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Homeless ppl, feel bad for them?
mouse_3k
post Aug 28 2004, 08:57 PM
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ok I am watching America's Most Wanted and there was this story about this gang tht would take homeless ppl and make them slaves, making them sell drugs 24/7 and if they thought the homeless ppl didnt work hard enough, they would kill them. they did this re-inactment about it and it showed this poor old homeless guy begging the gang for food and the gang thru chinese food at him and the homeless guy would eat the scraps. cry.gif i get so sad when things like this happen to the homeless cause they are so harmless and real needy (not a bad thing). I feel sooo bad now after i saw tht re-inactment. I cant even go to DC cause there are homeless ppl and i just will feel so bad for them. I always bring like $10 when i do go to DC so i could get the homeless some food or something.

is there NE one else tht feel bad for the homeless? i hear alot of ppl hate them cause they think all homeless are drunkies and druggies and all..

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ComradeRed
post Sep 1 2004, 09:49 PM
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If someone doesn't like something, then how did he gain from it?

Race is social fiat ... It's a non-issue that peopel use to avoid discussing the real issues. All I'd learn is that there are people who use non-issues to cloud real issues, and that society somehow sends them to good universities through AA.

You haven't addressed my argument except with an allegory... but let's say you're right. Let's say I do learn more at a racially diverse school.

Even if that's true, I'd rather GET IN to a homogenous school than get rejected at a racially diverse one. Wouldn't you?

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Ah and one more thing: Back in the 1970s, when there was no affirmative action in the Ivies, and the Ivies were primarily white, a higher percentage of Ivy League graduates went on to top medical and law fields (Harvard's Class of 1980 had 27% entering law school... compared to only 15% in the Class of 2003).

Today, now that we DO have racial diversity at the Ivies, FEWER members of their graduating classes end up at top graduate fields. The Ivies haev the MOST affirmative action of any school (Harvard's acceptance rate for white students is 11%, and its acceptance rate for black students is 35%). If racial diversity REALLY helped a school, you'd expect MORE of the students to be successful, not less.

In 1960s before the Ivy League affirmative action craze, the schools where students made the most money in their first jobs were Harvard, Princeton, and Yale. Today those schools are MIT, CalTech, and U-Cal Berkeley. At none of those schools is there a strong affirmative action program, whereas the affirmative action programs are very strong at the Ivy League schools.

The percentage of black people at Dartmouth is 9% ... compared to 0.7% for all of New Hampshire (i.e. there are THIRTEEN times more black students at Dartmouth than there should be, if the school accurately reflected the society). If the goal of affirmative action was to represent a cross section of society in its schools ... white students should get affirmative action. Likewise, Harvard, Cornell, Princeton, and Brown all have higher percentages of black people than the cities they are in. The only Ivies where blacks are underrepresented compared to the local city are Yale, Columbia, and Penn, and even then it is close at Yale and Penn.

Here's detailed statistics, proving that African-Americans are in fact OVERREPRESENTED at the Ivy League schools --> College numbers are from the colleges themselves, state numbers from the US Census Bureau:

*Remember that plus or minus 25% is within statistical margin of error

African-Americans at Dartmouth: 9%
African-Americans in New Hampshire: 0.7%
Status: African-Americans overrepresented by 1186% (Whites should get AA alot)

African-Americans at Brown: 6%
African-Americans in Rhode Island: 4%
Status: African-Americans overrepresented by 67% (Whites should get AA)

African-Americans at Harvard: 8%
African-Americans in Massachusetts: 5%
Status: African-Americans overrepresented by 60% (Whites should get AA)

African-Americans at Cornell: 5%
African-Americans in Upstate New York: 5%
Status: African-Americans representation ideal (Nobody should get AA)

African-Americans at Yale: 8%
African-Americans in Connecticut: 10%
Status: African-Americans underrepresented by 20% (Nobody should get AA)

African-Americans at Columbia: 9%
African-Americans in New York: 15%
Status: African-Americans underrepresented by 40% (Blacks should get AA)

African-Americans at Penn: 6%
African-Americans in Pennsylvania: 10%
Status: African-Americans underrepresented by 40% (Blacks should get AA)

African-Americans at Princeton: 8%
African-Americans in New Jersey: 14%
Status: African-Americans underrepresented by 42% (Blacks should get AA)

African-Americans are actually OVERREPRESNETED at half of the IVies ... certainly not disadvantaged.
 

