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 May 16 2004, 05:40 PM
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 i'm too cool 4 school  Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421  |
Should Affirmative Action be outlawed?
I want to hear what others say before I comment |
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Jul 11 2004, 09:53 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
no, but you did say it was effective in the ivy league.
ivy league stats are easier to obtain and show that AA is hurting students at top colleges, by allowing less qualified individuals to take places of more qualified ones. the less qualified ones go to tougher colleges, and are subjected to touger curriculum, and do badly. the higher qualified ones go instead to lower notch universities, where they occupy the top of the curve, pushing others that otherwise would have gotten Bs and Cs to get Ds and Fs. i don't really see how this is overcoming racism. if the ethnicity blank on college applications was left off, how ccould there be racism? in the corperate world, AA does not help that much, it puts underqualified people in positions because of AA points. you cannot say this is compensation for mistreatment. compensation for mistreatment would be creating better schools in poorer areas. it's been proven- race is not a handicap, there is a more direct coorelation to poverty levels. |
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onenonly101 Affirmative Action May 16 2004, 05:40 PM
ComradeRed QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 16 2004, 5:40 PM)Shou... May 16 2004, 05:59 PM kryogenix bah, affirmative action isn't fair. people sho... May 16 2004, 08:24 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 16 2004, 8:24 PM)bah, a... May 17 2004, 09:54 AM dasturbd getting hired/accepted because of the color of you... May 17 2004, 10:24 AM Kathleen Yeah, as others have said before me - it's rev... May 17 2004, 02:08 PM onenonly101 But what if they were denied the job because they ... Jun 9 2004, 10:29 PM ComradeRed *Ahem*
First, if your goal was to make sure that ... Jun 10 2004, 11:52 AM onenonly101 QUOTESecond, my right to free association trumps y... Jun 10 2004, 01:47 PM ComradeRed But it applies to unviersities as well. If I run a... Jun 10 2004, 02:12 PM ryfitaDF my reasons i won't be able to get in agood col... Jun 10 2004, 07:15 PM IIO__oII QUOTEmy reasons i won't be able to get in agoo... Jun 13 2004, 06:07 PM synkro so then we all agree that:
- a person should be hi... Jun 14 2004, 05:26 AM sadolakced acid affirmitave action is discrimination for certain m... Jun 15 2004, 02:30 PM onenonly101 it is not discrimination. Job discrimination is gr... Jun 15 2004, 03:44 PM sadolakced acid oh , so treating on race better isn't racism. ... Jun 15 2004, 04:37 PM JlIaTMK QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 15 2004, 4:37 PM)... Jun 16 2004, 09:17 PM onenonly101 QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 15 2004, 4:37 PM)... Jun 17 2004, 06:58 AM sadolakced acid they don't say it. they treat asians and whit... Jun 17 2004, 02:21 PM onenonly101 it is not legalized racism affirmative action. The... Jun 17 2004, 06:41 PM onenonly101 You also presented many MYTHS about Affirmative Ac... Jun 17 2004, 07:39 PM Mini QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 17 2004, 2:21 PM)... Jun 17 2004, 09:09 PM juliar QUOTE(Mini @ Jun 17 2004, 10:09 PM)i totally ... Jun 17 2004, 09:51 PM sadolakced acid no, he is being sarcastic and pointing out a few f... Jun 18 2004, 12:22 PM sadolakced acid i like your definition of racism. very political.... Jun 18 2004, 12:28 PM onenonly101 Affirmative Action helps Asians.Asians benefit in ... Jun 18 2004, 02:47 PM sadolakced acid DO I HAVE TO SCREAM IT?!?! AFFIRMATIVE AC... Jun 18 2004, 03:12 PM onenonly101 do i have to scream AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IS NOT DISC... Jun 18 2004, 03:33 PM Spirited Away <-- Agree that Affirmative Action is helpful to... Jun 19 2004, 04:39 PM ComradeRed QUOTEAffirmative Action helps Asians.Asians benefi... Jun 20 2004, 08:40 PM sadolakced acid we don't need affirmative action. we need som... Jun 21 2004, 01:41 PM ComradeRed We need to follow the Constitution... The Fourteen... Jun 21 2004, 08:20 PM onenonly101 .... