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The Good in President Bush, I would like to know...
Alpha240
post Aug 17 2004, 09:09 AM
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I've read many debates regarding George Bush and John Kerry. Unlike Bush, Kerry never had a chance to prove himself as a president and show the American people how he could help this country and its people. George Bush had almost 4 years now to make a difference, and in my opinion any difference he made was make our country worse than it was before. I just don't understand why people like Bush. I really don't. I've heard unrational reasons, such as "He is a Christian" and "He is a strong leader", but I have not heard any REAL reasons on why Bush is a good person/president. So pleeease... someone tell me why so many people out there like Bush.

I would like non war related reasons, because i am against the war and therefore I will disagree with almost any reason given regarding the war.
For example: if you say you like Bush because he caught Saddam Hussein, my reply would be that he had no probable cause to go after Hussein. Even if he saw him as a threat, Bush had no proof or real intelligence to have reasons to bomb Suddam's country and capture him. I also don't believe in pre-emptive attacks. I think they are extremely hypocritical and destructive.

So if anyone has any input on how Bush improved our economy, environment, societal problems, scientific and technological advances, or anything along those lines please let me know.
 
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 01:33 PM
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We could remove all the evil dictators in the world, but as long as they aren't at war with us, it wouldn't be worth the cost of a single US Dollar. You see, the Congress represents the AMERICAN people -- not the Iraqi. It is morally wrong for it to force us to pay for things in other countries. Evil or not, Bush was derelict in his duties towards Americans -- instead focusing on other countries. This makes him unworthy to lead as commander-in-chief.

We bribed most of the members of our coalition with "no-bid" contracts in Iraq... In fact, the only three members of the coalition that we DID NOT bribe thusly were ourselves, the Netherlands, and Albania. Most of the governments that sent troops into Iraq are now unstable. Every democratic government that has sent troops into Iraq, except for ourselves and the United Kingdom, was soundly defeated in their next general election.

Not surprsingly, most of the new governments that then came into power have been radical left-wing parties that formerly COULD NOT HAVE HAD ANY POLITICAL POWER -- thus, even if you can claim that we did free Iraq from a dictator, we have arguably installed dozens of new socialists dictators-lite in many countries in the world from Japan to Spain. Even in our own country, Kerry will almost definitely win the next election due to the War on Iraq -- signaling an even more unpredictable turn in American politics. Seeing as the Republicans and the Republicans alone will be blamed for the war (which is now opposed by a majority of Americans), it is highly likely that the Democrats will remain in power for many election cycles -- leading to bigger government here. The new breed of democrat will also be "tough" democrats like Hillary Clinton who have no problem with trampelling on our Constitutional and human rights. In due time, America will turn into the regime we destroyed in Iraq.

You know, the Neoconservative movement was started by liberal Jewish socialists, who believed in the ideas of Leon Trotsky (worldwide revolution). Even though modern neo-conservatives are rarely socialist, they are playing right into the socialist agenda. Trotsky must be laughing in his grave.

"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. [There is an] inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and...degeneracy of manners and of morals...No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."
--James Madison, father of the Constitution and Bill of Rights

