is there an heaven and a hell??, and which one are you going to? Options

[LiNHy POO]

well me and my boyfriend were talking a few nights ago.. like the title says.. personally.. i believe in greek myth.. and think that everyone goes to the underworld.. ruled by hades.. i dont know if there really is a heavan.. and i dont care where i go.. all i know is that im gonna be buried in the ground..

[xnastyninjagrlx]

Ah, no, I DID meant nothingness in Death as you assumed... I thought I made it clear that nothingness in Death wouldn't faze me at all seeing how I already truly LIVED? What more can I ask for then to live a meaningful life? Heaven? Nah, seeing how that would actually mean constricting free will and what I'm set out to do.

I'm sorry in the midst of all this debate sometimes it's hard to keep up. Anyways, I think basically it all comes down to free will. I think you mean free will for you is living by what you believe it is right and being able to do whatever you want whennever you want. The difference is, as Christians it's all about focusing less on ourselves and more on other people and God. Yes, God gives us free will to choose to believe Him or not, but our free will isn't ours to begin with. Christians believe that "one hasn't lived, until one lives in the light of God." So I'm not saying turly living for youself is wrong, I just think maybe that is an issue of world today because people concentrate on "what are MY goals, ambition, future,..etc" The more and more one lives for Christ, the less important everything else around oneself seem to be. I know free will is a big controversy and it is a bigger issue these days since everyone is entitled to "equal rights," but I just think that freedom is a gift and to choose sin is to abuse the gift of freedom.

To ask for more than satisfaction is greed, no matter how you look at it. Meaning, one's purpose(s) in life IS (one of) the meaning(s) of his/her life, in my opinion.

Actually to ask for more in a sense of asking God for things that He thinks will be beneficial to your growth is not greed at all. God desires us to have a hunger for his Word and his knowledge of Him, Heaven, and Hell. There is always room for people to grow spiritually. So asking for like cars and money is probably not appropaite to your growth on earth because technically you won't own it forever. Things such as to help your friends grow closer to God, people in sickness, for the Church..those are prayers God loves to hear more. So to desire something of possession is probably greed, but to have a desire to be close to God and more like God is a blessing.

Erm, I do not believe in the Devil, therefore it's hard to imagine He would believe in God... But does evil believing really relevant? In Buddhism, evil beings also believe in reicarnation, and Atheists believe in nothingness... To say that even the Devil believes in God, is quite confounding seeing how evils in each religion can believe their own phenomenons.

Well I wasn't speaking of evils of ALL religions, I was speaking of Satan, Lucifer if you will, the devil of angel that God once created as one of his angels. It isnt hard to imagine the devil believing in God because if you believe there even is a God, there has to be some counter balance. Why do you think one of God's fallen angels became a devil? He thought he was more powerful than God and he wanted to abuse his freedom that God has given him. So of course the devil knows there is a God because he defied God in the first place. That is why I mention that people who just THINK they know God is not enough because even the Devil knows and has seen God.

Wouldn't you agree that ANY educational facility that would give a student an 'F', while he completed ALL answers correctly, is an UNJUST educational system? What kind of (T)eacher gives a student an F for correctly answering the test questions? An angry, unjust, uncaring, (T)eacher. PERIOD.

Sorry for the Bad analogy, but what I was getting at is the student's view on the test, not the educational system. Just as most Christians KNOW about God doesn't mean that they will get an "A" in life or go to heaven. So if the student knows the answers but does not use what he knows to apply it to the test, then it is a waste of time and makes no difference if he/she didn't study in the first place.