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anti-american sentimen, and whats wrong with our country |
Aug 11 2004, 10:33 PM
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I am an American and i am proud. Now why the hell is anti-american sentiment news? we have been hated long before Iraq. We are hated because we allies with Isreal. Call me an old fashioned right winged cowboy, i dont care. but think what side would you rather be on the right or the wrong? thats what i thought. Don't you see how pussified this country has become?
faggots are fighting for their right to marry, what kind of **** is that? there was a time when these people were taken in the back and shot, its not a disease it is a choice. and since when do we care what other countries thought of what we do? the leaders of those countries are all using the same concept, make money. Now i can see why poor people support liberalism/communism, yeah it'll cut out the middle class and make everyone around them poor, wait thats not a good thing. In this country the way it is there is room for advancement. Everyone one of you are being turned into robots, controlled by the tv. The tv is controlled by the liberal media which will spare nothing to keep you on it's side. You never hear about the good things that happen because of Bush because you have a news source that hates him with a passion, why because he has conservative values. What are those? u might ask, well those are those tiny things your parents vaguely remember before they began to stop listening to their parents. and we wonder why there is so much violence and murder and drunk driving in this country. It's because the men aren't being men anymore. Running from their problems instead of fighting. Now kids are learning that if they join gangs they become men. WHAT KIND OF **** IS THAT? some guy picks on you, doesnt matter if he is smaller than you, you gotta have him jumped instead of being a man and getting your ass kicked. Taking it on the chin hurts too much, i gotta get my gun. Feminism was one of the worst things that has happened to this country. Now im not saying women shouldnt have rights, im saying that by killing the home maker and giving her a choice you leave the child to be raised by the television or some day care center. that doesnt sound bad does it? well what happens when your child doesnt listen to you anymore, the child feels neglected, the child resorts to drugs to kill their problems, or drinks to drown their problems instead of facing them. The new movie with the blonde whore from 8mile is such bullshit. yeah instead of confronting my boyfriend lets go behind his back and be "clever" teehee. < what was she scared she might break up with him because of a question? sounds like a great relationship doesnt it. trust, love, and faith arent things that define marriage, those things are only in the movies. those things arent virtues they are bullshit. oh wait is that why the divorce rate has gone up so much??? Clinton was the third worst president we have ever had, wait he did great with the economy? Hell no, he jacked up the taxes and used multi-billion dollar bombs on some walmart tents. That is some strategy isnt it? He sold military secrets to the chinese and now they have rockets? WOW, i am soo surprised. Ok JFK was elected by the teamsters and assassinated when his brother started using government power to slaughter many important families. But before he died he decided to do some serious damage. This democrat got us into the vietnam war. Then his dumb ass VP kept us there slaughtering our troops. Bush is the warmonger? i dont think so. Instead of going in there full force he chose not to shock and awe. He sent inexpierienced troops into asia, and the most commonly known fact before you idiots starting drinking your polluted water, was never get in a land war in asia. Then when Nixon got in there and made him look like a fool, by asking congress to let him bomb the hell outta that country, they said no so he did the logical thing. Pull out our troops. This was only because we werent making enough body bags for the bodies. Right now we're winning, Saddam has been captured, Iraqi gangs are killing off the old regime. It is not the same thing, there is no comparison between the iraq war and the vietnam war. Does your hero support Kerry? does he/she also support NAMBLA? cuz they are on the same team. maybe your hero isnt as smart as you thought, try thinking for yourself. If you are offended by any or all of these statements i got some words for you, quit being a hoe. DEAL WITH IT, I AM RIGHT. MODS I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CUSSING, IT HELPS TO EXPRESS MY FEELINGS AND HOW MESSED UP IT REALLY IS. DONT DELETE THIS JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE THIS IS THE DEBATE SECTION. Quote of my life:"Stand up for what is right, even if you are standing alone." |
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Sep 8 2004, 09:23 AM
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[quote]No country on Earth has the physical capability of invading US soil... the two oceans make it hard for large armies to land.