The Truth Behind Iraq, by the American Conservative Magazine
 

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sweetx305   The Good in President Bush   Aug 17 2004, 09:09 AM
Spirited Away   Tell me what Kerry could've done diffently for...   Aug 17 2004, 10:26 AM
pikimoo   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 17 2004, 7:26 AM)Te...   Aug 17 2004, 10:31 AM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(pikimoo @ Aug 17 2004, 8:31 AM)Well, if...   Aug 17 2004, 10:36 AM
th5418   The fact he took down a tyrant?   Aug 17 2004, 10:36 AM
Spirited Away   What do you know about Kerry and what he supports ...   Aug 17 2004, 10:36 AM
pikimoo   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 17 2004, 7:36 AM)Wh...   Aug 17 2004, 10:43 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(pikimoo @ Aug 17 2004, 10:43 AM)Err.. n...   Aug 17 2004, 10:48 AM
pikimoo   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 17 2004, 7:48 AM)Hm...   Aug 17 2004, 10:51 AM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 17 2004, 8:36 AM)An...   Aug 17 2004, 02:30 PM
ComradeRed   www.jibjab.com : Nicely summarizes the main differ...   Aug 17 2004, 02:44 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 17 2004, 12:44 PM)www....   Aug 17 2004, 02:44 PM
ComradeRed   It is...   Aug 17 2004, 02:52 PM
Devastation   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 17 2004, 2:44 PM)www.j...   Aug 17 2004, 03:31 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEcomradered knows his stuff, taking an animati...   Aug 17 2004, 03:37 PM
Devastation   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Aug 17 2004, 3:37 PM)Whoa......   Aug 17 2004, 03:43 PM
ComradeRed   lol thanks!   Aug 17 2004, 05:35 PM
highly_evolved   i still havnt read anything about wats good about ...   Aug 17 2004, 08:18 PM
ComradeRed   Bush is a major flip-flopper. In 2000: - Supporte...   Aug 17 2004, 08:32 PM
highly_evolved   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 17 2004, 8:32 PM)Bush ...   Aug 17 2004, 08:53 PM
Mini   Bush is also supporting the Patriot's Act. In ...   Aug 17 2004, 09:19 PM
highly_evolved   yeah and not many ppl who should have read the pat...   Aug 17 2004, 09:23 PM
CrackedRearView   Can any one of the Kerry supporters out there expl...   Aug 17 2004, 09:24 PM
sweetx305   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 17 2004, 9:24 PM)...   Aug 17 2004, 09:49 PM
th5418   QUOTE(highly_evolved @ Aug 17 2004, 8:18 PM)i...   Aug 17 2004, 09:51 PM
CrackedRearView   I just want you to explain to me why you think pre...   Aug 17 2004, 09:51 PM
ComradeRed   OH yes, Kerry is a huge hypocrite, there's no ...   Aug 17 2004, 09:56 PM
Mini   I don't like either. I want Comrade Red as Pre...   Aug 17 2004, 10:14 PM
sweetx305   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 17 2004, 9:51 PM)...   Aug 17 2004, 10:26 PM
highly_evolved   hey this topic is about wat good bush has down to ...   Aug 17 2004, 10:27 PM
Mini   Doesn't anyone listen to me? Screw them both a...   Aug 17 2004, 10:36 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sweetx305 @ Aug 17 2004, 9:49 PM)I thin...   Aug 17 2004, 10:38 PM
Mini   QUOTESo you are qualified to say who is more evil ...   Aug 17 2004, 10:45 PM
highly_evolved   thats a scary thought.. yes the idea of communism ...   Aug 17 2004, 10:47 PM
Mini   QUOTE(highly_evolved @ Aug 17 2004, 10:47 PM)...   Aug 17 2004, 10:49 PM
angel-roh   i dont like kerry and i dont like bush. i hate bot...   Aug 17 2004, 10:51 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 17 2004, 2:44 PM)www.j...   Aug 17 2004, 10:54 PM
highly_evolved   world peace means pleasing everyone. if u cant hav...   Aug 17 2004, 10:54 PM
Mini   QUOTE(highly_evolved @ Aug 17 2004, 10:54 PM)...   Aug 17 2004, 10:55 PM
angel-roh   im not making another debate on gay marriages. all...   Aug 17 2004, 10:57 PM
highly_evolved   well thats nice to know but i hope urealize that t...   Aug 17 2004, 10:58 PM
Mini   WEll, I hate them both too. VOTE FOR COMRADE RED...   Aug 17 2004, 10:59 PM
sweetx305   QUOTEhmm, I don't know if you know how this wo...   Aug 17 2004, 11:58 PM
ryfitaDF   i don't like kerry for any reason other than h...   Aug 18 2004, 12:04 AM
Mini   QUOTEI agree that democracy is a better form of go...   Aug 18 2004, 12:14 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sweetx305 @ Aug 17 2004, 11:58 PM)Actua...   Aug 18 2004, 12:16 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTE(sweetx305 @ Aug 17 2004, 9:26 PM)I thin...   Aug 18 2004, 12:30 AM
Mini   Let me ask a question, what does John Kerry have t...   Aug 18 2004, 12:52 AM
sikdragon   Bush has done an awesome job has president, every...   Aug 18 2004, 07:59 AM
Mini   Although, Bush is trying to make good attentions, ...   Aug 18 2004, 09:21 AM
