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Jesus, God's son.
Devastation
post Aug 8 2004, 06:20 PM
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i am a bit confused on this subject, i need some opinions on JESUS, god has had enough attenmtion, jesus is the one i need answers on.
 
 
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danyo
post Aug 11 2004, 03:13 AM
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i am a christian but i don't believe in the trinity but at the same time i don't reject it simply because i don't know what to believe.
i have read that in the original hebrew bible the trinity part didnt exist until later, catholics added it in but the information i read could also be wrong.
so its still a question for me and i believe it will always be until judgement day where i get to see him face to face and ask him or see for myself but im more on the side where i dont believe it's true right now.
i've asked a few christian friends myself if i could get an explaination of the whole trinity thing but they would try and fail then say, just read the bible or attend bible studies.
why would people explain it as the father and son and the holy spirit then later say they are one? there is a father and son, yet they are one. if they are one, the son would not be a son.. they would both be the same, no? if it just means that Jesus is a human form of God, why don't they just say THAT instead of calling Him the son? Also, God made Jesus right? so wouldn't God have somewhat a bit more power than Jesus and over Jesus? i mean.. cmon.. Jesus calls God the father.. Jesus? God? already sound different.. God sounds more powerful
and Jesus followed God's plan when He came down to be crucified as the living sacrifice for everyone. So Jesus followed God. and also, Jesus spoke to God when He was about to die right and GO INTO HIS HANDS? so if they are ONE, who He speaking to and going into His own hands? I would understand if that's just a saying to say that the father, son, and the holy spirit are holy and God is in them but them being one, i don't understand..
Also the rest of the bible doesn't seem to go with the whole trinity thing.
and again, im not saying the trinity is wrong, im just saying all the things that keeps me from believing it and for you people to answer it for me (:
i'm not against it.
 

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Devastation   Jesus   Aug 8 2004, 06:20 PM
sadolakced acid   jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to ...   Aug 8 2004, 06:32 PM
F1R3B4T   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 8 2004, 6:32 PM)j...   Aug 8 2004, 07:14 PM
sadolakced acid   yes, to me the trinity thing is quite confusing. ...   Aug 8 2004, 07:39 PM
Sumiaki   Basicaly Jesus is the son of God by the Virgin Mar...   Aug 9 2004, 10:37 AM
masu_misairu   QUOTEthere's the trinity- god is the father, t...   Aug 9 2004, 06:48 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 8 2004, 6:32 PM)j...   Aug 9 2004, 06:59 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEMade sense to me Haha same here. So did they ...   Aug 9 2004, 07:38 PM
CloudUnionX   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 8 2004, 6:32 PM)t...   Aug 9 2004, 11:41 PM
tootsie_kiddo   this whole thread has mucked up my already mucked ...   Aug 10 2004, 04:12 AM
Fashionista225   I'm a christian..I understand how it works but...   Aug 10 2004, 11:05 PM
elmogurly   anyone ever heard of the bridge diagram? God is...   Aug 11 2004, 12:12 AM
danyo   i am a christian but i don't believe in the tr...   Aug 11 2004, 03:13 AM
Fashionista225   The bible COMPLETELY goes by the "whole trini...   Aug 11 2004, 12:03 PM
danyo   umm i thought the holy spirit is a obvious so did ...   Aug 11 2004, 03:44 PM
black_cloud10   ok i only read like half of these answers cuz they...   Aug 11 2004, 03:58 PM
Fashionista225   Just because God put Jesus there doesn't make ...   Aug 11 2004, 10:23 PM
lilteardrop   this site hasnt exactly started. maybe once it get...   Aug 12 2004, 02:49 PM
sadolakced acid   is it possible... that they killed the wrong je...   Aug 12 2004, 09:00 PM
someflipguy   There is no true explaination to the question...al...   Aug 13 2004, 10:53 AM
sikdragon   Jesus is the way the truth and the life. The son o...   Aug 14 2004, 06:00 AM
xnastyninjagrlx   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 12 2004, 9:00 PM)...   Aug 17 2004, 01:55 PM
Mini   In one of the movies I saw, Jesus said that no one...   Aug 17 2004, 10:19 PM
raw_material   im a christian il explain and not confuse u pple.....   Aug 17 2004, 10:28 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 17 2004, 10:19 PM)In one of ...   Aug 17 2004, 10:33 PM
Mini   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 17 2004, 10:28 PM)im...   Aug 17 2004, 10:34 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 17 2004, 10:34 PM)God didn...   Aug 17 2004, 10:43 PM
raw_material   im a christian il explain and not confuse u pple.....   Aug 17 2004, 10:48 PM
Mini   I'm Buddhist so I really don't have the Bi...   Aug 17 2004, 10:53 PM
angel-roh   Jesus is the son of God's...period   Aug 17 2004, 10:59 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 17 2004, 10:53 PM)I'm Bu...   Aug 17 2004, 11:33 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 17 2004, 10:53 PM)I'm Bu...   Aug 17 2004, 11:37 PM
Mini   First off, Buddha isn't a God. Many believed t...   Aug 17 2004, 11:42 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 17 2004, 11:42 PM)First off,...   Aug 17 2004, 11:50 PM
Mini   lol. Sorry if you thought I was mad, I wasn't.   Aug 17 2004, 11:54 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 17 2004, 11:54 PM)lol. Sorry...   Aug 18 2004, 12:00 AM
