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post Jul 14 2004, 01:13 AM
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rap luvers...who do yah tink is belongs in da top ten list of best MCs ever...?

mine:
1.2pac
2.biggie
3.eminem
4.dmx
5.nas
6.jay-z
7.dr.dre
8.snoop dogg
9.eazy e
10.kanye west
 
 
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post Jul 14 2004, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 14 2004, 2:28 PM)
ya'll 'er all buggin'

first of all, Tupac and Biggie are two of the most overrated MC's of alltime because of their death. God rest their souls but that whole ish is bullsh*t...... there's two other MC's that get half the recognition but are better than both...

Big L and Big Pun are both sicker lyrically and their delivery's are just as sick.......

half the people on ya'll lists shouldn't even be there....

I study hip hop and am a MC not far from gettin' signed... so I'll break it down for ya'll......... aight, here we go:



1) Eminem: lyrically, he's thee most incredible MC. From rhyme pattern switches to his ridiculous use of syllable rhyming to his punchlines back in the day ("Ya ass forgot / 'n in case you don't remember me I'll run ya brain around the block ta jog ya f**kin' memory"). His wits are out of this world and his battle tracks are crazy (Peep: Bully, Nail in the Coffin, I Remember, Quitter (the last three are three of the greatest diss tracks ever IMO)).... Plus he's a brilliant story teller (even though twisted plots. Peep: Stan, As the World Turns, Guilty Conscience, Brain Damage, My Fault, Jealousy Woes, and more)

And yes, his delivery and flow was offpoint back in the day but he's perfected a delivery where his vocal tones switch up between bars and has this crazy rapid delivery that's almost unmatchable.....

SONGS I RECOMMEND: Scary Movies feat. Royce da 5'9, Bad Meets Evil feat Royce da 5'9, Brain Damage, second verse of 313, Just and Still Don't Give a F**k, Rock Bottom, Renagade (they spelt it wrong - two versions (the original's with Royce da 5'9 and other version's with Jay-Z), The Way I Am, Stan, Marshall Mathers, I'm Back, Who Knew (all of the Marshall Mathers LP except Real Slim Shady recommended), White America, Cleaning Out My Closet, Square Dance, Sing for the Moment, When the Music Stops, Say What You Say, 'Til I Collapse, Fight Music, Shit Can Happen, Devil's Night, Shit On You, Words Are Weapons, These Drugs, Lose Yourself, 8 Mile Road, Rabbit Run, I Remember, Quitter, Dead Wrong Remix (where he makes Biggie sound like an amateur), Off the Wall feat. Redman, Nail in the Coffin, the rhyme he spit over the Mobb Deep - Got it Twisted beat on the Tim Westwood Show, 3 Verses, Don't Push Me, Patiently Waiting, Nuttin' to Do feat. Royce da 5'9, Real 911, Desperados, What the Beat feat. Method Man and Royce da 5'9, Forgot About Dre, What's the Difference, Stir Crazy feat. Madd Rapper, and more)




2) Copywrite: ya'll probably never heard of this guy unless your a backpacker or listen to a lotta underground. This guy's on the verge of getting signed to the ROC. He's another CRAZY white MC from Ohio. Can't say as much about him as Em cuz his catelogue is a lot smaller but out of everything I've heard, he's remarkable. HANDS DOWN, the best punchline spitter in the game.

EXAMPLES:
"Holler b**ch lane merging / I'm like a med. school scholarship
, for free I'll change a lame virgin to a brain surgeon"

"Doing shows, screwing hoes on their back / Shoot a load like I squeezed rounds at the Laundromat
"

Not many guys can keep up with this guy....

Plus, his syllable rhyming is also ridiculous. Can rhyme 9 connected syllables and bring it back the next bar ta spit a line that rhymes the exactly same 9 syllables. Basically meanin' you're rhymin' a phrase.... that's what syllable rhyming is if ya'll don't know.

instead of basic sh*t like majority of rappers rap (cat, bat, at-tack, slap, mack, dap, black, hat, cap, rat)... it's more like, spittin'~a~rhyme, rippin'~ya~spine, didn't~align, etc

SONGS I RECOMMEND
Just cop the High Exhaulted album... though he's underground, you might be able to find a copy at a music store.... there usually is only like 1 or 2 in the rack but just check it out.......
Won't Stop from Eastern Conference Allstars, Jeah, the song Eastern Conference Allstars

he says: "Bad boy with a long barrell dass all narrow / Shyne behind bars like Ja-mal~barrow" don't know how many of ya'll gon' understand that but dass ridiculous!




