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is there an heaven and a hell??, and which one are you going to?
LiNHy POO
post Jul 21 2004, 10:24 PM
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well me and my boyfriend were talking a few nights ago.. like the title says.. personally.. i believe in greek myth.. and think that everyone goes to the underworld.. ruled by hades.. i dont know if there really is a heavan.. and i dont care where i go.. all i know is that im gonna be buried in the ground..
 
 
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Spirited Away
post Sep 2 2004, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 2 2004, 11:14 AM)
As a Christian, I think I have to dwell or at least ponder Death a little bit cuz I know there are two main questions God will ask me on judgement day. What did you do with my son Jesus Christ? and What did you do with what I gave you? I don't dwell on it EVERYDAY but I think about it constantly cuz I wanna be able to answer these questions without "messing up" if you will. So kinda like preparing for the unexpected.

I believe I can answer those questions with confidence even without practicing. mellow.gif Because I am expecting the unexpected (other possibilities aside from Heaven and Hell), I feel like I'm prepared for ANYTHING instead of just one possibility.

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oh I thought you meant nothingness is like after death that is the end of you, nothing more, I was purely thinking nothingness in death. But if there is nothingness in death I think that relates to life because what's the point of living if everyone is going to die anyways without anything in life affecting you after death. I mean of course there isn't nothingness in life, there is a whole lot of things that people can contribute to society and the example of the person who's comatose as you said.
Another thing, I was wondering, so does atheist believe in nothingness? I'm not saying your atheist..it juss crossed my mind now.

Ah, no, I DID meant nothingness in Death as you assumed... I thought I made it clear that nothingness in Death wouldn't faze me at all seeing how I already truly LIVED? What more can I ask for then to live a meaningful life? Heaven? Nah, seeing how that would actually mean constricting free will and what I'm set out to do.

What's the purpose of life if there is nothing in Death? I would like to think that everyone has something to live for (ie you for God, and I for my life's purpose), and if one has accomplished or tried his/her best to attain that something, he/she can be (should be) satisfied. To ask for more than satisfaction is greed, no matter how you look at it. Meaning, one's purpose(s) in life IS (one of) the meaning(s) of his/her life, in my opinion.

Most Atheists believe that nothing happens after Death as there are no such thing as the supernatural, and others simply believe that there is NO God. The answer depends on what kind of Atheist you speak with... ermm.gif I cannot answer for them as they have their own concepts of Life and Death, in fact, I speak for no one but myself.

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I think in these forums many people say you gotta BELIEVE, just BELIEVE, and that's enough. In my opinion, I don't think that is enough. THink about it, even the Devil recoginzes and BELIEVES Jesus is God, so if you only BELIEVE and not live a life for Christ it's like knowing the answers on a test and still getting an "F" on it. It is easier to Believe in Jesus than to actually live a life for Him and like Him. Believing is definitely a major aspect, but God does not want to stop you there. He wants you to grow with him and have a good relationship with him throughout your life. Believing is the first step to salvation, but to apply the things in the Bible to your own lives is something totally different.


Erm, I do not believe in the Devil, therefore it's hard to imagine He would believe in God... But does evil believing really relevant? In Buddhism, evil beings also believe in reicarnation, and Atheists believe in nothingness... To say that even the Devil believes in God, is quite confounding seeing how evils in each religion can believe their own phenomenons.

Wouldn't you agree that ANY educational facility that would give a student an 'F', while he completed ALL answers correctly, is an UNJUST educational system? What kind of (T)eacher gives a student an F for correctly answering the test questions? An angry, unjust, uncaring, (T)eacher. PERIOD.

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As for rewarding the bad, God just has an unconditional love for everyone, even the worst people you can think of. When I first came to believe, I thought rewarding the bad was kinda absurd too, but I realize God is a God of love, and he came down to Earth as a Savior to all, but mainly for those who were broken, suffering, in pain..etc. Not to say he is not there for the people who are doing fine, it is that he has a deeper compasion for those who are not loved by others. He loves them even more because he knows that they need Him. It's like if you went into a hospital with a sprain ankle, but someone comes in who has been shot and almost near death, the doctor is going to accompany him first. God is here to help those that need to be saved rather than those who already have salvation and know of his Word. (Although that doesn't mean he loves those good people any less.)


