Affirmative Action Options

[*kryogenix*]

For or against?

I'm against affirmative action. It's simply not fair to deny entry to a college to someone with an astronomical gpa so that someone with a 2.0 gpa can get in just because of their skin color. Racism, pure and simple.

[ComradeRed]

-  minorities have been suppressed for ages.  whites have been going to colleges like harvard before slaves were emancipated.  (like you were ever a slave)

First of all, Harvard was one of the only colleges around at the time... You either went to Harvard or you didn't go anywhere.

In 1776, America only had 7 Colleges: Harvard, Rutgers, Princeton, Yale, Penn, Brown, and Columbia. You either went there or you didn't go anywhere.

Secondly, because they were surpressed 150 years ago doesn't mean they are disadvantaged today. Asian-Americans were surpressed only 60 years ago, and today they, on average, make MORE money than white-Americans do ... without affirmative action. As long as we make a distinction between different races, the minority race will ALWAYS be surpressed -- affirmative action only perpetuates this.

-  people disciminate against minorities.  it happens.  affirmative action counteracts this. (by disciminating some more?) 

Nope. Affiramtive action CAUSES racism. People have been racist against Irish, Italians, Chinese, what have you for CENTURIES -- yet as soon as those ethnic minorities started working hard and achieved economic power WITHOUT affirmative action -- racism against them basically disappeared. Yet there is still racism against blacks and Hispanics -- because they get affirmative action.

-  you do not take a person bent over by the weight of chains, remove them, take them to the starting line, and tell them they are free to compete fairly with everyone else.  you take them, take off the chains, to the finishing line, tell them they're free to  compete with everyone else.

But...they're...dead. We're talking about other people right now. People are INDIVDIUALS, not just black or white.