3) Pharaohe Monch

His career got messed up when he dropped Simon Says because he got killed about that song. The funny thing about that is that the rest of his album (Internal Affairs) was a classic. Lyrically, he's phenomenal with a use a wordplay, wits, and intelligence. His extensive vocabulary has the average listener lost at times but he's still sick.

His story telling ability is just ridiculous (Peep: Stray Bullet where he describes exactly what happens as a bullet comes out of the barrell of a gun and the journey of a bullet as it goes through the air. It's so ridiculous!)

His delivery? I think he's got the hottest voice in hip hop cuz iss like a baratone echoing deeply, so smooth. He's a conscious rapper that uses wordplay, kinda like Common but much more lyrical. His syllable rhyming is good, his hooks are amazing, and so are his messages in most of his songs. He has reason for his songs, unlike 90% of rappers today. No bling bling, I got do', guns, and sh*t like that. It's more songs like Agent Orange (A MUST LISTEN - some of you G-Unit fans mighta thought it was their beat but it's actually his and they just spit over it)

Rawkus was his label and now the rumors are he's goin' to Shady Records. DAMN RAWKUS! That's who I was looking to sign with and then they go bankrupt and I find out they really don't pay their artist. Well, all the better....

He's not for the "teeny bopper hip hop listeners"... he's for people that wanna listen to deep rhymes, intellectual songs, and just a SICK MC.... no gimmicks to sell like 95% of rappers.... I doubt he'll succeed in the mainstream business (though I hope he does) but ya'll should definitely give 'em a listen......

SONGS I RECOMMEND:
Right Here (SICK), Behind Close Doors, Oh No with Mos Def and Nate Dogg, No Mercy feat. MOP, Hell feat. Canibus, Official, Queens (soulful beat, sick song), The Ass (funny song... LMAO), The Truth feat. Common and Talib Kweli (CRAZY SONG - one of my favorites of alltime), The Light, What is the Law, Stray Bullet, Ghetto World, Last Days (crazy song about a guy that comes back in time from a period about the end of the world warning us for what to expect.... ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITES OF HIS - CRAZY!), Talkin' to You (on Black on Both Sides - Mos Def's album) feat. Mos Def and Rah Digga (best female MC IMO), Agent Orange, The Invincible feat. EPMD and Ras Kass, One Love feat. Rah Digga, Common, Talib Kweli, Kool G Rap, Shabaam Sadeeq and Mos Def, F**k You, I Shot the Mayor, Livin' It Up, Ya'll Know the Name feat. X-Ecutioners, Purist Breed feat. Canibus and Ras Kass, Street Smarts

there's more but too much to name in the short career he's had so far




4) Crooked I
Another underground cat that just left Tha Row (formerly Death Row)... now has his own label called Dynasty Records....

CRAZY CRAZY MC. His syllable rhyming is one of the best and his rapid, furious flow is just outta this world. His recent works are starting to prove he wants to have a more conscious side. The best MC from the West Coast by far IMO

I don't even need to say anything about him.... just peep something of his and you'll know exactly what ah was talkin' about....

his old sh*t has 7 day beats (weak) but listen to him on some hotter ish...

SONGS TO PEEP:
Rhymes on Wakeup Show - over Grindin' and the other one where he was on with Chino XL....

HERE'S A SOUNDCLICK WITH A LOTTA THE RECENT STUFF ON IT....
4) Crooked I
Another underground cat that just left Tha Row (formerly Death Row)... now has his own label called Dynasty Records....

CRAZY CRAZY MC. His syllable rhyming is one of the best and his rapid, furious flow is just outta this world. His recent works are starting to prove he wants to have a more conscious side. The best MC from the West Coast by far IMO

I don't even need to say anything about him.... just peep something of his and you'll know exactly what ah was talkin' about....

his old sh*t has 7 day beats (weak) but listen to him on some hotter ish...

SONGS TO PEEP:
Crooked I Songs Link^^^

go there an peep some of that.... you'll know what I'm talkin' about




5) Rakim Allah
This du's a hip hop God. Him and Kool G Rap were two of the first to insert syllable rhyming into rap and also implemented the rapid flow in to rapping. Everyone before him had done the, spit a bar, pause for a while, spit a bar, then pause for a while.... over and over again......

