Affirmative Action, i had to Options

[onenonly101]

Should Affirmative Action be outlawed?

I want to hear what others say before I comment

[onenonly101]

acid- i never said anything about ivy league. I have just been talking about affirmative action in everything, all schools, all jobs where it is taking place.

And finally, you still have not addressed the fact that affirmative action causes blacks to fail school.

No one can prove that it is Affirmative action that causes blacks to drop out. There are MANY factors that make people drop out.

Then why does that justify AA if people hide racism against everyone?

When i was tlaking about hiding racism i wasn't talking about AA or anything. I was just stating that i don't like when anyone does that.

the 20% that made above minimum.

But that doesn't mean that they were exceptionally over the minimum requirements.

. If you say that races are different, than I can infer that you are arguing that blacks, as a general principle, perform worse because they are DIFFERENT than whites -- thus reducing 'blackness' to a handicap, and destroying the whole rationale for AA.

I did not say that or infer that, sorry if i did. I didn't say if someone was less than someone else. But of the white precentiale will be higher since there are way more whites than blacks or anyother minority. So of course white could be achieving more.

What polls? And how can polls test your knowledge of a policy?

If the question was Affirmative action is a policy that helps only blacks and for meeting quotas. And most people said yes, they don't know what the policy is about.

100 years ago, when white people were given special preference to get into the top colleges, etc., when there was white man's affirmative action, LOTS of black people hated white people because of that. Why are white people not allowed to hate black people FOR THE SAME REASON? That's pure hypocrisy.

Special preference? Blacks weren't even allowed to go to the colleges. AA doesn't keep whites or any majority for going to college. Lots of black people hated whites for just being white.

The people the KKK are helping are rednecks who have no power whatsoever. Under your definition, my argument still holds -- the KKK is not racist.

How do you know that the people the KKK are helping are rednecks that hold no power?

so a black person who's parents are Harvard lawyers making $500,000 a year each is somehow "disadvantaged" while a welfare white student from Mississippi has the representation he deserves and needs?

Seeing as not alot of blacks are Harvard lawyers making 5K a year that they do deserve representation. And aa is to help any minority in any situation so the white boy on welfare would be a minority so he would be seeking representation.

whereas at Harvard, whites are only 65% of the student body. If whites really do control the country and are racist, as you suggest -- why are whites UNDERrepresented at Harvard University?

I never said all white people were racist, i never even said most whites are racist. Whites do control the country, seeing as there are more whites in the country than any other race so then they would hold the positions of power. Whites are not underepresented if they hold 65% of the student body. Everyone else in the school is underrepresented compared to them

And, has, in fact, increased racism -- by giving white people who otherwise tolerated blacks a reason to hate blacks.

And how would you know that?

They have not taken oppertunities for white women, because still women make 60 cents to a mans one dollar.