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Jul 1 2004, 08:04 PM
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is it fair that non-christians celebrate christmas with presents and christmas trees? i can't stand it when people openly say how they hate religion and christianity, then come christmas time, they brag about their christmas presents. that goes for easter too. people openly reject jesus christ's resurrection but they celebrate easter. and to add insult to injury, they completely change the meaning by having egghunts and bunnies.
-edit- uh yeah. you can't have it both ways! either become a christian and partake in our holidays, or stay an atheist/agnostic and don't celebrate our holidays, and don't change our holidays either! |
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Jul 19 2004, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 19 2004, 2:13 PM) When i was quoting the other person i wasn't talking about the topic's arguemnt. I was just asking for them to show respect or atleast stop trying to belittle my faith and God. Because of what they said and also other things they have said about God and things. I don't ask anyone to believe or to love God i just ask for people to respect other people and what they believe. I have gotten so fed up with people calling my religion stupid, and meaningless, and that i'm not bright for believing in God. Some people might say that is a stupid reason to get upset over but i love God and my Christianity therefore i take it serious and am passionate about it. You do realize that we're all stupid in our own ways. I know I am for believing the things I do, because like you, I have no "facts" nor "proof" for what I say, I only say them confidently out of faith. That's something we have in common right? Faith? In face of religion, there are three kinds of people: the believers, non-belivers, and the people in between (who don't care for either). (There may be others, but I'm just talking in the broad sense). Non-believers and believers will bash each other. You may not be included in those numbers of bashers, but you know the truth is that there is no escaping criticism by people in religion and people out of it. I come to this board to debate about God because I'm sick and tired of being criticized about my concepts in real life. It's so crazy that I had a relationship go haywire because of religion. I can almost say that I despise it. Anyway, I'm just as passionate in my beliefs as you are in yours. I don't tell people that I hate them because of their beliefs, I tell them I hate them because they don't respect the fact that they believe one thing's right and say that what I believe in is wrong. I respect you and other Christians enough to the point of saying that your belief may be the right one, but I hold true to the belief that mine may be right as well. No one is bright for believing something "unproven", and every single person breathing on this earth is guilty of that. But you love God, and I love giving and accept presents on holidays no matter the occasion, religious or not. You can pray and have fun, and I can have fun in my own way. If God truly means for us to have free will, then He cannot hate or be mad at me for living as He wished me to be. And if He's not mad at me, why should you or any other Christian/Catholic be? |
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kryogenix you can't have it both ways! Jul 1 2004, 08:04 PM
JlIaTMK wow kinda abrupt.... Christmas has become a nation... Jul 2 2004, 07:06 PM
XaZnX07 wow you are really offended by this sorry you feel... Jul 2 2004, 07:13 PM
Spirited Away My family doesn't celebrate Christmas and we d... Jul 2 2004, 08:53 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 2 2004, 8:53 PM)My ... Jul 2 2004, 09:33 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 9:33 PM)Good fo... Jul 2 2004, 09:42 PM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEBut you know what, Christmas is not so attach... Jul 2 2004, 11:55 PM
ryfitaDF so santa claus and the easter bunny have ANYTHING ... Jul 3 2004, 12:18 AM
Rock_Lee QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 1 2004, 8:04 PM)is it f... Jul 3 2004, 12:20 AM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEso santa claus and the easter bunny have ANYT... Jul 3 2004, 12:21 AM
MyVermilionPlague This is a rather difficult topic..
Christmas has ... Jul 3 2004, 06:34 AM
kryogenix I'm fine with the gift giving, santa claus and... Jul 3 2004, 10:59 AM
onenonly101 Exactly. I hate when people twist holidays and try... Jul 3 2004, 11:05 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 3 2004, 11:05 AM)Exac... Jul 3 2004, 12:21 PM
MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 3 2004, 10:59 AM)I... Jul 3 2004, 01:08 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(InTheMudHole @ Jul 3 2004, 1:08 PM)Yeah... Jul 3 2004, 01:10 PM
MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 1:10 PM)Pff... Jul 3 2004, 01:38 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(InTheMudHole @ Jul 3 2004, 1:38 PM)Just... Jul 3 2004, 07:49 PM
ComradeRed Christmas has a secular side too.
