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is there an heaven and a hell??, and which one are you going to?
LiNHy POO
post Jul 21 2004, 10:24 PM
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well me and my boyfriend were talking a few nights ago.. like the title says.. personally.. i believe in greek myth.. and think that everyone goes to the underworld.. ruled by hades.. i dont know if there really is a heavan.. and i dont care where i go.. all i know is that im gonna be buried in the ground..
 
 
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post Sep 1 2004, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 1 2004, 6:43 PM)
I think your main focus is on life and living life itself, which is perfectly fine. For Christians, we HAVE to plan beyond mortality because one day our God promised us he will come down to earth again and save those who have been faithful to Him. So for us, it is not illogical to plan after life, that is why we look at life as a "dress rehersal" before heaven. Everything we do on earth dictates what is going to happen to us come judgement day. As for fear of Hell, that is honestly one reason to look at it cuz I know a lot of Christians believe because they want to "get out" of Hell. For me, it WAS a part of that, but I've come to accept God as my Savior and acknowledge his undying love for me and in turn I want to spend eternity with Him in Heaven because of what he did for me. I think the love of life is great because God give you life and surely it is something to praise and be joyous about, but I know He gave me this life and therefore my love/motivation is to met him in Heaven.

Right, then that means all we have are expectations, not truths. Maybe one can say that expectations can come to be true, but then again, there are MANY expectations.

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I agree everyone's expecations are different. Life is short, no doubt, even God warned us to beware of the "evil days" to come. What I was getting at is that Heaven and Hell are what is offered after death. I think the main distinction is you live life on what you can achieve something positive here physically on earth, of course that is not wrong cuz that is how God wants us to live our life. But he also wants us to live what HE has to OFFER to us and the plans that he has. Some people may think what they are doing now is what God wants them to do, but God can change ur life in a split second and send you off to be a missionary, pastor..etc. So I think to ponder about life after death is perfectly healthy because then you will start living a life towards eternity rather than what is offered right now at this moment.

Sure, to look at both Life and Death is perfectly normal, but to dwell on them is very much unhealthy... it becomes an obsession.

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ohh i see.., so if there is nothingness would there be a difference between life and death? Personally reincarnation doesn't do it for me cuz the whole idea of it is that we turn into something else completely different from what we were before. Humans are the most unique species on earth and to have the idea that we turn into something other than what we already is very odd.


Erm, no huh.gif . Nothingness in Death doesn't equate to nothingness in Life because even a person who's comatose (may experience nothingness, with the exception of dreams) is loved/cared for or at least his/her existence is acknowledged by someone and that's NOT nothingness.

Actually I do not think you have the whole idea on what reincarnation is... Reincarnation makes more sense to me than Heaven and Hell. While reincarnation punishes the ones who have done evil and rewards the good, the concept of Heaven and Hell rewards the bad with eternal bliss only if he/she 'believes'.

There is a cycle to almost everything (think planets revolving around the Sun and how plants can grow where a dead animal decayed...) and reincarnation is a cycle of life and death...
 