My point is, I do not like a God who rewards the bad while punishing the good and virtuous for simply not believing. According to such system, murders will enjoy eternal life, while charitable, good-hearted, and loving people will suffer Hell. Nothing could EVER make sense from that.
 

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LiNHy POO   is there an heaven and a hell??   Jul 21 2004, 10:24 PM
visualfusion   If there IS a heaven, then there IS a hell. Why? C...   Jul 21 2004, 11:25 PM
bibliomania   There is heaven and hell for those who believe in ...   Jul 21 2004, 11:49 PM
black_cloud10   grew up christian, so yeah i believe in heaven and...   Jul 21 2004, 11:57 PM
ryfitaDF   heaven and hell are less real to me then never nev...   Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM
black_cloud10   hell isn't for anybody who sins. its for the ...   Jul 22 2004, 12:11 AM
IIO__oII   QUOTE(black_cloud10 @ Jul 21 2004, 10:11 PM)h...   Jul 22 2004, 12:19 AM
tootsie_kiddo   i dnt believe in both... when u die, u die. end of...   Jul 22 2004, 08:52 AM
J.K   its all a state of mind...i guess. thats what they...   Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM
NawtyLilAznChic   i dont believe in that heaven n hell thing, i beli...   Jul 22 2004, 06:46 PM
ComradeRed   http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv   Jul 22 2004, 06:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 6:50 PM)http:...   Jul 22 2004, 09:30 PM
ComradeRed   I think Limbo is my highest, and Malebolge is my s...   Jul 22 2004, 09:42 PM
airam   i don't really believe in hell. if god forgive...   Jul 22 2004, 09:42 PM
airam   Sixth Level of Hell - The City of Dis You approac...   Jul 22 2004, 09:48 PM
NawtyLilAznChic   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 7:50 PM)http:...   Jul 22 2004, 10:45 PM
diezelbabygrl_xoxo   QUOTE(airam @ Jul 22 2004, 9:42 PM)i don...   Jul 22 2004, 11:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 9:42 PM)I thi...   Jul 23 2004, 12:07 AM
bibliomania   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 6:50 PM)http:...   Jul 26 2004, 07:17 PM
CEP   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 4:50 PM)http:...   Jul 26 2004, 07:36 PM
AzNPmPGMr   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 4:50 PM)http:...   Jul 26 2004, 07:54 PM
jo3   i believe in a heaven and hell. i believe that tho...   Jul 26 2004, 07:56 PM
Foolish Heart   I believed in Heaven and Hell until I met my boyfr...   Jul 28 2004, 10:19 PM
2fingaz   when people refer to heaven or hell they usually t...   Jul 29 2004, 06:51 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Foolish Heart @ Jul 28 2004, 10:19 PM)I...   Jul 29 2004, 10:25 AM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jul 26 2004, 7:36 PM)...   Aug 3 2004, 04:41 AM
CEP   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 29 2004, 8:25 AM)Well ...   Aug 4 2004, 03:28 AM
CloudUnionX   I am really distant from religion, therefore I hav...   Aug 4 2004, 03:32 AM
Guarneri   THERE SURE IS!   Aug 4 2004, 06:25 AM
ComradeRed   Think about this: If all non-Christians went to H...   Aug 5 2004, 07:11 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 5 2004, 7:11 AM)Think ...   Aug 5 2004, 01:46 PM
aznxdreamer   i think theres only a heaven, and heaven is whatev...   Aug 5 2004, 07:53 PM
DarkCrescentMoon   ah...interesting! i'm going to go to purga...   Aug 5 2004, 11:12 PM
RiC3xBoy   wasnt purgatory the "third final destination...   Aug 6 2004, 02:38 AM
black_cloud10   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 5 2004, 7:11 AM)Think ...   Aug 6 2004, 02:49 AM
Ze world is a Mask   WHO GIVES A FFING CARE? WE'LL KNOW WHEN WE DI...   Aug 6 2004, 05:46 PM
DittotoAnne18   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM)heaven...   Aug 30 2004, 02:44 PM
gerundio   there is no such thing as hell.   Aug 30 2004, 02:49 PM
Mick3Y   Honestly i dun beleive in it... - Tran -   Aug 30 2004, 03:02 PM
