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the government is behind things, lol my friend thinks so
do you think that the government is behind actions that we do?
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imafreakinazn
post Aug 15 2004, 11:49 PM
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lol. i juss wanted to know. my friend thinks that the government is like evil or something and wants to rule us like a tyrant or something. it's actually kinda funny
 
 
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jo3
post Sep 8 2004, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed)
The government forces you to give them 47% of your income, making it the world's biggest bank robber, and and its regulations (especially the FDA and DEA) are estimated to lead to over two hundred thousand deaths a year. Secret police organizations like the FBI and the DEA basically have a license to kill without penalty (and where they did kill innocent people, such as at WACO and Ruby Ridge), the agents involved were actually promoted. The government routinely throws people in jail without telling them what they did wrong (which is the same as if I were to kidnap you and keep you in my basement).

biggest bank robber? i think we're privileged to live in such a great nation. 47% is indeed alot, but not everyone pays that much. also, it's not like the US doesn't do things for us in return

killing innocent people in Waco? the Davidians locked themselves in a school with military weapons, not street legal weapons. they had kids in there too. what would you do if that happened? and i don't think they purposely lit the school on fire. im pretty sure it was unintentional

QUOTE(ComradeRed)
The government DOES make you do a lot of things: Pay taxes, join the army during war, get a permit to work on your house, get permission to get a job, etc. We have great lives -- but they would be so much better if we had more freedom, and twice as much money.

realize that 75% of the world is not as educated as you are, and with more freedom and money, they wouldn't really spend/use it in good ways.

QUOTE(ComradeRed)
If a government imposes direct taxes to fund things that are against the Constitution (which is most of what it does -- please find social security, welfare, etc. in the Constitution, while the Tenth Amendment clearly says things that the COnstitution doesn't explicity mention go to the States) is a form of unlawful government, which is actually bordering on anarchy.

you gotta put these things in context. these programs were all made during depressions. these programs helped out millions of citizens. the US can't just suddenly decide to quit funding those programs. yes, it will eventually disappear, but it will gradually, not suddenly.

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In addition, permits ought only to apply TO PUBLIC SPACE -- i.e., you need a permit to drive on a state-owned road (which is most of the roads). However, you should NOT need a permit to do things to your own property -- like you should not need a permit to build a house on your own land, or fix your house, etc.

this is kinda extreme, but according to your reasoning, then i should be able to post up huge pictures of naked women outside of my house...because i own the land. the people around me can always turn around and not look at it..because it's my land and i shall do whatever i please.

like i said, its an extreme example, but it could happen.

QUOTE(ComradeRed)
There should be a uniform standard -- if the government should be allowed to hide the reasons for invading a country from me, I should be allowed to hide my Cayman Islands bank account from the government.

in a way, that's true. but it's all about defense. what would you be doing with a bank account in the Cayman Islands? buying bombs?

the US has to watch for that...cuz if they don't, and if something happens, they'll be blamed
 

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imafreakinazn   the government is behind things   Aug 15 2004, 11:49 PM
xjjajeengx   moving to debate.   Aug 15 2004, 11:58 PM
acidbreeze   yeah, they're hiding tons of info from us too   Aug 16 2004, 12:04 AM
LaRevolucion   Yes...hiding everything...the government is eeeeev...   Aug 16 2004, 01:10 AM
th5418   Yeah, the government is the reason I'm typing ...   Aug 16 2004, 01:20 AM
inlonelinessidie   I believe that the government does hide things for...   Aug 16 2004, 01:52 AM
CrackedRearView   Well that's been the case in every government ...   Aug 16 2004, 06:31 AM
ComradeRed   Of course the government is tyrannical. Since 1933...   Aug 16 2004, 08:33 AM
imafreakinazn   .....whoa. i didn't know you people would take...   Aug 16 2004, 11:55 AM
inlonelinessidie   ^^ Why wouldn't we?   Aug 16 2004, 01:26 PM
angel-roh   why do u think they are evil...what makes u think ...   Aug 17 2004, 11:04 PM
Mini   The government hides stuff, so true.   Aug 17 2004, 11:58 PM
sikdragon   have u ever seen we are in the army now, or whatev...   Aug 18 2004, 09:47 AM
ComradeRed   The government DOES make you do a lot of things: P...   Aug 18 2004, 12:59 PM
sikdragon   in the army now was explaining why some things sho...   Aug 18 2004, 01:01 PM
ComradeRed   Oh that scene, haha, but if they didn't know a...   Aug 18 2004, 01:27 PM
sikdragon   well i meant like the details, they couldve said i...   Aug 18 2004, 01:30 PM
ComradeRed   Um... would that have made a difference? "We...   Aug 18 2004, 01:40 PM
sikdragon   lol but the missile would have been destroyed i me...   Aug 18 2004, 01:45 PM
ComradeRed   No the assumption is very well founded. The Libyan...   Aug 18 2004, 03:33 PM
inlonelinessidie   LOL, first thing that comes to my mind in this top...   Aug 18 2004, 03:36 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 18 2004, 12:59 PM)The ...   Aug 26 2004, 10:25 AM
gerundio   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 26 2004, 10:25 AM)You...   Aug 26 2004, 10:29 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 26 2004, 10:25 AM)You...   Aug 26 2004, 01:43 PM
Retrogressive   The First thing to come to my mind is Orwell's...   Aug 26 2004, 04:44 PM
ComradeRed   Sooner or later, all tyrannies crumble. Those that...   Aug 26 2004, 05:58 PM
Stately Lover   YES. BUSH IS EVIL. HE IS A TYRANT!!...   Aug 26 2004, 06:41 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ Aug 26 2004, 2:44 PM)Th...   Aug 26 2004, 06:53 PM
juliar   They hide things. So do you. SO do celebrities. Th...   Aug 26 2004, 07:03 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(juliar @ Aug 26 2004, 7:03 PM)They hide...   Aug 26 2004, 08:02 PM
jo3   QUOTE(ComradeRed)The government forces you to give...   Sep 8 2004, 08:44 PM
C.Lime.Jello.   Of course the goverment is evil. Why do you think ...   Sep 8 2004, 10:12 PM
tsohg   haha i think thatys ridiculous   Sep 8 2004, 10:23 PM
sikdragon   subliminal messages in music videos on Gay MTV who...   Sep 9 2004, 12:50 AM
PinkTrash   Thats whack. They have nothing to hide, the worst ...   Sep 12 2004, 04:37 PM


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