Mini   Yeah, I understand I was just confused about the T...   Aug 18 2004, 12:21 AM
sikdragon   well the movie is just a movie. the bible is what ...   Aug 18 2004, 09:53 AM
Mini   God can not write the Bible if God does not have c...   Aug 18 2004, 10:01 AM
raw_material   god talked 2 the men that wrote the bible and tol...   Aug 18 2004, 10:07 AM
sporadic   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 8 2004, 6:32 PM)j...   Aug 18 2004, 10:12 AM
raw_material   lets make this quick...if u dont believe in god......   Aug 18 2004, 10:16 AM
sporadic   I believe that if you truly think about it, there ...   Aug 18 2004, 10:17 AM
sikdragon   that is where faith comes in.   Aug 18 2004, 10:20 AM
raw_material   so if god doesnt excist...who created us and the e...   Aug 18 2004, 10:21 AM
sporadic   It's strange, because though I believe in supe...   Aug 18 2004, 10:22 AM
Spirited Away   ^ If you all want to discuss God's existence/n...   Aug 18 2004, 10:23 AM
sikdragon   no dont say thanks were not gonna do that, God is ...   Aug 18 2004, 10:24 AM
Spirited Away   MmKthx. I'll just post over the responses ov...   Aug 18 2004, 10:28 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 10:22 AM...   Aug 18 2004, 10:29 AM
sporadic   Who you callin mindless? >.< Okay then, to ...   Aug 18 2004, 10:29 AM
sikdragon   uninspiredfae u are so closed minded it is sick. t...   Aug 18 2004, 10:32 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 10:29 AM...   Aug 18 2004, 10:33 AM
sporadic   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 18 2004, 10:29 AM)ev...   Aug 18 2004, 10:36 AM
sikdragon   a theory being an explanation of a phenomenon then...   Aug 18 2004, 10:43 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 10:32 AM)unins...   Aug 18 2004, 10:45 AM
sikdragon   rude begats rude. actually i wasnt that rude in my...   Aug 18 2004, 10:46 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 10:46 AM)rude ...   Aug 18 2004, 10:49 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 18 2004, 10:45 AM)H...   Aug 18 2004, 10:50 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 18 2004, 10:50 AM)ho...   Aug 18 2004, 10:52 AM
raw_material   Whoa i feel stupid lol ...my bad nevermind that ...   Aug 18 2004, 10:54 AM
sporadic   Adding "Thanks for being rude, it shows how m...   Aug 18 2004, 10:55 AM
sikdragon   its not silk. and its not my opinion it is the opi...   Aug 18 2004, 10:57 AM
sporadic   Everyone may believe in a higher power, but not ev...   Aug 18 2004, 10:59 AM
sikdragon   there is only one higher power and he has many nam...   Aug 18 2004, 11:01 AM
sporadic   In your opinion.   Aug 18 2004, 11:02 AM
raw_material   every one has there own opinions in life....god sa...   Aug 18 2004, 11:03 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 10:55 AM...   Aug 18 2004, 11:05 AM
sporadic   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 18 2004, 11:03 AM)ev...   Aug 18 2004, 11:08 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 11:08 AM...   Aug 18 2004, 11:09 AM
raw_material   the bible says those who believe that jesus died i...   Aug 18 2004, 11:10 AM
Spirited Away   Going to Heaven only applies if you believe you wi...   Aug 18 2004, 11:11 AM
sikdragon   God says that, non-believers will burn in eternal ...   Aug 18 2004, 11:12 AM
sikdragon   Doesnt matter if they believe there is a place eve...   Aug 18 2004, 11:13 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 18 2004, 11:11 AM)G...   Aug 18 2004, 11:14 AM
sikdragon   amen brother.   Aug 18 2004, 11:15 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 11:13 AM)Doesn...   Aug 18 2004, 11:16 AM
sporadic   I believe in the concept of reincarnation, because...   Aug 18 2004, 11:17 AM
raw_material   your right this is not wat all life is...theres mo...   Aug 18 2004, 11:20 AM
sikdragon   This isnt all life is, There will be a feast for t...   Aug 18 2004, 11:24 AM
Mini   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 11:24 AM)This ...   Aug 18 2004, 11:26 AM
raw_material   nice!!! like i said he who believes j...   Aug 18 2004, 11:28 AM
sporadic   I question a lot about god and christianity, not n...   Aug 18 2004, 11:28 AM
sikdragon   jealousy isnt a sin, to covet something someone el...   Aug 18 2004, 11:29 AM
sikdragon   did we all like reply at the same time?   Aug 18 2004, 11:30 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(Mini @ Aug 18 2004, 11:26 AM)God gets j...   Aug 18 2004, 11:31 AM
raw_material   QUOTE(Thradrien_Blake @ Aug 18 2004, 11:28 AM...   Aug 18 2004, 11:33 AM
sikdragon   amen   Aug 18 2004, 11:34 AM
raw_material   what happend the topic died   Aug 18 2004, 11:43 AM
sporadic   We moved on to hell ^_^   Aug 18 2004, 11:52 AM
raw_material   yea i noticed lol..thanks 4 the reply lol   Aug 18 2004, 12:04 PM
sikdragon   well this one was about Jesus.   Aug 18 2004, 12:13 PM
sporadic   I'm not sure what's not to understand abou...   Aug 18 2004, 12:14 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sikdragon @ Aug 18 2004, 11:12 AM)God s...   Aug 18 2004, 12:16 PM
raw_material   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 18 2004, 12:16 PM)A...   Aug 18 2004, 12:20 PM
sikdragon   lol he gave us free will and wants you to love him...   Aug 18 2004, 12:22 PM
raw_material   "QUOTE so ur saying if u believe out of the...   Aug 18 2004, 12:22 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(raw_material @ Aug 18 2004, 12:20 PM)wh...   Aug 18 2004, 12:23 PM
sporadic   Who will I see in hell.. Hm.. My parents, for star...   Aug 18 2004, 12:26 PM
sikdragon   God is omnipotent, he created his humans and CHOSE...   Aug 18 2004, 12:27 PM
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