THe way I see i... Jul 3 2004, 09:23 PM
x hYpErRoSeY x thatz definatley unfair n ur really upset bout thi... Jul 3 2004, 09:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(x hYpErRoSeY x @ Jul 3 2004, 9:27 PM)th... Jul 3 2004, 09:39 PM
MyVermilionPlague QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 3 2004, 7:49 PM)Sur... Jul 3 2004, 10:11 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(InTheMudHole @ Jul 3 2004, 10:11 PM)Jee... Jul 3 2004, 10:37 PM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEJeez.
There's no reason for people to th... Jul 3 2004, 10:38 PM
haejung012 it depends... some people belive that santa is ant... Jul 5 2004, 12:36 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 10:38 PM)Th... Jul 5 2004, 01:33 PM
ichiban Hmm .. I'm a Christian and I celebrate Christm... Jul 5 2004, 02:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(ichiban @ Jul 5 2004, 2:27 PM)Hmm .. I... Jul 5 2004, 02:28 PM
angel-roh hmm i guess i understand u, james... heh i dont ce... Jul 5 2004, 05:48 PM
i ami_am i think basically every celebrates christmas and i... Jul 5 2004, 08:36 PM
tainted_angel I guess it's hypocritical, but I mean, what is... Jul 5 2004, 08:40 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(tainted_angel @ Jul 5 2004, 8:40 PM)I g... Jul 5 2004, 08:42 PM
EmeraldKnight QUOTEit depends... some people belive that santa i... Jul 5 2004, 09:40 PM
rnrn897 ahem.. not many ppl know that christmas is actuall... Jul 6 2004, 02:11 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(rnrn897 @ Jul 6 2004, 2:11 PM)ahem.. no... Jul 6 2004, 03:02 PM
abstracted What's wrong with non-Christians celebrating C... Jul 6 2004, 07:43 PM
poisonedxivy i understand what you're saying and partly agr... Jul 6 2004, 11:50 PM
OriskybusinessO Well... my parents USED to be religous and do all ... Jul 8 2004, 09:28 PM
redsoxbaby87 QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 1 2004, 8:04 PM)is it f... Jul 17 2004, 04:11 PM
tyedyefroggy I was just wondering if you, personally, would rat... Jul 17 2004, 04:39 PM
shawty_redd QUOTE(tyedyefroggy @ Jul 17 2004, 3:39 PM)
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onenonly101 Christmas is not the nations holiday, it is religo... Jul 18 2004, 04:47 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(shawty_redd @ Jul 18 2004, 3:12 PM)nope... Jul 18 2004, 09:53 PM
sadolakced acid to me, christmas is a time for caring, a time for ... Jul 19 2004, 01:12 PM
onenonly101 QUOTEImagine this, you're invited into a Hindu... Jul 19 2004, 02:13 PM
CrackedRearView I'll bet the phrase "X-mas" really p... Jul 19 2004, 05:19 PM
Sumiaki QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 3 2004, 12:21 AM)Di... Jul 20 2004, 12:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(WunKraziePinoy @ Jul 20 2004, 12:27 PM)... Jul 20 2004, 12:40 PM
sadolakced acid see, holiday spirit.
christmas isn't about ... Jul 20 2004, 03:23 PM
J.K mm well christmas was orginally a pagan holiday...... Jul 21 2004, 12:07 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(Arimalka @ Jul 22 2004, 4:51 PM)Holiday... Jul 22 2004, 04:57 PM
sadolakced acid alright. i won't celebrate christmas. i won... Jul 22 2004, 05:22 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 5:22 PM)... Jul 22 2004, 07:14 PM
sadolakced acid haha. but they can't celebrate christmas at a... Jul 22 2004, 08:10 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 8:10 PM)... Jul 22 2004, 09:21 PM
bibliomania Christmas is now more like... national holiday now... Jul 26 2004, 01:40 PM
jo3 QUOTEGeez, now I have to celebrate 'pine tree ... Jul 26 2004, 04:00 PM
sadolakced acid i know some people who's parents stopped with ... Jul 31 2004, 12:21 PM
DaToNeViEtBoI916 im buddhists..we celebrate all holidays of ne reli... Jul 31 2004, 03:56 PM
[i]LLMATiC QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 7:33 PM)Good fo... Aug 5 2004, 01:37 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE([i)LLMATiC,Aug 5 2004, 1:37 PM] i knoe ... Aug 5 2004, 01:43 PM
sadolakced acid which makes most the world not good christains.