Lyrically he's CRAZY!!! But regardless, the main reason he's 5 for me is because the impact he has had on hip hop...... he has many old classic albums (with Eric B) and still proved he can hang with the best of 'em delivering a ridiculous verse in the Watcher 2 feat. Hov and Dre on Blueprint 2....

"I'm "Rated R," my brain contains graphics thangs
It turn traumatic teens into addicts, and fiends
It's like, watchin a movie through a panoramic screen
Which means, I can see the whole planet in the scene
Cash is the topic, the object, a fatter pocket
Some take the crack and chop it, but those that haven't got it
take away the added profit, it's catastrophic
I take the gat and cock it, and I'll sit back and watch it
These New York streets is ugly, I keep it gully
The world is mine and can't nobody keep it from me
Yo, my neighborhood is never sunny
In the place where the number one cause of death is money
You can try copin
I've seen enough shit to leave your frame of mind broken
I'm still alive and scopin
Be another hundred years 'til my skies close in
And I'ma die with my eyes open, the watcher"

He's the idol of many of your favorite rappers and he's one of the rappers that some of ya'll favorite rappers learned how to spit a complex verse.... nothing more to say...

this guys catelogue is too enormous and phenomenal so just peep any of his earlier works.... Paid in Full, Follow the Leader, and the 18th Letter are all classic albums.... peep 'em

my final 5 will come in the near future.... Hope you had fun being school on some ish here for those who actually read this...

that's great and that's ur opinion. i'm sticking with my top ten though thanks. i still don't think 2pac and biggy r overrated. i don't know about the other ppl, but i loved 2pac and biggy even when they were alive.
 

