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Abortion., give me thoughts.
GothpunkGClover
post Jun 7 2004, 05:46 PM
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Is abortion right?
 
 
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*Kathleen*
post Aug 14 2004, 04:35 PM
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[quote]Not all women are released from captivity right away. I'm sure there are instances where kidnappers or rapists keep their victim with them for several days, if not weeks/months/years. [/quote]
I know, but I'm saying what about those that are only raped in one night?
[quote]I agree. But yeah that kinda is stereotype, not all people turn out that way but a majority does. [/quote]
I wouldn't call that a stereotype. I see a stereotype as "All goths are suicidal." It's what they're known for. When I said that, I was thinking about how parents pass down their beliefs to their children, and children usually take the same morals they're taught. How is that a stereotype? blink.gif
[quote]let's say a woman does get pregant.. and she realizes that she's unable to care for the baby.. don't most ppl learn from their mistakes? abortion gives some ppl a second chance.[/quote]
And sex addicts? Those that are going to have sex left and right and can't get enough of it? Once they get an abortion, they'll want to keep having sex and whatnot and I'm sure it won't phase them.
[quote]In some cases im against abortion and some i agree with abortion. For me, it depends on the scenario.

Say for instance a women gets raped. I would think she would have every right to get an abortion. It was not her choice to have sexual intercourse.

On the otherhand. If it was her choice to have sexual intercourse, i believe she should live with the responsibility of her actions. It's like killing a child because you made a mistake. In this case, abortion would seem like a "quick fix" and the woman would learn nothing from it.

But then again that's just my opinion. [/quote]
[quote]It depends if abortion is alright because if you get raped, then you do have the right to have it aborted, but then again if you chose to have sex and you're pregnant, then you should deal with it..

Agreed with wunkrazieepinoy [/quote]
Half of that child belongs to the mother, too, you know. I mean, it's just as if some pregnant teenager found out she was pregnant after she broke up with her boyfriend. The boyfriend won't support her, so she'll have to take care of it herself.
[quote]and in the cases of rape and/or sexual assault... I believe that since the person who got raped or sexually assaulted didn't choose to have sex, that then it's okay to get an abortion...[/quote]
Yes, but everyone's saying this. You can either have or not have abortion. I mean, just because the father was a criminal doesn't mean the child has to pay. I know that the mother would have to go through it, but it's her child as well.
[quote]ok i made a comment on abortion explaining how it is inexcusable in any sense in another topic, QUIT MAKING NEW TOPICS ON THE SAME THING, just comment in the old one. Things like this are spam to me. [/quote]
Yeah, I was wondering why the heck there's another thread on this. mellow.gif
[quote]I personally think it's okay. All of you out there who are saying it's murder, yes it IS murder and it is a living thing we're killing. But don't tell me you guys haven't killed anything like flies or anything. Why are you so worried about something that's being killed when it cannot even feel it? Do YOU remember how you felt when you were a fetus? I don't think so. So how do you know they can actually feel the pain? I don't see you guys arguing about killing other animals so why are you worried about killing a human baby thats not even fully developed yet and probably cannot feel what is happening yet.[/quote]
Mmm you're comparing flies to human beings? Furthermore, it's not the fact that they can't feel it, think about it not being able to fulfill it's life. Who knows. What would happen if our most famous presidents' mothers had an abortion? What if the next doctor to find a cure to AIDS is aborted? Hmm?
[quote]And yes, women don't have to do abortion. They can put the baby into adoption but imagine if everyone who had a baby did that. Not all of those kiddys are going to be adopted. SOme of them are going to be orphaned. And not all those kiddys are going to go into a great family and forever wonder who their real parents are and why they didn't want them. Those of you who are adopted into a good family, good for you. But that is not the case for everyone. Some can lead a miserable life instead and you can't promise that won't happen. It could've been better off without them spending their whole life wondering about what could've once been.[/quote]
Meh I've said this so many times before, but I'll say it again. Okay, so do you remember what happens when we people in the United States turn eighteen? That's right. We get to live our own lives. We're free. We can go out into the world and make something of ourselves. We can live better lives if we work hard enough. Those kids that stay in orphanages probably have even more of a drive to make something of themselves and be happy one day. They have their whole lives ahead of them.
[quote]And it IS the woman's decision whether or not to have sex. If she did it for the pleasure for it with a guy she trusted, then yes. SHe does deserve to have that baby and should not be allowed the privilage of abortion. However, like you all said, everyone deserves second chances. SO why not the mother too? If she did it over and over then she deserves it. If it was her first time, then shouldnt she deserve a second chance too?[/quote]
So because you were happy for that period of time, it gives you the right to kill a human fetus?
[quote]But sometimes even if it IS the girl's choice, she should be allowed it. Because look at the world today. Theres peer pressure, rape, television, etc. Don't tell me none of you guys gave in to peer pressure ever before because Im sure as a teen, it's hard not to. Just because that one girl's decision to give in to those things or have rape happen to them is worse than yours, doesn't mean they DESERVE it. THey too can regret it[/quote]
How many health classes are there in schools today that tell you how to have protected sex? They can still have "fun" if they wear a condom. That is their fault for not wearing one.
 