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mouse_3k   Homeless ppl   Aug 28 2004, 08:57 PM
MyVermilionPlague   I feel really bad for them. Some of them choose th...   Aug 28 2004, 09:00 PM
Frankie   That is really sad. it is terrible that people wou...   Aug 28 2004, 09:02 PM
StarryEyedSurprize   well i feel sorry for the ones that have no reason...   Aug 28 2004, 09:03 PM
Rice_on_my_shoe   no Not Really. isn't it their Fault they'r...   Aug 28 2004, 09:05 PM
silver rain   yeah, i feel sorry for them sometimes. but i feel ...   Aug 28 2004, 09:14 PM
jUz_cAnDy   i feel sorry for the old ones and the little ones....   Aug 28 2004, 09:17 PM
slurp   yeah its really sad to see the condition the homel...   Aug 28 2004, 09:21 PM
dani41790   yea i feel bad for some homeless pplz but not the ...   Aug 28 2004, 09:42 PM
xbladeoffire90x   Yeah I feel sorry for all of them. The druggies ...   Aug 28 2004, 09:49 PM
aznriceboi   yes i feel bad for homeless people. we had a debat...   Aug 28 2004, 09:50 PM
leeeza702   I feel bad for SOME homeless people... because som...   Aug 28 2004, 09:53 PM
sweetdreamsx3   oOOh! I just saw that on TV!!!...   Aug 28 2004, 09:56 PM
aznriceboi   QUOTE(somechinkgirl @ Aug 28 2004, 10:56 PM)o...   Aug 28 2004, 09:59 PM
melmigs   QUOTE(aznriceboi @ Aug 28 2004, 10:59 PM)its ...   Aug 28 2004, 10:02 PM
pikimoo   Yeh.. there was this little old lady, always selli...   Aug 28 2004, 10:11 PM
Luster Soldier   It depends on the reason why they're homeless....   Aug 28 2004, 10:11 PM
angel-roh   omg that's sooo wrong!!! those ppl...   Aug 28 2004, 10:12 PM
pikimoo   QUOTE(JL14 @ Aug 28 2004, 7:14 PM)omg i feel ...   Aug 28 2004, 10:15 PM
inlonelinessidie   Yeah people can be so mean and ignorant.   Aug 28 2004, 10:24 PM
rx_azngirl   ....   Aug 29 2004, 12:05 AM
LeSLiE   umm honestly, i really don't feel bad for home...   Aug 29 2004, 12:14 AM
MyVermilionPlague   QUOTE.... Mmm-kay, don't spam. Kthnx.   Aug 29 2004, 12:18 AM
IIO__oII   aww thats so sad. :[ YES I FEEL SO SORRY FOR EM. =...   Aug 29 2004, 12:40 AM
LilPiggi3   Yes i feel bad for REAL homeless people, but as fo...   Aug 29 2004, 12:53 AM
NiKECHiQ   that story so sad ! but for homeless peop...   Aug 29 2004, 01:03 AM
mouse_3k   QUOTEomg that's sooo wrong!!! thos...   Aug 29 2004, 12:37 PM
shawty_redd   i feel bad for them but i mean what can i do. im j...   Aug 29 2004, 01:11 PM
DrEaMgUy2K1   yea i feel bad for them, but sometimes they are ki...   Aug 29 2004, 01:18 PM
xnofearx   depends on the reason why they are homeless, becau...   Aug 29 2004, 01:22 PM
WhiteLotus*   I'm sorta scared of them...0.0   Aug 30 2004, 12:37 AM
Mick3Y   I feel sad for them, but sometimes i think they de...   Aug 30 2004, 01:09 AM
PinoyOtaku   I do feel sorry for them, but to an extent. There ...   Aug 30 2004, 01:51 AM
ComradeRed   We spend over $20,000 per poor person on welf...   Aug 30 2004, 01:49 PM
seriouslynikki   QUOTE(StarryEyedSurprize @ Aug 28 2004, 9:03 ...   Aug 30 2004, 02:22 PM
laur3nw   QUOTE(StarryEyedSurprize @ Aug 28 2004, 7:03 ...   Aug 30 2004, 03:02 PM
Stately Lover   I feel bad for the ones who were helpless and ende...   Aug 30 2004, 09:23 PM
F1R3B4T   yeh i fully understand ur point of view but den ag...   Aug 31 2004, 02:17 AM
ComradeRed   Doesn't the husband have assets? Your spouse c...   Aug 31 2004, 07:29 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   That story is awful! I do feel sorrie for some...   Aug 31 2004, 01:33 PM
CrackedRearView   Not at all -- My brother has been the victim of t...   Aug 31 2004, 06:04 PM
ComradeRed   There is no gender affirmative action at colleges....   Aug 31 2004, 06:36 PM