[/quote] Number one, I wasn't talking to you with that one. Number two, You are talking about currently, I was talking about long into the future. [quote]How so? The war is what caused death in the first place... By opposing it, you are causing division, which is not a bad thing most of the tmie. Furthermore, the war was an executive (not congressional) action, and therefore Unconstitutional. Resisting--to the point of defensive force--an unconstitutionaal action of government is not only justified, but is a duty of all citizens. [/quote] Buddy, that has nothing to do with what I was talking about with Gerundio. [quote] Sex with animals is legal in most states ... you see, animals don't have rights. Sex with children SHOULD be legal --- AS LONG AS the children consent. You see, consentual activity is inherently legitimate, whereas passing laws against such activity is inherently coercive, and therefore bad. If two people want to have sex, it is their right. If you oppose having sex with people of your same gender, Don't Do It! [/quote] That doesnt make it less perverse. Pedophilia shouldn't be legal. Children lack understanding of their situation with a consent seeking adult. Adolescence with sexual expierience with an adult grow up traumatized and are physically hurt. Children cannot give consent due to their lack of knowledge and probable lack of parental consent. [quote] The Holocaust was cmopletely legal... does that mean it was a good idea? In either case, law was used as legal fiat. It was not legitimate. The Palestinians had every right to resist an Israeli takeover of their land that the Poles had to resist the Germans, or we had to resist the British in the War of 1812. [/quote] They have the right to resist. Without the power to overcome the offending party they are no longer entitled to their land. Power is law. [quote]That's completely correct actually. The logical statement If P, then Q is always true IF P IS FALSE in teh first place. "When God says something, it happens" is true -- because "God says something" is false. Now try to prove using that method that GOD SAYS THINGS. It becomes harder, doesn't it?[/quote] It does become harder but some of the words God has said have been recorded and the effects can be: seen, heard, felt, smelt, and tasted around the world. [quote] So... if I perceive you to be dead, then you are dead? [/quote] Yes, in your reality. [quote]To the contrary, the empirical method is how facts are established. It has everything to do with everything. [/quote] NO. It has nothing to do with the point I was making by saying the way it was written can be read and you can prove it's flaws logically. [quote] Samuel says taxes are UNJUSTIFIED, not not to pay them. Let me get my bible: 1 Samuel 8:10-18: "So Samuel reported all tehy words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. He said "These will be the ways of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them to his chariots and to be his horsemen, and to run before his chariots and he will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and some to plow the ground and to reap his harvest, and to make implements of war and the equipment of his chariots. He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive orchards and give them to his courtiers. He wil ltake one-tenth of your grain and of your vineyards and give it to his officers and courrtiers. He will take your male and female slaves, and the best of your cattle and donkeys, and put them to work. He will take one-tenth of your flock, and you shall be his slaves. And in that day you will cry ouy because of your king, but the Lord will not answer you in that day. The Italics sections clearly describe a tax.[/quote] the word tax was not introduced until later on. That is saying they will be taxed by their King, not to not pay the taxes. not not paying them means to pay them, double negative you see. Even if something on Earth is unjust, like the Police, The Bible still says to follow the laws of the land. That is to the point where you have a choice between God and law. [quote]A preemptive attack is when you attack first withotu being attacked. Israel was not attacked by Egypt. They attacked first. It doesn't matter what they said. When someone says your hair looks messy is not an excuse to hit them. [/quote] preemptive means to attack before with only one side having knowledge to gain an advantage over an enemy strike. Like a surprise attack. Nasser was aware of his provocation of Israel and was expecting an attack soon. [quote]Too bad the Ark of the Covenant was in Ethiopia. . The Israeli advance had STOPPED. They didn't have enough troops to break the Egyptian defenses around the Suez Canal. If they could've taken Cairo, they would have -- since that would've ended the war. The Israelis already overran their supply lines -- if the war went on, Egypt would've been able to rally and push the Israelis back. Plus, both the Soviets AND the Americans were supporting Egypt at this time ... a world war where the USSR and USA and teh Arabs allied against Israel and France would've ended very quickly in a USSR/USA/Egypt victory. The Germans TOTALLY destroyed the Russian Army in 1941, but they STILL lost the war -- because they overextended their supplies. Without oil, they had to abandon their tanks while the Russians regrouped in Moscow to push them back. THem taking all of Africa is entirely uneralistic -- America couldn't even do that. Guns are only one small part of the military -- the most important part of military science is supply and logistics. No power on Earth can supply forces everywhere in Africa. It's a big continent. God is good for insprinig your troops to bravely defend teh home soil... but God won't rush new oil to your tanks, and new food to your troops. [/quote] IF< key word. If it is God's will, it will happen. God will rush new oil to tanks and new food to troops if that is for the good of his will. [quote]No. I said BECAUSE WE INVADED IRAQ, communist parties around the world are GAINING STRENGTH and will soon be able to control the governments of our key allies, which will FORCE us to resort to Isolationism. [/quote] So we are to let our people die to keep allies? [quote]No they weren't. The first two Arab-Israeli Wars, in 1948 and 1956, were started by Israel. Arab nations did not attack Israel until 1967. [/quote] They were attacked on several occasions long before the arab nations of today were established. [quote]The fact that they are losing a war with Cechneya proves they aren't. [/quote] If we were to launch a nuclear missile at them, they could launch many back in retalliation. That makes them a super power. [quote] If they are that weak, then they don't pose a threat to us. QED attack was unjustifiable. [/quote] No I didn't say weak, i said unstable. Their governments are so wishy-washy they cannot be trusted with nuclear arms. [quote]Or fighting terrorism ... Hussein waged a massive war against Al-Qaeda when they bottled up in the North of the country. Al-Qaeda was supported by teh Kurds, who are historically very hostile to Saddam. [/quote] Ok whatever that still doesnt make them any less of the threat they were to the US. [quote] Rrrrrrrrright... There are a lot of greedy ignorant bastards on both sides. But the distinction between Liberal and Socialist is HUGE: From the AMERICAN HERITAGE DICTIONARY: Liberalism - 2a. A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority Socialism - 1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. Get it? Liberalism says: Individual good. Socialism says: Individual bad. Liberalism says: Capitalism, Constitutional Democracy, and Liberty. Socialism says: Planned Economy, Authoritarianism, and Social Equality. Liberalism is like the Thomas Jefferson. Socialsim is like Karl Marx. MOST democrats today are actually socialists, not liberals (though a few can still be called liberals). There are very few liberals left in America -- and they are probably evenly split between teh Republicans and Democrats. [/quote] I didn't say there weren't any greedy bastards in the republican party. I was saying they both liberals and closet socialistsin the democratic party are trying to make this country socialist. The liberals who don't believe they are making us into a socialist country are still supporting the party financially and with face value giving the socialist party popular puppets to help sway the majority. [quote]There's nothing wrong with our country except when people say it's a "free country", it's not. Not one bit. Not at all. [/quote] as of now we can still carry bibles of any type and can openly be any religion without direct government persecution. We are considerably more free than many countries. |
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ComradeRed
Let's see:
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sikdragon
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No, t... Sep 1 2004, 01:45 PM
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Riiiiiiight.....
Who says the Bible's sta... Sep 9 2004, 02:37 PM
sikdragon
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