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UnNamed   wats u top 10 best rapper?   Jul 14 2004, 01:13 AM
CEP   How exactly is this debate? What are we gonna deba...   Jul 14 2004, 01:16 AM
LiNHy POO   1- twista 2- kayne west 3- nas 4- eminem 5- ludacr...   Jul 14 2004, 01:30 AM
RandomHero   i hate rap   Jul 14 2004, 01:34 AM
Mr. Psychotic   QUOTE(RandomHero @ Jul 14 2004, 1:34 AM)i hat...   Jul 14 2004, 01:49 AM
CEP   QUOTE(Mr. Psychotic @ Jul 13 2004, 11:49 PM)i...   Jul 14 2004, 01:52 AM
ryfitaDF   1. ludacris 2. snoop 3. jay Z 4. outkast 5-10 don...   Jul 14 2004, 02:30 AM
Caustic   QUOTE(RandomHero @ Jul 14 2004, 1:34 AM)i hat...   Jul 14 2004, 03:30 AM
dukesoccer07   1. Eminem 2. Kayne West 3. Ludacris 4. Jay-Z 5. Ne...   Jul 14 2004, 05:10 AM
liquidbluac1d   i hate rap too =x it makes me feel ucky.   Jul 14 2004, 05:46 AM
xquizit   <-- 90s Hip-hop junkie 1. 2pac <-- lyrics, ...   Jul 14 2004, 08:15 AM
xtremeliquid   I don't really listen to rap.   Jul 14 2004, 08:41 AM
koOoaznboi_510   1. 2-pac 2. Notorious BIG 3. daz dillenger 4. kuru...   Jul 14 2004, 09:27 AM
MyVermilionPlague   QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jul 14 2004, 1:16 AM)...   Jul 14 2004, 10:05 AM
SkYlIneZx4xLiF   1. eminem 2. petey pablo 3. chingy 4. dr. dre 5. ...   Jul 14 2004, 11:04 AM
h22fanatik   in random order: 1. 2pac 2. Biggy 3. Ludacris 4. ...   Jul 14 2004, 11:31 AM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   ya'll 'er all buggin' first of all, T...   Jul 14 2004, 02:28 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(Mr. Psychotic @ Jul 14 2004, 2:49 AM)i ...   Jul 14 2004, 02:34 PM
h22fanatik   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 14 2004, 2:28 PM...   Jul 14 2004, 03:39 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   it's not opinion... it's fact because rapp...   Jul 14 2004, 04:29 PM
hybrid   QUOTE(liquidbluac1d @ Jul 14 2004, 6:46 AM)i ...   Jul 14 2004, 04:34 PM
CrackedRearView   I like some rap. I'm more into the oldies tho...   Jul 14 2004, 08:58 PM
iheartsimba   i dunno. im not big with rap. but god i love emo ...   Jul 15 2004, 12:05 AM
AZN_DRAGON   1. 2 Pac [ truly the greatest ] 2. B.I.G [ his so...   Jul 15 2004, 12:15 AM
Jordan Inc.   they are not in order...they are just namesEminemJ...   Jul 15 2004, 12:47 AM
DavidxN   Kanye West should be on everyone's top 1   Jul 15 2004, 12:52 AM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE1. 2 Pac [ truly the greatest ] 2. B.I.G [ hi...   Jul 15 2004, 01:43 AM
RuffRyderzUsmc   These arnet in any real order cause I like them al...   Jul 15 2004, 02:22 AM
h22fanatik   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 14 2004, 4:29 PM...   Jul 15 2004, 07:44 AM
Yemmerz   QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jul 14 2004, 2:16 AM)...   Jul 15 2004, 08:36 AM
patrick004   PENtheINSTRUMENT, we have to realize these people ...   Jul 15 2004, 09:46 AM
h22fanatik   QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 15 2004, 9:46 AM)PENth...   Jul 15 2004, 10:12 AM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 15 2004, 9:46 AM)PENth...   Jul 15 2004, 01:38 PM
sh0rt13   - fabolous - kanye west - diddy - t.i - twista - j...   Jul 15 2004, 01:45 PM
black_cloud10   1. eminem 2. ludacris 3. scarface 4. dre 5. snoop ...   Jul 15 2004, 01:53 PM
black_cloud10   QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jul 15 2004, 7:36 AM)I rememb...   Jul 15 2004, 01:55 PM
lilambi1612   1.2pac 2.Biggie ...   Jul 15 2004, 02:04 PM
Beyond Elite   I hate raps. They're undecent people. So...s...   Jul 15 2004, 02:13 PM
whhaat   1. Lloyd Banks 2. Kanye West 3. 50 Cent 4. Nelly 5...   Jul 15 2004, 03:10 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   these kinda rap fans 'er the one's that pi...   Jul 15 2004, 03:16 PM
h22fanatik   QUOTEand as for that, I am open minded.... VERY, b...   Jul 15 2004, 03:59 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 15 2004, 3:59 PM)well ...   Jul 15 2004, 04:03 PM
h22fanatik   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 15 2004, 4:03 PM...   Jul 15 2004, 04:46 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 15 2004, 4:46 PM)haha ...   Jul 15 2004, 04:58 PM
patrick004   Cool, you know Krumbz, I think he's tight. Wha...   Jul 15 2004, 06:23 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 15 2004, 6:23 PM)Cool,...   Jul 15 2004, 06:40 PM
patrick004   Haha, I'll look out for you. If you didn...   Jul 15 2004, 06:53 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   Andrew is the name... And is the artist name..... ...   Jul 15 2004, 06:55 PM
bballchick1   here's mine: 1. kanye west 2. 2pac 3. jay-z 4...   Jul 15 2004, 10:48 PM
bigpoppaproppy   1. 2pac 2. dmx 3. eminem 4. Snoop/Dre 5. Twista 6....   Jul 16 2004, 02:03 AM
tootsie_kiddo   i dnt think i kno 10 rapperz in da first place   Jul 16 2004, 02:04 AM