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GothpunkGClover   Abortion.   Jun 7 2004, 05:46 PM
Kathleen   It depends on how you're brought up. Everyone...   Jun 7 2004, 05:50 PM
krnxswat   Please refer to this thread.   Jun 7 2004, 05:59 PM
Kathleen   Actually, I think this should stay open because it...   Jun 7 2004, 06:06 PM
krnxswat   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 7 2004, 7:06 PM)Actually...   Jun 7 2004, 06:07 PM
Kathleen   Hmm...I wish the person who started this thread wo...   Jun 7 2004, 06:10 PM
krnxswat   Yeah; where are you GothpunkGClover!?   Jun 7 2004, 06:11 PM
ComradeRed   Classify abortion as a sufficient reason in accord...   Jun 7 2004, 06:16 PM
xtremeliquid   I don't think it is right for many reasons.   Jun 7 2004, 06:24 PM
juliar   QUOTE(xtremeliquid @ Jun 7 2004, 7:24 PM)I do...   Jun 7 2004, 06:26 PM
GothpunkGClover   lol sorry sorry, Yeah it is different. I am a uniq...   Jun 8 2004, 12:20 AM
TiNaBaBY074   i dont think its right because why should someone ...   Jun 8 2004, 01:58 AM
Retrogressive   its murder, just like murder someone older. it...   Jun 8 2004, 12:38 PM
angel-roh   WELL HAVING AN AB0RTI0N IS LIKE KILLING UR 0WN CHI...   Jun 8 2004, 12:44 PM
iheartsimba   depends on the circumstances. honestly i don...   Jun 8 2004, 12:44 PM
NvieDi3ai3yGrL   i don't think it's wrong. before it even b...   Jun 8 2004, 12:59 PM
TiNaBaBY074   QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ Jun 8 2004, 10:38 AM)yo...   Jun 8 2004, 02:31 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEi don't think it's wrong. before it e...   Jun 8 2004, 04:47 PM
LiNHy POO   i think its wrong... you're killing sumthing b...   Jun 8 2004, 10:41 PM
Spirited Away   Morally speaking, abortion is wrong. But when you ...   Jun 8 2004, 10:44 PM
TiNaBaBY074   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 8 2004, 8:44 PM)Mor...   Jun 9 2004, 06:44 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(TiNaBaBY074 @ Jun 9 2004, 6:44 AM)if th...   Jun 9 2004, 09:39 AM
princess2113   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 9 2004, 9:39 AM)The...   Jun 9 2004, 11:15 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 9 2004, 11:15 AM)eww...   Jun 9 2004, 11:19 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEIt's too late to get any sort of day-afte...   Jun 9 2004, 11:25 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 9 2004, 11:25 AM)Why did...   Jun 9 2004, 11:27 AM
swtpumkinpie   my opinion on this is: you knew what you were gett...   Jun 9 2004, 01:55 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(swtpumkinpie @ Jun 9 2004, 1:55 PM)the ...   Jun 9 2004, 02:07 PM
easilyxamusedx   i sort of swing both ways. but if i had to chose...   Jun 9 2004, 02:14 PM
justbecausexx   it depends on the person. it's that women...   Jun 9 2004, 04:55 PM
onenonly101   I believe abortion is wrong, because it comes back...   Jun 9 2004, 05:19 PM
ComradeRed   A cause, by definition, is something that leads in...   Jun 9 2004, 05:27 PM
onenonly101   Yes but the baby in question wouldn't be if th...   Jun 9 2004, 05:31 PM
ComradeRed   That's a misuse of language. The man is a forc...   Jun 9 2004, 05:36 PM
onenonly101   No, the baby is not the cause, the baby is factor...   Jun 9 2004, 05:43 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 9 2004, 5:19 PM)I bel...   Jun 9 2004, 05:45 PM
onenonly101   QUOTEBut in the raped woman's case (with aids)...   Jun 9 2004, 06:02 PM
ComradeRed   The man might have caused teh baby, but the baby i...   Jun 9 2004, 06:07 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 9 2004, 6:02 PM)Yeah ...   Jun 9 2004, 06:12 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 8 2004, 4:47 PM)How woul...   Jun 9 2004, 06:16 PM
ComradeRed   Why is it bad to be selfish? Democracy, at least ...   Jun 9 2004, 06:17 PM