raw_material   we are all destined to die once.... heaven is a gi...   Aug 30 2004, 03:24 PM
XxaznskoolgurlxX   honestly...i think the world we live in now is bot...   Aug 30 2004, 03:46 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   I totally believe in Hell and Heaven. THere is alw...   Aug 30 2004, 05:31 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 30 2004, 5:31 PM)...   Aug 30 2004, 05:52 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEI find that life is FULL of meanings and purp...   Aug 31 2004, 04:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 31 2004, 4:48 PM)...   Aug 31 2004, 08:41 PM
MusicalAngel   QUOTE(jo3 @ Jul 26 2004, 7:56 PM)i believe in...   Aug 31 2004, 09:36 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(MusicalAngel @ Aug 31 2004, 9:36 PM)I a...   Aug 31 2004, 10:15 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(MusicalAngel @ Aug 31 2004, 9:36 PM)I a...   Aug 31 2004, 10:17 PM
MusicalAngel   That is the sole difference between Christianity a...   Aug 31 2004, 11:03 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(MusicalAngel @ Aug 31 2004, 11:03 PM)Th...   Aug 31 2004, 11:16 PM
Spirited Away   Good for you but please do not make the mistake of...   Aug 31 2004, 11:24 PM
sikdragon   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM)heaven...   Sep 1 2004, 09:14 AM
sikdragon   The difference is that Jesus was innocent and neve...   Sep 1 2004, 09:17 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEWhy do you focus on life, death and suffering...   Sep 1 2004, 11:25 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEHow about the tribes that live in places like...   Sep 1 2004, 11:34 AM
xpLiCitsmuRfette   QUOTE(black_cloud10 @ Jul 22 2004, 12:11 AM)h...   Sep 1 2004, 12:25 PM
lyin_in_wait   well i believe in both but then again, everybody c...   Sep 1 2004, 12:27 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(lyin_in_wait @ Sep 1 2004, 12:27 PM)wel...   Sep 1 2004, 12:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 1 2004, 9:17 AM)The pas...   Sep 1 2004, 05:41 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEMy expectations only go as far as this life, ...   Sep 1 2004, 06:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 1 2004, 6:43 PM)I...   Sep 1 2004, 07:13 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTESure, to look at both Life and Death is perfe...   Sep 2 2004, 11:14 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 2 2004, 11:14 AM)...   Sep 2 2004, 01:18 PM
Revolt   If there is a God, then He knowingly created us wi...   Sep 2 2004, 03:52 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Revolt @ Sep 2 2004, 3:52 PM)There does...   Sep 2 2004, 05:00 PM
sweetdreamsx3   QUOTE(bibliomania @ Jul 21 2004, 11:49 PM)The...   Sep 2 2004, 05:13 PM
rozee   lol! lemme clear this up! i'm a chri...   Sep 2 2004, 11:32 PM
Spirited Away   Psh, how come there's always someone who will ...   Sep 2 2004, 11:41 PM
DaNgErOusLy_In_LuV   Iz there a heaven or hell...? HmMm... actualli, ya...   Sep 3 2004, 10:05 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEAh, no, I DID meant nothingness in Death as y...   Sep 3 2004, 11:50 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 3 2004, 11:50 AM)...   Sep 3 2004, 08:02 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 2 2004, 1:18 PM)My ...   Sep 4 2004, 01:09 PM
Spirited Away   Why would God pick only specific people, believers...   Sep 4 2004, 08:56 PM
eggnite   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM)heaven...   Sep 5 2004, 06:53 PM
C.Lime.Jello.   Lol. Serizawa = Heaven Makai = Hell Where We Go = ...   Sep 5 2004, 07:22 PM
slurp   i dont exactly know if i believe in heaven and hel...   Sep 6 2004, 01:17 AM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jul 21 2004, 9:19 PM)im not ...   Sep 7 2004, 10:06 PM


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