... Aug 5 2004, 02:06 PM
DaToNeViEtBoI916 QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 5 2004, 2:06 PM)w... Aug 6 2004, 03:38 PM
SH0RTAYE ... christmas ... so youre saying ... only CHRiSTi... Aug 6 2004, 04:06 PM
sadolakced acid no, we've proven that christians that think on... Aug 6 2004, 04:08 PM
Ze world is a Mask waht if jesus isnt real and never was heard? and... Aug 6 2004, 05:34 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 6 2004, 4:08 PM)n... Aug 6 2004, 11:20 PM
sadolakced acid yea, i know the christians stole a lot of pagan ho... Aug 7 2004, 10:24 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 7 2004, 10:24 AM)... Aug 7 2004, 12:41 PM
sadolakced acid well, seeing as how it's nearing holidays, let... Dec 8 2004, 11:03 PM
niez_cho I guess it doesn't really matter if non-Christ... Dec 9 2004, 12:04 AM
ComradeRed http://www.chestnutcafe.com/cafe/X-Mas.html
QUOTE... Dec 9 2004, 07:18 AM
stryker76 i feel like this about Christmas. Yeah Christians ... Dec 9 2004, 08:46 AM
xtrashx wow... harsh... do you celebrate halloween? becaus... Dec 9 2004, 08:53 AM
Jealousy It does seems strange that everyone is given chris... Dec 9 2004, 10:19 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(xtrashx @ Dec 9 2004, 8:53 AM)wow... ha... Dec 9 2004, 04:49 PM
sadolakced acid all saints day's eve is another stolen holiday... Dec 9 2004, 07:02 PM
picaso_smile I say if non-christian want to celebrate santa ins... Dec 9 2004, 08:15 PM
sadolakced acid it disrespectful to steal a holiday, call it your ... Dec 9 2004, 08:24 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 9 2004, 8:15 PM)I sa... Dec 9 2004, 09:29 PM
pandamonium QUOTERead the whole thread, please?
Christmas was... Dec 9 2004, 09:45 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(pandamonium @ Dec 9 2004, 9:45 PM)She w... Dec 9 2004, 10:35 PM
Heathasm i dont take things so literally. i think of xmas a... Dec 10 2004, 03:26 AM
picaso_smile QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 9 2004, 10:35 PM)Wh... Dec 10 2004, 05:01 PM
sadolakced acid christmas in american does not belong to christian... Dec 10 2004, 05:15 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 9 2004, 9:29 PM)Chr... Dec 10 2004, 05:16 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 10 2004, 5:01 PM)How... Dec 10 2004, 05:21 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTEReally, people at my school badmouth God and ... Dec 10 2004, 05:25 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 10 2004, 5:25 PM)... Dec 10 2004, 05:28 PM
Spirited Away QUOTEI don't think you're understanding wh... Dec 10 2004, 05:32 PM
sammi rules you i celebrate christmas, but we don't like, pray... Dec 11 2004, 12:27 PM
Kriegsgefangene I may not believe, really. I don't have a rel... Dec 11 2004, 12:59 PM
xtrashx QUOTEAs far as I believe, Jesus and God love EVERY... Dec 12 2004, 12:57 AM
Oh4SuChSwEeTnEsS its funny...the first presents were the ones that ... Dec 13 2004, 10:23 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(Oh4SuChSwEeTnEsS @ Dec 13 2004, 10:23 P... Dec 13 2004, 10:37 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(Oh4SuChSwEeTnEsS @ Dec 13 2004, 9:23 PM... Dec 13 2004, 10:41 PM
picaso_smile QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 13 2004, 10:41 PM... Dec 14 2004, 06:01 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(picaso_smile @ Dec 14 2004, 6:01 PM)How... Dec 14 2004, 11:59 PM
picaso_smile QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 14 2004, 11:59 PM)U... Dec 17 2004, 09:19 PM![]() ![]() |