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presidents worth more than us?
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post Sep 6 2004, 03:21 AM
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So I recently came across this article on yahoo news. One section struck me as odd:

Several surgeons uninvolved in Clinton's care said they didn't think his doctors would risk treating him with newer, experimental approaches like robotic surgery or laparoscopy, sometimes called keyhole surgery.


"With three-vessel disease in a president, I don't think I'd be doing it," said Dr. W. Randolph Chitwood, chief of cardiovascular surgery at East Carolina University in Greenville, N.C., and a spokesman for the American College of Cardiology.


Does this mean that average people are less important than presidents? Or what? Because if these procedures are "dangerous" then why would it be okay to do them on other people and risk their lives more than the lives of presidents? It worries me you know... hm.
 
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Sep 7 2004, 10:43 PM)
I guess I don't put certain people ahead of other people or deem them as more important than others based on accomplishments. Maybe someone's not able to accomplish as much as the president based on lack of intellect, common sense, or other attributes.  This doesn't make that person any less important than someone who does posess those qualities and uses them to the greatest advantage.

Exactly, because I think there are different ways a person can judge other people of their worth. Accomplishments are a plus of course, but people tend to agree and disagree on what is a good and bad, and I think there are those in this world who would say that what Clinton has done in office aren't really major accomplishments. We weight these things differently, which is a good thing.







I wonder though. When doctors test a new medical proceedure on someone, don't they need his/her consent? I thought that these things are usually done on volunteers....




jo3, did you read my whole post? It was meant to be tied together....

Anyway, to answer you comment:
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no. i don't idolize any celebrities, but i know i wouldn't get as good treatment as celebrities.


You don't idolize celebraties doesn't mean that the majority of the people do not, after all, how are they suppose to be rich if there are not people who would worship the grounds they walk on? happy.gif

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so is Clinton more important than your mom, your dad, or you siblings? Unless your last name's Clinton or your parents have done lots of good things for the world, then i guess your answer would be no. or would it?

also, i don't know why EVERYONE assumes that the President does everything. he has his cabinet, his advisors, and the Senate and House to help him make decisions. he did not change many lives by himself; the government (clinton included) changed many lives. the people got him there, so in a way everyone (who voted) played a part in his actions during his 2 terms.

why does he need body guards? because he's well-known. he needs protection because if he didn't have it, then he could be attacked.

why does he have a better retirement plan? he had a great job. great jobs come with great retirement plans. i bet bill gates will have an awesome retirement plan. i bet most multimillionaires will have great retirement plans


i agree with your last paragraph


Because I'm writing from two perspective I would say that yes, as a patriot, I would think that Clinton has many more things to brag about than my parents do. The logical thing to say is that he is more important to society as a leader than my family (UNLESS my Father was suddenly the President of the country, or my brother found the cure for cancer).

And you're right about bodyguards and retirement plan... but that was my point in the first place ermm.gif. Because of his job, he is an important person to society. Come on, would you say that an asembly line worker is more important the the President if their lives are at stake (logically speaking. Oh, don't involve ethics, because then I would have to agree with you)?

Now then, I'm in favor of my last paragraph also, because as a humanist, I think we should all value each other as people who live with some purpose. Therefore, no one should be more important than anyone else as a human.

But altogether, my point is that a President is more important than an average Joe, but a President is just another average Joe when you take away his title and put him to work like any other blue collar.
 