sikdragon   it isnt doing more harm than good, i mean not that...   Aug 18 2004, 09:32 AM
sweetx305   QUOTEI remember specifically saying that it would ...   Aug 18 2004, 09:52 AM
sikdragon   QUOTEok I'm going to assume that you weren...   Aug 18 2004, 09:56 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sweetx305 @ Aug 18 2004, 9:52 AM)Yea yo...   Aug 18 2004, 10:11 AM
sikdragon   dont i get a quote? :'(   Aug 18 2004, 10:35 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE4. The economy is not doing well at all. Our ...   Aug 18 2004, 05:38 PM
sugarcultluver   Heres why my family supports Bush: - hes going aft...   Aug 18 2004, 05:48 PM
ComradeRed   Is there a large political constituency that is ag...   Aug 18 2004, 06:29 PM
Devastation   the good in bush is basically many reasons, he pla...   Aug 18 2004, 07:30 PM
Knight   I think Bush isn't exactly the best president....   Aug 18 2004, 07:32 PM
Devastation   basically dude above me. but, in his strong debate...   Aug 18 2004, 07:42 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(sugarcultluver @ Aug 18 2004, 5:48 PM)-...   Aug 18 2004, 07:52 PM
Devastation   not really going after terreriosts basically just ...   Aug 18 2004, 08:12 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEcorrect me if i'm wrong but isn't tha...   Aug 18 2004, 08:54 PM
highly_evolved   BY GIVING US NO JOBS!!! NO JOBS = NO M...   Aug 18 2004, 09:16 PM
ryfitaDF   concidering when clinton raised taxes on the wealt...   Aug 18 2004, 09:18 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(highly_evolved @ Aug 18 2004, 9:16 PM)B...   Aug 18 2004, 09:24 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 18 2004, 9:24 PM)After...   Aug 18 2004, 09:32 PM
ComradeRed   The War on Terror is very cheap. The most expensiv...   Aug 18 2004, 09:38 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 18 2004, 9:38 PM)...   Aug 18 2004, 09:59 PM
sweetx305   there's a lot of comments I want to reply to.....   Aug 18 2004, 10:21 PM
Spirited Away   So does harvesting stem cells destroy the embryo t...   Aug 19 2004, 12:08 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Aug 18 2004, 9:59 PM)but wha...   Aug 19 2004, 07:38 AM
sweetx305   Harvesting stem cells DO destroy the embryo, and t...   Aug 19 2004, 07:39 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sweetx305 @ Aug 19 2004, 7:39 AM)Therap...   Aug 19 2004, 12:44 PM
sweetx305   QUOTETherapeutic cloning isn't illegal, is it?...   Aug 20 2004, 07:10 AM
sikdragon   http://www.georgewbush.com/Media/Economy.swf go h...   Aug 23 2004, 01:20 AM
angel-roh   i just know that kerry just wants the money and no...   Aug 23 2004, 03:49 AM
scleex88   i hate bush, he sucks. hes nto christian, hes ****   Aug 23 2004, 03:52 AM
angel-roh   QUOTE(scleex88 @ Aug 23 2004, 1:52 AM)i hate ...   Aug 23 2004, 03:54 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(anqel_r0h @ Aug 23 2004, 3:49 AM)i just...   Aug 23 2004, 11:52 AM
Angelos   aint no good and bush all though technically Chene...   Aug 23 2004, 11:58 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelos @ Aug 23 2004, 11:58 AM)aint no...   Aug 23 2004, 01:15 PM
Suesterrx   theres one good thing in bush. and that hes a majo...   Aug 28 2004, 10:06 PM
Kathleen   You mean worse as in no more people are being tort...   Aug 28 2004, 10:22 PM
ComradeRed   So... The thousand American soldiers nad $200...   Aug 29 2004, 08:01 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Suesterrx @ Aug 28 2004, 10:06 PM)there...   Aug 30 2004, 07:54 AM
ComradeRed   We could remove all the evil dictators in the worl...   Aug 30 2004, 01:33 PM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 17 2004, 7:26 AM)Te...   Sep 7 2004, 10:23 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Sep 7 2004, 10:23 PM...   Sep 7 2004, 10:48 PM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 7 2004, 7:48 PM)Hmm...   Sep 7 2004, 11:17 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Sep 7 2004, 11:17 PM...   Sep 7 2004, 11:30 PM
jo3   Look at what the League of Nations (pretty much t...   Sep 7 2004, 11:52 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEour intelligence agency is pretty up to date ...   Sep 8 2004, 12:23 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTEthen i have a good idea. the US should get ri...   Sep 8 2004, 03:29 PM
barelyy_coherent   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Sep 7 2004, 8:30 PM)I d...   Sep 8 2004, 05:38 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Sep 8 2004, 3:29 PM)if he ko...   Sep 8 2004, 06:41 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Sep 8 2004, 6:41 PM)Kerry ...   Sep 8 2004, 06:48 PM
ComradeRed   Bush and his entire entourage is anti-draft... A ...   Sep 8 2004, 07:11 PM
jo3   kinda random, but sorry comradered....zell miller...   Sep 8 2004, 08:26 PM
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