keeping the presidents fingers off the nuke button. |
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sikdragon anti-american sentimen Aug 11 2004, 10:33 PM
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ComradeRed
Let's see:
- Israel is the only government i... Aug 14 2004, 09:57 PM
sikdragon ur right welfare should be cut, it has been cut dr... Aug 15 2004, 01:03 AM
ComradeRed
The Soviets invented ICBMs first. During the Col... Aug 15 2004, 08:11 AM
sikdragon QUOTEWhat is there to rebel against if your parent... Aug 18 2004, 06:29 AM
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ComradeRed
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sikdragon
in most cases they wouldnt run into those kind o... Sep 1 2004, 01:29 PM
ComradeRed
That's three parents, isn't it?
No, t... Sep 1 2004, 01:45 PM
gerundio fudge REDNECKS. fudge THE NRA. fudge RACISTS. fudg... Sep 1 2004, 03:15 PM
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sweetdreamsx3 There's nothing wrong with our country except ... Sep 3 2004, 09:56 PM
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sikdragon im not tryin to act tough, im just saying instigat... Sep 4 2004, 07:04 AM
Heathasm QUOTEits not a disease it is a choice
daresay tha... Sep 4 2004, 08:46 AM
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sikdragon embarassed? no. I am not stuck in the middle ages.... Sep 7 2004, 09:29 AM
ComradeRed
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sikdragon
Number one, I wasn't talking to you with tha... Sep 8 2004, 09:23 AM
ComradeRed
But since all reality is perception, oceans don... Sep 8 2004, 02:54 PM
jarnifer what do you mean canadians aren't people??? Sep 9 2004, 03:49 AM
ComradeRed
Riiiiiiight.....
Who says the Bible's sta... Sep 9 2004, 02:37 PM
sikdragon
They dont have to believe in it, the bible exists... Sep 12 2004, 11:54 PM
ComradeRed
The Koran also exists ... does that make it the ... Sep 13 2004, 03:29 PM
sikdragon
The Koran is flawed by its several contradiction... Sep 16 2004, 12:52 AM
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