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TBoltzbabe   presidents worth more than us?   Sep 6 2004, 03:21 AM
F1R3B4T   erhm i think it means they jus dont want to risk t...   Sep 6 2004, 03:28 AM
DaTru KataLYST   If I was going to operate on him, I think I'd ...   Sep 6 2004, 03:30 AM
DrEaMgUy2K1   yea thats kinda odd and a hard question :O :-/ but...   Sep 6 2004, 04:09 AM
hair products   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Sep 6 2004, 3:21 AM)So I r...   Sep 6 2004, 04:25 AM
angel-roh   hmm.. so ur saying that the doctors care less abou...   Sep 6 2004, 05:34 AM
TBoltzbabe   I fixed my post- and I realized how unpopular this...   Sep 7 2004, 06:06 AM
tsohg   Well if they screw up on the president then they j...   Sep 7 2004, 07:09 AM
PinoyOtaku   QUOTE(atpx @ Sep 6 2004, 12:30 AM)If I was go...   Sep 7 2004, 10:17 AM
juliar   Dude, I wouldn't do it because of how dangerou...   Sep 7 2004, 02:45 PM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(PinoyOtaku @ Sep 7 2004, 10:17 AM)I agr...   Sep 7 2004, 04:09 PM
x_babii_gherl_x   thatz wrong .. tsk tsk.. i mean.. he's not p...   Sep 7 2004, 04:20 PM
JlIaTMK   thats stupid.... how dare they.... i mean.... r w...   Sep 7 2004, 04:52 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(x_babii_gherl_x @ Sep 7 2004, 4:20 PM)t...   Sep 7 2004, 05:06 PM
sunissed14127   clinton is from the town i live in...ne ways i thi...   Sep 7 2004, 06:04 PM
x____duckii   QUOTE(x_babii_gherl_x @ Sep 7 2004, 5:20 PM)t...   Sep 7 2004, 06:16 PM
F1R3B4T   ehh maybe becuase hes rich $$$   Sep 7 2004, 06:19 PM
racegirl24A   its a shame people arent treated equally. celebrit...   Sep 7 2004, 06:30 PM
Spirited Away   Hmm, this is getting funny. Why are celebraties ...   Sep 7 2004, 06:42 PM
xolilkatie   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 7 2004, 6:42 PM)Hmm...   Sep 7 2004, 07:13 PM
Stately Lover   QUOTE(tsohg @ Sep 7 2004, 7:09 AM)Well if the...   Sep 7 2004, 07:58 PM
juliar   QUOTE(Stately Lover @ Sep 7 2004, 8:58 PM)But...   Sep 7 2004, 08:48 PM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 7 2004, 6:42 PM)On ...   Sep 7 2004, 10:43 PM
jo3   QUOTE(uninspiredfae)Why aren't we equal? Becau...   Sep 7 2004, 10:57 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Sep 7 2004, 10:43 PM)I gue...   Sep 7 2004, 11:02 PM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 7 2004, 11:02 PM)Ex...   Sep 7 2004, 11:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Sep 7 2004, 11:08 PM)well ...   Sep 7 2004, 11:22 PM
jo3   ok...i see what ur saying QUOTE(uninspiredfae)And...   Sep 8 2004, 12:18 AM
thesweetescape   QUOTE(atpx @ Sep 6 2004, 3:30 AM)If I was goi...   Sep 8 2004, 01:04 AM
PinoyOtaku   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Sep 7 2004, 1:09 PM)excuse...   Sep 8 2004, 01:12 AM
captured_serenity   that's not fair...that's pretty cool...   Sep 8 2004, 10:01 AM
tweeak   yes, to the majority, they are more important than...   Sep 8 2004, 03:14 PM
Spirited Away   Everyone loves the question "what makes Bill ...   Sep 8 2004, 05:17 PM
jo3   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 8 2004, 5:17 PM)Eve...   Sep 8 2004, 08:18 PM
corizzle20   i think that's what they're trying to say   Sep 8 2004, 08:19 PM
magnificentmike   well president's aren't worth more than us...   Sep 8 2004, 09:52 PM
CrackedRearView   In a sense, yes. The president is a more importan...   Sep 8 2004, 09:54 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(jo3 @ Sep 8 2004, 8:18 PM)no one's ...   Sep 8 2004, 10:39 PM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 8 2004, 5:17 PM)Eve...   Sep 8 2004, 10:53 PM
nas   My mum said that it's good a famous person goe...   Sep 9 2004, 05:59 AM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(nas @ Sep 9 2004, 5:59 AM)My mum said t...   Sep 9 2004, 10:56 PM
nas   Mistar Clinton was admitted into Columbia Presbyte...   Sep 9 2004, 11:31 PM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(nas @ Sep 9 2004, 11:31 PM)Mistar Clint...   Sep 9 2004, 11:57 PM
lolita kitty   QUOTE(angel_roh @ Sep 6 2004, 5:34 AM)hmm.. s...   Sep 12 2004, 12:29 PM
madRooney   ur god damn right lady this doctor is a coward......   Oct 12 2004, 11:40 AM
JustPeachy   yea thats bad, i'v thought about that befor to...   Oct 12 2004, 12:39 PM
rhqtpie   they love the presidents more than us lol   Oct 12 2004, 06:01 PM


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