h22fanatik   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 15 2004, 4:58 PM...   Jul 16 2004, 07:33 AM
xquizit   Seriously, you can't tell people that they...   Jul 16 2004, 10:45 AM
xsweetdreams12x   They're not in order. Just my favorite 8 rappe...   Jul 16 2004, 12:49 PM
Yemmerz   QUOTEoh god, you have no idea what you're talk...   Jul 16 2004, 01:00 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 16 2004, 7:33 AM)haha....   Jul 16 2004, 02:05 PM
h22fanatik   aite no point in continuing to argue. it's not...   Jul 16 2004, 03:36 PM
Boricuahh_Mamii   2pac big pun jay-z t.i. ludacris nas twista raekw...   Jul 16 2004, 03:48 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   ^^^ nobody's gettin' the point ah give up...   Jul 16 2004, 03:56 PM
AznKutie   well...some rap is OK...i like D-12 and kanye west...   Jul 16 2004, 05:04 PM
PunknAzN   bone thugs and harmony wu tang clan ez e run dmc (...   Jul 19 2004, 04:41 AM
eli5e   kanye is # 1 to me... im not sure about the rest ....   Jul 19 2004, 10:35 AM
onenonly101   if you people don't like rap, then why did you...   Jul 20 2004, 01:07 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 20 2004, 1:07 PM)if y...   Jul 20 2004, 01:26 PM
onenonly101   okay...hypocrisy...   Jul 20 2004, 02:15 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   okay, it's hypocrisy how? LoL cuz I'm te...   Jul 20 2004, 02:21 PM
onenonly101   it is not healthy for an object to be your "l...   Jul 20 2004, 02:27 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   okay, believe it's not healthy... think or say...   Jul 20 2004, 03:44 PM
h22fanatik   here's some advice, don't argue with penth...   Jul 20 2004, 03:48 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   LoL... I can't stand ignorance or ignorant com...   Jul 20 2004, 03:53 PM
h22fanatik   haha...see? what did i tell u? he never stops...   Jul 20 2004, 03:56 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   you're very frustrating... nagger!!...   Jul 20 2004, 03:58 PM
h22fanatik   and going...and going...hahaha =) ok i'll stop...   Jul 20 2004, 04:03 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   I hope you mean it when you say you'll stop mo...   Jul 20 2004, 04:07 PM
patrick004   No real order 1. KRS-One 2. Wu-Tang Clan 3. Canib...   Jul 20 2004, 05:00 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 20 2004, 5:00 PM)No re...   Jul 20 2004, 05:02 PM
xquizit   oneandonly is a she... not a he. And sheesh, quit ...   Jul 20 2004, 05:02 PM
patrick004   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 20 2004, 5:02 PM...   Jul 20 2004, 05:25 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(patrick004 @ Jul 20 2004, 5:25 PM)We co...   Jul 20 2004, 05:29 PM
bORICUA mORENO   Mine go like dis 1. Big Pun 2.Eminem 3. Fat joe 4...   Jul 20 2004, 05:47 PM
PunknAzN   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 20 2004, 5:29 PM...   Jul 20 2004, 06:46 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(PunknAzN @ Jul 20 2004, 6:46 PM)man loo...   Jul 20 2004, 06:55 PM
weirdness   i dont listen to rap :\   Jul 20 2004, 07:40 PM
muffin dude 292   I only have 5 1) Kanye west (cause he is hot lol)...   Jul 20 2004, 07:46 PM
inquisitive_   1.Biggie 2.Tupac 3.Nas 4.Jay-z 5.Jadakiss 6.Eminem...   Jul 20 2004, 07:56 PM
onenonly101   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 20 2004, 3:44 PM...   Jul 21 2004, 05:01 PM
im like hoy   -jay z -mos def -talib kweli -luda -twista -dmx -j...   Jul 21 2004, 05:04 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 21 2004, 5:01 PM)Firs...   Jul 21 2004, 05:08 PM
SystemDamaged   Eminem, all the boys of D12, Jay-Z, Dr. Dre, DMX, ...   Jul 21 2004, 05:21 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   ^^^ to close to below Em's waistline... hangin...   Jul 21 2004, 05:23 PM
h22fanatik   hahaha...aww everyone is gaining up on pentheinstr...   Jul 21 2004, 06:25 PM
xquizit   QUOTE(h22fanatik @ Jul 21 2004, 6:25 PM)yeah ...   Jul 21 2004, 06:55 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   get over myself? LMAO, how am I on myself to begi...   Jul 21 2004, 07:25 PM
xquizit   QUOTE(PENtheINSTRUMENT @ Jul 21 2004, 7:25 PM...   Jul 21 2004, 07:28 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   QUOTE(xquizit @ Jul 21 2004, 7:28 PM)It's...   Jul 21 2004, 07:58 PM
xquizit   Well, this wasn't open for debate. The person ...   Jul 21 2004, 08:04 PM
PENtheINSTRUMENT   how about I'm not gettin' punchlines stole...   Jul 21 2004, 08:16 PM
stealthllogic   LUDA   Jul 21 2004, 08:17 PM
x AZN D0RKii x   1. faboLous 2. twista 3. jay - z 4. j-kwon 5. kany...   Jul 21 2004, 09:36 PM
SupraS15   LoL ... this topic is more entertaining than I tho...   Jul 22 2004, 12:54 AM
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