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The empirical method
sikdragon
post Sep 7 2004, 09:34 AM
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I don't like the empirical method. why? because basically it says that everything humans can't explain doesn't exist. If that isn't closed minded then I don't know what is. By using the empirical method your mind does not exist. We all know that isn't true. Every living person has a mind regardless of it's health.
 
 
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ComradeRed
post Sep 8 2004, 02:57 PM
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Yes it does. The tree is an entity independent of people who hear the noise. Although you can't actually percieve it, the evidence suggests that it does make the noise. Therefore, it is a reasonable assumption.

Even if you argue that I can't prove the tree makes the sound, I don't have to. The argument you want me to check is: "IF a tree falls when no one is around, THEN it makes a noise." But if, as you argue, reality is perception, one cannot see if a tree falls in teh first place. Since no tree falls, the IF clause is false, therefore teh statement as a whole is true anyways.

People see different parts of reality, but in the end there is only one reality. If I throw a football in the air, I percieve it and so does everyone around me -- because it is what happened in reality.

If all reality were perception, then nobody would percieve me throwing it.
 

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sikdragon   The empirical method   Sep 7 2004, 09:34 AM
Spirited Away   Doesn't it just mean that humans must try hard...   Sep 7 2004, 02:30 PM
ComradeRed   The empirical method says that, to prove a theory,...   Sep 7 2004, 03:31 PM
sikdragon   Those who do in fact use the empirical method to d...   Sep 8 2004, 09:50 AM
ComradeRed   Then you can go live in your own little (percieved...   Sep 8 2004, 02:36 PM
sikdragon   really? It's like if a tree falls in the fores...   Sep 8 2004, 02:48 PM
ComradeRed   Yes it does. The tree is an entity independent of ...   Sep 8 2004, 02:57 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 8 2004, 9:50 AM)Those w...   Sep 8 2004, 05:03 PM
sikdragon   QUOTEYes it does. The tree is an entity independen...   Sep 8 2004, 11:40 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 8 2004, 11:40 PM)No, le...   Sep 8 2004, 11:48 PM
sikdragon   No im not saying emericists are closed minded. Nev...   Sep 9 2004, 12:33 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 9 2004, 12:33 AM)No im ...   Sep 9 2004, 01:09 AM
ComradeRed   Nobody has EVER used the Empirical Method to DISPR...   Sep 9 2004, 02:24 PM
Spirited Away   Ah, thanks for clearing that up!   Sep 9 2004, 05:06 PM
sikdragon   well this person named nobody may not have but the...   Sep 10 2004, 10:58 AM
ComradeRed   Where? IT can't be done.   Sep 10 2004, 05:13 PM
sikdragon   keyword TRY.   Sep 21 2004, 06:54 AM
ComradeRed   So? Just because some people misuse the empirical ...   Sep 25 2004, 09:10 PM
sikdragon   i said i didnt like it, i didnt say it was wrong.   Sep 26 2004, 04:54 AM


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