marijuana, legal? Options

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i know there this topic about this in lounge but i wanted only serious reponses, and i'm asking something different anyway

do you think pot should be legal?
if yes, what good will come out of it?
do you aprove people using it?
have you ever tried it?

i tihnk it should be legal because there is good that will come out of it:
*it would be safer. people would not have to buy from dealers where they didn't know where it had come from.
*there really won't be any dealers. do you see alcohol and cigarettes dealers on the the side of street? you don't
*there would be less pressure to do it
*while the police are busting the marijuana deal, they are missing the crack or herion deal over the next street (okay, that's an exaggeration)
they could focus on the bigger issues.
*taxes!
*cigarettes and alcohol do more damage than marijuana, but they are legal
*most people don't it to be 'cool'. everyone has different effects on it. some peopel said they do it because it helps them eat, sleep, foucus, and get rid of stress.
*illegal drugs are more tempting to do, well i think.
*free up jail cells

what do you think?

[ComradeRed]

Yes, but if you smoke it. The chemicals get air borne, so basically for those who don't want to inhale it, inhale it anyways.


Medicine gets abused even aspirin. Too much of anything can do more harm than good. Hey if they ever make marijuanna in pills, fine by me, they can use it to their heart's content. However, right now marijuanna is smoked, therefore the chemicals get in the air and into the lungs of others.

All that only happens if you smoke IN PUBLIC. In private -- that is, on your own property -- you should be allowed to smoke whatever you want. If someone breathes the smoke, that's because they chose to come to your property.

Why would they fine you if it was legal? Wouldn't you use it in public more often if it was legalized?

No. When somethings is illegal, it means you can't use it. Ever. And if you do, they can put you in jail. However, a township can enact a public air ordinance to prohibits smoking in public. As opposed to a penal law (which has the power to regulate what people do in their own homes and put them in jail), an ordinance doesn't govern people -- it governs land.

When a city passes a law making it so that you can be fined for smoking marijuana in public, it's like if a restaurant makes a rule that you can't smoke in the restaurant -- it's not making something illegal, it's just restricting what you can use on someone else's property (the city or restaurant).

Yes. Therefore it should be illegal. If it was legal, I don't get why the individuals who use marijuanna would be obligated to pay the fine. Only if it was illegal, then it would make sense.

I think there should be laws against the use of tobacco and even more laws for alchohol. Not alot of people are enforcing that a person shouldn't drive when they are intoxicated with alchohol, it should be regurlarly enforced. Tobacco should be deemed illegal.

The last time we deemed alcohol illegal, over 10 thousand Americans died every year because of it, while entire cities were head basically at gunpoint by corrupt crime bosses. The same thing is happening (albeit on a smaller scale) with the War on Drugs -- drug lords essentailly own poor inner-city areas, something that didn't happen before drugs were illegal. The same thing would happen with tobacc.

Penal law is designed to punish crime -- i.e. when you actively and intentionally hurt someone else. It's not designed for drugs. After all -- in common notions of justice, the punishment fits the crime (You commit murder, you are murdered, you rob, you pay back your victim). How would you have punishment fit the crime of doing drugs? You do drugs, you force others to do drugs?

A city should have the right to make people pay a fine for using marijuana IN PUBLIC -- but it is their own right to use it in private. By making a drug illegal, you are interferring with people's civil right to their own body, and their property right to do what they want ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

A local ordinance that puts a fine on public drunkenness is not the same as a national law abolishing alcohol. Similarly, I have no problem with a city deciding to not allow marijuana use on city property -- public roads, parks, etc.

It all comes down to property rights -- If you don't want someone to do drugs on your property, then don't let them. But you don't have the right to tell someone what they can do on THEIR property -- which is the key difference.