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What really pisses me off..., Ugh
*CrackedRearView*
post Jul 6 2004, 03:10 AM
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I find it increasingly annoying the sheer amount of people who feel offended by the Vice President's actions and his company.

Here's an example quote, from my friend Jess (a staunch anti-Bush liberal):

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Yeah and companies like the one run by our VP are reaping all the nebenfits of the war, which is a bunch of crap.


And I keep hearing comments along these lines, and I've finally had enough.

I know the ideology of the democrat is to support the individual working man, and to protect the establishment of small businesses. And I wish them all the best when pursuing that ideal, but give me a break...

Would the democrats of the United States suggest we take small, private/family owned businesses and ship them to Iraq to build an entire country? There are two main facts you're simply going to have to deal with...

1) The industry is all about capability. Small businesses lack the capability to handle such a grand task. The honest truth is that companies such as GE, Halliburton, and Dresser Industries are the infrastructure companies who can handle projects of this magnitude, not "Big Jim's electric", or "Johnson Family Natural Gas".

2)Cheney makes money in Iraq, and hundreds of other places, too. ***NEWSFLASH*** dit, dit, dit: Cheney's making money here, too. You know, chances are that when your house is warmed up by gas, your business lit up from a power grid, or you even fill up your SUV at Texaco, Halliburton or Dresser Industries played a big part in the pump existing. You put money in Cheney's pocket everyday, and that's been the situation for years. We call that a monopoly, which is a subdivision of capitalism; the financial basis of this country. Get over it, and let the men do their jobs. Heaven forbid they make some money...

As if the VP's company making money off the war is even a substantial issue, anyway. You don't like it? Don't stay here.

That's one of your freedoms, too. I suggest you utilize it.
 
 
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post Aug 11 2004, 03:20 PM
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do you want to know why i should give a damn? because, in 3 year, i have to go to the post office to sign up for the draft. so i can die in a stupid, F---ing war for oil.


Oh, and I just had a few more things to say concerning this quote.

Lindsey Williams wrote a book in 1980 called The Energy Non-Crisis based on his eye-witness acount during the construction of the Trans-Alaska Pipeline.

The book quotes,

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"All of our energy problems could have been solved in the '70s with the huge discovery of oil under Gull Island, Prudhoe Bay, Alaska," Williams said. "There is more pure grade oil there than in all of Sau di Arabia. Gull Island contains as much oil and natural gas as Americans could use in 200 years."


Environmentalists have been urging to close down any further tamperings with the Alaskan environment.Well, the book continues with:

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"The Alaska Fish and Game Depart ment just did a study on the por cupine car i bou in Prudhoe Bay. The size of the herds has increased since 1969 by 35 percent. The pipeline area is a protected designation and the caribou have figured this out. They have migrated into this area for protection," Lawler [ARCO oil production manager] said.


Listen, sadolakced, our government isn't stupid, in fact, it's quite the contrary.

It's called exploitation. We use up the rest of the world's oil, before tapping into our own.

The war's not about oil -- if we desperately needed it, we'd look in our backyard.
 

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CrackedRearView   What really pisses me off...   Jul 6 2004, 03:10 AM
angel-roh   hmm i read the whole thing cause since ppls didnt ...   Jul 8 2004, 12:18 PM
xHalf nHalf   eh, too lazy to read the whole post..thats really ...   Jul 8 2004, 01:23 PM
kryogenix   yeah, i'm angry at all of this bs "RICH M...   Jul 8 2004, 01:28 PM
onenonly101   Yeah the deomocrats are for the poor man but they ...   Jul 8 2004, 01:43 PM
ComradeRed   The difference between most democrats and most rep...   Jul 8 2004, 03:48 PM
JlIaTMK   I say go for the Green Party.... wait i forgot wha...   Jul 8 2004, 03:54 PM
joanna0304   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 8 2004, 1:28 PM)yeah, i...   Jul 8 2004, 09:26 PM
CrackedRearView   I just find it an ignorant argument, and one that ...   Jul 9 2004, 11:46 AM
sadolakced acid   somehow i find that when cheny filed his taxes, hi...   Aug 2 2004, 09:33 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEsomehow i find that when cheny filed his taxe...   Aug 5 2004, 02:58 PM
sadolakced acid   and... let's see.... energy companies... ene...   Aug 5 2004, 04:15 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEand... let's see.... energy companies... ...   Aug 5 2004, 05:18 PM
SH0RTAYE   im part of the independence party ! heheh ....   Aug 6 2004, 04:08 PM
ComradeRed   What is the Independence Party? Do you mean the C...   Aug 6 2004, 04:18 PM
LaRevolucion   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 5 2004, 4:15 PM)a...   Aug 6 2004, 10:29 PM
EmeraldKnight   lol sadly.. democracy in our country's taken a...   Aug 7 2004, 12:48 AM
highly_evolved   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 5 2004, 4:15 PM)a...   Aug 7 2004, 05:33 AM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEand... let's see.... energy companies... ...   Aug 11 2004, 03:11 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEdo you want to know why i should give a damn?...   Aug 11 2004, 03:20 PM
sadolakced acid   what exactly is this war about then? i'm s...   Aug 11 2004, 09:58 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEproperties in washington, iowa, virgina, texa...   Aug 11 2004, 10:47 PM
F1R3B4T   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 8 2004, 1:28 PM)yeah, i...   Aug 12 2004, 02:43 AM
Ze world is a Mask   err   Aug 13 2004, 07:16 PM


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