is there an heaven and a hell??, and which one are you going to? Options

[LiNHy POO]

well me and my boyfriend were talking a few nights ago.. like the title says.. personally.. i believe in greek myth.. and think that everyone goes to the underworld.. ruled by hades.. i dont know if there really is a heavan.. and i dont care where i go.. all i know is that im gonna be buried in the ground..

[xnastyninjagrlx]

My expectations only go as far as this life, and in my humble opinion, to plan for anything beyond mortality is illogical. As for Christians who say that it is better to die once and go to Heaven... etc, it seems like their fear of Hell is the only motivation to believe. Perhaps there is also the love of God that drive them to believe, but I have the love of life, and that's enough.

I think your main focus is on life and living life itself, which is perfectly fine. For Christians, we HAVE to plan beyond mortality because one day our God promised us he will come down to earth again and save those who have been faithful to Him. So for us, it is not illogical to plan after life, that is why we look at life as a "dress rehersal" before heaven. Everything we do on earth dictates what is going to happen to us come judgement day. As for fear of Hell, that is honestly one reason to look at it cuz I know a lot of Christians believe because they want to "get out" of Hell. For me, it WAS a part of that, but I've come to accept God as my Savior and acknowledge his undying love for me and in turn I want to spend eternity with Him in Heaven because of what he did for me. I think the love of life is great because God give you life and surely it is something to praise and be joyous about, but I know He gave me this life and therefore my love/motivation is to met him in Heaven.

Once again, our expectations of what life is and isn't set the stage for this debate. I think what you're getting at (let me know if I'm wrong) is simply "life is short" and that life isn't Paradise, therefore there must be something more to offer than this.

I agree everyone's expecations are different. Life is short, no doubt, even God warned us to beware of the "evil days" to come. What I was getting at is that Heaven and Hell are what is offered after death. I think the main distinction is you live life on what you can achieve something positive here physically on earth, of course that is not wrong cuz that is how God wants us to live our life. But he also wants us to live what HE has to OFFER to us and the plans that he has. Some people may think what they are doing now is what God wants them to do, but God can change ur life in a split second and send you off to be a missionary, pastor..etc. So I think to ponder about life after death is perfectly healthy because then you will start living a life towards eternity rather than what is offered right now at this moment.

In my concept of life, I do not emphasize Death simply because I am open to all posibilities: reincarnation, Heaven and Hell, even nothingness, and others. Knowing that I will go to Hell for my disbelief, I choose to accept it as something inevitable, but I will not completely betray myself to religion.

ohh i see.., so if there is nothingness would there be a difference between life and death? Personally reincarnation doesn't do it for me cuz the whole idea of it is that we turn into something else completely different from what we were before. Humans are the most unique species on earth and to have the idea that we turn into something other than what we already is very odd.