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 Jul 24 2004, 10:20 PM
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There are many many people who think that the holocaust was a hoax and there are also people who think that the americans and the other allies did not help soon enough. what is your opinion on this?
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Jul 26 2004, 04:41 PM
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Hmm...
I think the world would be much like it is now, only with economic power more concentrated in the Far East than in Europe. Think about it: The Soviet Union collapsed from within. Why? Not because of military might -- because its government became too oppressive and at the same time the leaders became too weak. Nazi Germany and the USSR would have balanced each other out. Eventually they would have to arrive at some sort of peace, at which time the Cold War would begin -- only between the Nazis and Soviets. Eventually, both nations would have collapsed for that reason -- dictatorships never end well. The first dictator is always the strongest, but after that they become weaker and weaker. Hitler would have been replaced by Goering, who quite frankly was an incomptetent fool. Goering eventually would have led to democratic resistance uprisings in France and Italy (in August '43, Southern Italy declared itself independent of the rest of Italy and declared war on Mussolini -- this is a month before the Allies landed in Italy). I could see the collapse of Nazi Germany as early as 1980. It is harder to coordinate a revolution in Russia, so the USSR would probably have lasted until as early as 1985 and as late as 2000. Remember that Gorbachev was a very open minded but weak leader, who basically saw that the USSR could not last and broke it up into the CIS. Under these situations, Russia would be basically the same today as it would be in the alternate history. In fact, the only area that would be significantly different under my alternate history would be Western Europe (France/Germany/Italy), which would likely be economically much weaker, but socially still similar, although Germany might be slightly more repressive than it is today. But still, it wouldn't be our fight. |
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Gypsy Eyes Holocaust Jul 24 2004, 10:20 PM
Gypsy Eyes QUOTE(Arimalka @ Jul 24 2004, 10:24 PM)My gra... Jul 24 2004, 10:29 PM masu_misairu my family never had to go through that tragedy, bu... Jul 24 2004, 10:35 PM jo3 who would be cruel enough to make something up lik... Jul 24 2004, 11:47 PM xBitterxSweetx a hoax? is that a joke? the holocaust killed milli... Jul 25 2004, 01:12 AM islandkiss why would anyone want to make up something so horr... Jul 25 2004, 10:40 AM rnrn897 a hoax? who the heck thinks that..
and yea the us... Jul 26 2004, 03:12 PM ComradeRed Actually a lot of groups think it's a hoax.
I... Jul 26 2004, 04:25 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 26 2004, 4:25 PM)Actua... Jul 26 2004, 04:35 PM Devastation holocaust, no it wasnt a hoax, for many reasons at... Jul 26 2004, 04:42 PM iwalkbackwards My whole family escaped from Germany right before ... Mar 18 2005, 10:27 AM
Rachel is love QUOTE(iwalkbackwards @ Mar 18 2005, 8:27 AM)I... Mar 19 2005, 12:11 PM
sammi rules you QUOTE(iwalkbackwards @ Mar 18 2005, 9:27 AM)O... Mar 20 2005, 01:38 PM racoons > you o fcourse it wasnt a hoax thats ludicrous.
nad th... Mar 18 2005, 12:34 PM M1SSxCHR1SSY ^Agreed. It's ludicrous to think that the Halo... Mar 18 2005, 01:15 PM Teesa I agree with james..I cannot even begin to compreh... Mar 18 2005, 02:03 PM sammi rules you oh yea, the holocaust is so not true. cause my gre... Mar 18 2005, 04:51 PM sadolakced acid some people refuse to believe something that horri... Mar 19 2005, 02:30 AM racoons > you ^^
lol. of course, crack doesn't really exist... Mar 19 2005, 08:53 AM xcaitlinx how can the HOLOCAUST be a publicity hoax? To me, ... Mar 19 2005, 06:52 PM Frankie i think that the holocaust was real and i think th... Mar 19 2005, 06:57 PM Aesirus Germany was having trouble
What a sad, sad story
N... Mar 20 2005, 04:27 PM monde libre QUOTE(Aesirus @ Mar 20 2005, 4:27 PM)Germany ... Mar 26 2005, 02:59 PM sammi rules you minda, you're the biggest dork i've ever k... Mar 20 2005, 05:16 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 20 2005, 5:16 PM)... Mar 22 2005, 06:56 PM sammi rules you QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Mar 22 2005, 5:56 PM)I ... Mar 23 2005, 04:54 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 23 2005, 4:54 PM)... Mar 23 2005, 09:34 PM Aesirus But it's Springtime for Hitler! Mar 21 2005, 07:37 PM Rachel is love ^ilovethatmovie...and not using the spacebar =) Mar 21 2005, 09:03 PM chaneun the holocaust is bad.
