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ppl_love_me
post Aug 30 2004, 08:13 PM
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You must look at, if not read, the book called "Evolution of the Creationist" to realy argue.

The man that wrote the book was an evolutionist, untill a scholar in the colledge he was teaching at asked him to look at the topic of creation. And the research he did (originaly to prove evolution) actually only gave more evedence of creation, and he found much more!

I think the school systems are actually affending religions. In the book He points out that being an evolutionist is haveing a religion, so they are teaching blasfamy. (can't spell sry)

Also, I think scientist can only prove god exsists or he doesn't. And alot of science is ageinst the laws of god and many other religions. like the genetic experimentation on making clones, it is like trying to be god, and prove that humans can function with out him.

If you dissagree with creation. then thorouly explain to me how the parent cell came to being? and How would an animal like the Incubator Bird (look it up ppl!) evolve? and tell me some documented FACTS that has been found.

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post Sep 4 2004, 07:59 PM
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Nature provides for lilies. He doesn't want us to worry, yet many people still worry everyday fearing to get laid off or fired, murdered, raped, whether or not the next famine, earthquake, car accident will kill us. Do you mean to tell me that Christians do not have to worry about these things?


We might worry, but that doesn't mean that we forget that God is still with us. But if foolish desisions are made than yes, you SHOULD worry.

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I know that if unfortunate events occured, it will be inevitable, but if God loves us, then why do unfortunate such things happen?


You forget that one thing christians most often say, God has a purpose for every thing, and a reason for every action. Though we may not know it yet, things may change and become better in the end. You can not weaken, but by body, from unfortunate events, but strengthen in spirit.

If you want to bring experince in to the matter, my Grandmother has gone threw a divorce, breast cancer, two broken arms, two car accidents, gaulbladder removed, another sergery most recently, and her cat just died last month. All these things have happened, but I have never seen a happier person. Her faith couln't be stronger, she has never douted God. I belive God tests people, to test your faith, why? the same reason you get tested at school, to make sure you have it all down right.

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I don't just sit in the street and do nothing and get a job to help my family, and I certainly do NOT do nothing and expect anything great to happen to me. I work for what I have. My Mother didn't sit in the street and do nothing when her two of her children died and when her husband deserted her, she worked for the peace that she has today. She didn't pray to God, she didn't pray to any deities, but look unto herself for the strength to live. You may say that God was looking over her, but she told me that the only thing that bade her to struggle was the will to live and be happy. I suppose I should tell you that my Grandmother was Catholic (though not a hardcore believer), but my Mother chose to forgo religion at a young age and she allows me to do whatever it is that makes me happy, religion or not. We are not testing God, but we live with God or without God, and it matters not.


I'm sorry if I offended you. I'm sorry about what has happened.

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Rephrase your question. From what I understand, you're basically asking what is the purpose to our lives (the cause for our existence, which I understand to be the same thing unless you can explain otherwise), and that has been someone addressed in another thread. So if you can, rephrase it a bit.


Is it not true that for every effect there is a cause? If so what made the universe, the galixy, the planets, the stars, elements? How can something so complex happen so randomly? How could it all just happen?
 

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ppl_love_me   Proof   Aug 30 2004, 08:13 PM
ComradeRed   http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...solat...   Aug 30 2004, 09:12 PM
Devastation   reading some excerpts of the book, and it seems so...   Aug 30 2004, 09:17 PM
ppl_love_me   I'm sorry, I spelled the name wrong. It is an ...   Aug 31 2004, 08:08 AM
ComradeRed   Of course you can't prove evolution, but you c...   Aug 31 2004, 09:03 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Aug 31 2004, 8:08 AM)Now,...   Aug 31 2004, 12:09 PM
raw_material   proof!! read the bible thats proof! ...   Aug 31 2004, 04:58 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 31 2004, 4:58 PM)pro...   Aug 31 2004, 05:18 PM
raw_material   ha!! i had a fealing that u where the one ...   Aug 31 2004, 05:29 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 31 2004, 4:58 PM)pro...   Aug 31 2004, 08:18 PM
Devastation   scientific reasoning seriously needs to be double ...   Aug 31 2004, 08:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Devastation @ Aug 31 2004, 8:21 PM)scie...   Aug 31 2004, 08:45 PM
ppl_love_me   The guy IS a christian. and yes I know there many ...   Aug 31 2004, 08:49 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Aug 31 2004, 8:49 PM)I am...   Aug 31 2004, 08:59 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTESecondly, please refrain from making the comm...   Sep 1 2004, 08:25 AM
sikdragon   cloning isnt like trying to be God, it is still ju...   Sep 1 2004, 08:35 AM
raw_material   "If god created us to beleive in him with our...   Sep 1 2004, 12:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 1 2004, 8:25 AM)I nev...   Sep 1 2004, 05:12 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTENo, YOU think about this, if the whole world ...   Sep 1 2004, 06:00 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 1 2004, 6:00 PM)All w...   Sep 1 2004, 07:25 PM
ReBeL_BlOoD   As far as the bible goes, guess what the number on...   Sep 1 2004, 11:49 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ReBeL_BlOoD @ Sep 1 2004, 11:49 PM)*God...   Sep 1 2004, 11:53 PM
raw_material   "God also has never flooded the earth after N...   Sep 2 2004, 06:21 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(raw_material @ Sep 2 2004, 6:21 PM)...   Sep 2 2004, 06:56 PM
synkro   QUOTEBut think about this. If god created us to be...   Sep 2 2004, 07:05 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTE(synkro @ Sep 2 2004, 7:05 PM)we live to...   Sep 3 2004, 08:06 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 3 2004, 8:06 PM)Don...   Sep 3 2004, 09:16 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTENature provides for lilies. He doesn't wa...   Sep 4 2004, 07:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 4 2004, 7:59 PM)We mi...   Sep 4 2004, 09:07 PM
ppl_love_me   QUOTEHmm, I wouldn't ever consider myself fool...   Sep 5 2004, 01:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 5 2004, 1:12 PM)I don...   Sep 6 2004, 04:07 PM
ppl_love_me   Yes, but remember, he can't go ageinst his own...   Sep 6 2004, 05:10 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 6 2004, 5:10 PM)Yes, ...   Sep 6 2004, 06:23 PM
sikdragon   Nobody argued with what i said. Does that mean i a...   Sep 9 2004, 12:57 AM
Spirited Away   Said about what? I will say something against, ju...   Sep 9 2004, 01:15 AM
ppl_love_me   QUOTE< lost. Just a statement ok I'm sti...   Sep 9 2004, 08:53 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 9 2004, 8:53 PM)Just ...   Sep 9 2004, 11:20 PM
sikdragon   QUOTEcloning isnt like trying to be God, it is sti...   Sep 10 2004, 02:09 AM
ppl_love_me   I am pissed because you insulted me. QUOTEHelp o...   Sep 12 2004, 03:32 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ppl_love_me @ Sep 12 2004, 3:32 PM)I am...   Sep 12 2004, 10:39 PM


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