princess2113   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 9 2004, 6:12 PM)Hav...   Jun 10 2004, 08:54 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 10 2004, 8:54 PM)not...   Jun 10 2004, 09:42 PM
TiNaBaBY074   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 9 2004, 12:07 PM) ...   Jun 11 2004, 01:09 AM
ComradeRed   So you did that. Why should you force others to do...   Jun 11 2004, 08:54 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(TiNaBaBY074 @ Jun 11 2004, 1:09 AM)no.....   Jun 11 2004, 09:16 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEIt might be too late by the time he's thr...   Jun 11 2004, 11:28 AM
TiNaBaBY074   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 11 2004, 6:54 AM)So yo...   Jun 11 2004, 06:48 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEWhy is it bad to be selfish? It's bad to ...   Jun 11 2004, 08:27 PM
ComradeRed   No, progress is the result of people being selfish...   Jun 11 2004, 08:34 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 11 2004, 11:28 AM)I mean...   Jun 11 2004, 08:49 PM
forgottenrazor   hmm,i think that woman should have the choice in w...   Jul 11 2004, 05:48 PM
JlIaTMK   abortion.... i dont think its right but kathleen.....   Jul 12 2004, 01:29 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 7 2004, 3:50 PM)It depen...   Jul 12 2004, 08:35 PM
islandkiss   what if a woman was raped and abortion was illegal...   Jul 12 2004, 10:07 PM
aGAinSHexscrEmS   ABORTION IS MURDER!! i suppose i kind of u...   Jul 15 2004, 12:31 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(aGAinSHexscrEmS @ Jul 15 2004, 12:31 PM...   Jul 15 2004, 01:05 PM
Sumiaki   In some cases im against abortion and some i agree...   Jul 15 2004, 01:15 PM
sweetdreamsx3   It depends if abortion is alright because if you g...   Aug 12 2004, 09:33 PM
leeeza702   QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ Jun 8 2004, 12:38 PM)it...   Aug 13 2004, 05:18 AM
mizz_mithy   i see both sides. if u have unprotected sex that ...   Aug 13 2004, 01:02 PM
slurp   im really against it, i mean if youre not going to...   Aug 13 2004, 07:16 PM
sikdragon   ok i made a comment on abortion explaining how it ...   Aug 14 2004, 05:54 AM
s0emotionalx3   I personally think it's okay. All of you out t...   Aug 14 2004, 04:06 PM
sporadic   Using a condom is just like abortion. imagine all ...   Aug 14 2004, 04:28 PM
Kathleen   I know, but I'm saying what about those that ...   Aug 14 2004, 04:35 PM
sporadic   I get what you're saying. I think abortion sho...   Aug 14 2004, 04:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Aug 14 2004, 4:35 PM)Yes, bu...   Aug 14 2004, 05:00 PM
MyVermilionPlague   Hm. I'm kind of iffy on abortion. I think the...   Aug 14 2004, 05:03 PM
s0emotionalx3   QUOTEMmm you're comparing flies to human being...   Aug 14 2004, 05:04 PM
sporadic   QUOTEWhat would happen if our most famous presiden...   Aug 14 2004, 05:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 14 2004, 5:08 PM)...   Aug 14 2004, 05:12 PM
sporadic   What if some future terrorist was supposed to be b...   Aug 14 2004, 05:14 PM
sikdragon   what?? if the second coming of hitler comes? what ...   Aug 15 2004, 03:37 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEAnd what about those who aren't adopted a...   Aug 15 2004, 10:51 AM
Tag_youre_it   well. Abortion is okay when you think that having ...   Aug 15 2004, 03:15 PM
mouse_3k   for me, its right and wrong. i mean maybe the moth...   Aug 17 2004, 03:55 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEbut it is wrong if you are gunna just abort t...   Aug 17 2004, 05:32 PM
is2diexd   Well i think the situation as alot to do with if i...   Aug 17 2004, 05:39 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEand i don't those people on the street sh...   Aug 17 2004, 05:42 PM


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