kryogenix   Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a ...   Aug 31 2004, 07:33 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 31 2004, 7:33 PM)Give a...   Aug 31 2004, 07:36 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 31 2004, 7:33 PM)Give a...   Aug 31 2004, 07:43 PM
mzteriouzme007   taht's sad... but weeird   Sep 1 2004, 12:11 AM
sikdragon   thats good business, hiring the cheapest possible ...   Sep 1 2004, 08:59 AM
sikdragon   minimum wage is 6.25 an hour last i checked that i...   Sep 1 2004, 09:03 AM
ComradeRed   Most homeless don't have $6.25 an hour wo...   Sep 1 2004, 01:51 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEYou should work to improve your credentials a...   Sep 1 2004, 04:05 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Sep 1 2004, 4:05 PM)O...   Sep 1 2004, 05:25 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(gerundio @ Sep 1 2004, 4:25 PM)You do a...   Sep 1 2004, 05:29 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Sep 1 2004, 5:29 PM)E...   Sep 1 2004, 05:35 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Sep 1 2004, 4:05 PM)W...   Sep 1 2004, 07:14 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(gerundio @ Sep 1 2004, 4:35 PM)No you d...   Sep 1 2004, 08:44 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Sep 1 2004, 8:44 PM)A...   Sep 1 2004, 09:05 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEBecause it ensures that there is diversity in...   Sep 1 2004, 09:08 PM
Levy2k6   talking about the homeless... Homeless to Harvard ...   Sep 1 2004, 09:09 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(gerundio @ Sep 1 2004, 9:05 PM)Because ...   Sep 1 2004, 09:31 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 1 2004, 9:31 PM)And an...   Sep 1 2004, 09:45 PM
ComradeRed   If someone doesn't like something, then how di...   Sep 1 2004, 09:49 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 1 2004, 9:49 PM)If som...   Sep 1 2004, 10:12 PM
ComradeRed   Well I can go to Downtown to learn about life for ...   Sep 1 2004, 10:38 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 1 2004, 10:38 PM)Well ...   Sep 1 2004, 10:53 PM
kryogenix   take this AA debate somewhere else please. homele...   Sep 2 2004, 07:45 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(gerundio @ Sep 1 2004, 10:53 PM)No, you...   Sep 2 2004, 11:31 AM
DaNgErOusLy_In_LuV   ok well, yesterdai me n mah momz went to a 711 n t...   Sep 3 2004, 10:16 AM
ComradeRed   I don't have a whole lot of muni either. Isn...   Sep 3 2004, 02:10 PM
DaNgErOusLy_In_LuV   huh wut? IDK!!!!!!! a...   Sep 3 2004, 02:41 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 2 2004, 11:31 AM)I...   Sep 3 2004, 03:22 PM
Angelos   man i live in dc and its insane the amount of home...   Sep 3 2004, 03:27 PM
sharerolling   I feel bad for SOME of them. Cuz some of them are ...   Sep 3 2004, 03:33 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Angelos @ Sep 3 2004, 3:27 PM)man i liv...   Sep 3 2004, 03:37 PM
Angelos   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Sep 3 2004, 3:22 PM)i can vo...   Sep 3 2004, 03:42 PM
ryfitaDF   the ones with mental disabilities are protected by...   Sep 3 2004, 03:57 PM
acidbreeze   Yes, my city (DC) has tons of homeless. A lot live...   Sep 3 2004, 04:06 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Angelos @ Sep 3 2004, 3:42 PM)wait its ...   Sep 3 2004, 04:57 PM
mSz_dOrk_anGeL   why dont they just go out and get jobs .. THEN you...   Sep 5 2004, 01:30 AM
omg_melface   At times I do... But recently, in downtown of my c...   Sep 6 2004, 09:46 AM
waccoon   QUOTE(mSz_dOrk_anGeL @ Sep 5 2004, 2:30 AM)wh...   Sep 6 2004, 10:22 AM
Levy2k6   for the address part.. you just write at what brid...   Sep 6 2004, 10:26 AM
omg_melface   Well.. McDonald's is ALWAYS hiring... and they...   Sep 6 2004, 10:29 AM


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