:( Mar 21 2005, 09:24 PM iwalkbackwards I'm saying the people in the concentration cam... Mar 21 2005, 09:34 PM Rachel is love QUOTE(iwalkbackwards @ Mar 21 2005, 7:34 PM)I... Mar 22 2005, 03:09 PM iwalkbackwards QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Mar 22 2005, 4:09 PM)it ... Mar 22 2005, 03:13 PM Rachel is love QUOTE(iwalkbackwards @ Mar 22 2005, 1:13 PM)I... Mar 22 2005, 03:16 PM iwalkbackwards QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Mar 22 2005, 4:16 PM)wel... Mar 22 2005, 03:43 PM ermfermoo QUOTE(iwalkbackwards @ Mar 22 2005, 3:13 PM)I... Mar 22 2005, 06:59 PM Aesirus QUOTE(xxcrazyjewxx @ Mar 22 2005, 4:09 PM)it ... Mar 23 2005, 07:41 PM racoons > you QUOTEthe holocaust is bad.
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yes dear. almost a... Mar 22 2005, 12:09 PM sammi rules you QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Mar 22 2005, 11:09 ... Mar 22 2005, 05:47 PM xcaitlinx QUOTE(touch my monkey @ Mar 22 2005, 5:47 PM)... Mar 23 2005, 10:11 PM tungtwista stupid ignorant people who thinks its a hoax. how... Mar 22 2005, 03:18 PM ohh_so_elektrikk<3 QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jul 24 2004, 10:20 PM)Ther... Mar 22 2005, 03:53 PM mirage well, genocide/holocaust is still happening in tod... Mar 22 2005, 06:09 PM Rachel is love ^while that is true, the debate is not about genoc... Mar 22 2005, 06:21 PM b0st0ngrl I don't see why people think this is a hoax. M... Mar 23 2005, 10:14 PM Loff This sounds like a one sided arguement, with mild ... Mar 24 2005, 12:54 AM sadolakced acid ok, for the sake of debate i will argue that it di... Mar 24 2005, 01:02 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 24 2005, 1:02 AM)... Mar 24 2005, 01:05 AM Loff ^ and paste it every other line. Then add the word... Mar 24 2005, 01:08 AM Spirited Away ^ you haven't seen how far a person will hold ... Mar 24 2005, 01:22 AM Loff my humor is more obscure :) Mar 24 2005, 01:53 AM racoons > you QUOTEhowever: why did the allies only learn about ... Mar 24 2005, 08:47 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(MarchHare2UrAlice @ Mar 24 2005, 7:47 A... Mar 24 2005, 12:06 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Mar 24 2005, 12:06 PM... Mar 26 2005, 12:58 PM racoons > you im sure individua lamerican troops were surprised ... Mar 24 2005, 12:10 PM mirage QUOTE^while that is true, the debate is not about ... Mar 24 2005, 04:32 PM kisstharingz QUOTE(mirage @ Mar 24 2005, 4:32 PM)The Holoc... Mar 25 2005, 02:39 PM sammi rules you they knew they were rounding them up and taking th... Mar 24 2005, 04:46 PM Loff we didnt really know what was going over there. T... Mar 25 2005, 10:48 PM bookwurm i belive that the holocaust was real.
Actually, i... Jun 12 2005, 05:34 PM crayonzUpMyNose of course it happened Jun 12 2005, 08:44 PM |
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