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LiNHy POO   is there an heaven and a hell??   Jul 21 2004, 10:24 PM
visualfusion   If there IS a heaven, then there IS a hell. Why? C...   Jul 21 2004, 11:25 PM
bibliomania   There is heaven and hell for those who believe in ...   Jul 21 2004, 11:49 PM
black_cloud10   grew up christian, so yeah i believe in heaven and...   Jul 21 2004, 11:57 PM
ryfitaDF   heaven and hell are less real to me then never nev...   Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM
black_cloud10   hell isn't for anybody who sins. its for the ...   Jul 22 2004, 12:11 AM
IIO__oII   QUOTE(black_cloud10 @ Jul 21 2004, 10:11 PM)h...   Jul 22 2004, 12:19 AM
tootsie_kiddo   i dnt believe in both... when u die, u die. end of...   Jul 22 2004, 08:52 AM
J.K   its all a state of mind...i guess. thats what they...   Jul 22 2004, 04:54 PM
NawtyLilAznChic   i dont believe in that heaven n hell thing, i beli...   Jul 22 2004, 06:46 PM
ComradeRed   http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.mv   Jul 22 2004, 06:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 6:50 PM)http:...   Jul 22 2004, 09:30 PM
ComradeRed   I think Limbo is my highest, and Malebolge is my s...   Jul 22 2004, 09:42 PM
airam   i don't really believe in hell. if god forgive...   Jul 22 2004, 09:42 PM
airam   Sixth Level of Hell - The City of Dis You approac...   Jul 22 2004, 09:48 PM
NawtyLilAznChic   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 7:50 PM)http:...   Jul 22 2004, 10:45 PM
diezelbabygrl_xoxo   QUOTE(airam @ Jul 22 2004, 9:42 PM)i don...   Jul 22 2004, 11:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 9:42 PM)I thi...   Jul 23 2004, 12:07 AM
bibliomania   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 6:50 PM)http:...   Jul 26 2004, 07:17 PM
CEP   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 4:50 PM)http:...   Jul 26 2004, 07:36 PM
AzNPmPGMr   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 22 2004, 4:50 PM)http:...   Jul 26 2004, 07:54 PM
jo3   i believe in a heaven and hell. i believe that tho...   Jul 26 2004, 07:56 PM
Foolish Heart   I believed in Heaven and Hell until I met my boyfr...   Jul 28 2004, 10:19 PM
2fingaz   when people refer to heaven or hell they usually t...   Jul 29 2004, 06:51 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Foolish Heart @ Jul 28 2004, 10:19 PM)I...   Jul 29 2004, 10:25 AM
RiC3xBoy   QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jul 26 2004, 7:36 PM)...   Aug 3 2004, 04:41 AM
CEP   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 29 2004, 8:25 AM)Well ...   Aug 4 2004, 03:28 AM
CloudUnionX   I am really distant from religion, therefore I hav...   Aug 4 2004, 03:32 AM
Guarneri   THERE SURE IS!   Aug 4 2004, 06:25 AM
ComradeRed   Think about this: If all non-Christians went to H...   Aug 5 2004, 07:11 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 5 2004, 7:11 AM)Think ...   Aug 5 2004, 01:46 PM
aznxdreamer   i think theres only a heaven, and heaven is whatev...   Aug 5 2004, 07:53 PM
DarkCrescentMoon   ah...interesting! i'm going to go to purga...   Aug 5 2004, 11:12 PM
RiC3xBoy   wasnt purgatory the "third final destination...   Aug 6 2004, 02:38 AM
black_cloud10   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 5 2004, 7:11 AM)Think ...   Aug 6 2004, 02:49 AM
Ze world is a Mask   WHO GIVES A FFING CARE? WE'LL KNOW WHEN WE DI...   Aug 6 2004, 05:46 PM
DittotoAnne18   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM)heaven...   Aug 30 2004, 02:44 PM
gerundio   there is no such thing as hell.   Aug 30 2004, 02:49 PM
Mick3Y   Honestly i dun beleive in it... - Tran -   Aug 30 2004, 03:02 PM
raw_material   we are all destined to die once.... heaven is a gi...   Aug 30 2004, 03:24 PM
XxaznskoolgurlxX   honestly...i think the world we live in now is bot...   Aug 30 2004, 03:46 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   I totally believe in Hell and Heaven. THere is alw...   Aug 30 2004, 05:31 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 30 2004, 5:31 PM)...   Aug 30 2004, 05:52 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEI find that life is FULL of meanings and purp...   Aug 31 2004, 04:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Aug 31 2004, 4:48 PM)...   Aug 31 2004, 08:41 PM
MusicalAngel   QUOTE(jo3 @ Jul 26 2004, 7:56 PM)i believe in...   Aug 31 2004, 09:36 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(MusicalAngel @ Aug 31 2004, 9:36 PM)I a...   Aug 31 2004, 10:15 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(MusicalAngel @ Aug 31 2004, 9:36 PM)I a...   Aug 31 2004, 10:17 PM
MusicalAngel   That is the sole difference between Christianity a...   Aug 31 2004, 11:03 PM
gerundio   QUOTE(MusicalAngel @ Aug 31 2004, 11:03 PM)Th...   Aug 31 2004, 11:16 PM
Spirited Away   Good for you but please do not make the mistake of...   Aug 31 2004, 11:24 PM
sikdragon   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM)heaven...   Sep 1 2004, 09:14 AM
sikdragon   The difference is that Jesus was innocent and neve...   Sep 1 2004, 09:17 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEWhy do you focus on life, death and suffering...   Sep 1 2004, 11:25 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEHow about the tribes that live in places like...   Sep 1 2004, 11:34 AM
xpLiCitsmuRfette   QUOTE(black_cloud10 @ Jul 22 2004, 12:11 AM)h...   Sep 1 2004, 12:25 PM
lyin_in_wait   well i believe in both but then again, everybody c...   Sep 1 2004, 12:27 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(lyin_in_wait @ Sep 1 2004, 12:27 PM)wel...   Sep 1 2004, 12:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Sep 1 2004, 9:17 AM)The pas...   Sep 1 2004, 05:41 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEMy expectations only go as far as this life, ...   Sep 1 2004, 06:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 1 2004, 6:43 PM)I...   Sep 1 2004, 07:13 PM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTESure, to look at both Life and Death is perfe...   Sep 2 2004, 11:14 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 2 2004, 11:14 AM)...   Sep 2 2004, 01:18 PM
Revolt   If there is a God, then He knowingly created us wi...   Sep 2 2004, 03:52 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Revolt @ Sep 2 2004, 3:52 PM)There does...   Sep 2 2004, 05:00 PM
sweetdreamsx3   QUOTE(bibliomania @ Jul 21 2004, 11:49 PM)The...   Sep 2 2004, 05:13 PM
rozee   lol! lemme clear this up! i'm a chri...   Sep 2 2004, 11:32 PM
Spirited Away   Psh, how come there's always someone who will ...   Sep 2 2004, 11:41 PM
DaNgErOusLy_In_LuV   Iz there a heaven or hell...? HmMm... actualli, ya...   Sep 3 2004, 10:05 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTEAh, no, I DID meant nothingness in Death as y...   Sep 3 2004, 11:50 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(xnastyninjagrlx @ Sep 3 2004, 11:50 AM)...   Sep 3 2004, 08:02 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 2 2004, 1:18 PM)My ...   Sep 4 2004, 01:09 PM
Spirited Away   Why would God pick only specific people, believers...   Sep 4 2004, 08:56 PM
eggnite   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 22 2004, 12:08 AM)heaven...   Sep 5 2004, 06:53 PM
C.Lime.Jello.   Lol. Serizawa = Heaven Makai = Hell Where We Go = ...   Sep 5 2004, 07:22 PM
slurp   i dont exactly know if i believe in heaven and hel...   Sep 6 2004, 01:17 AM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jul 21 2004, 9:19 PM)im not ...   Sep 7 2004, 10:06 PM


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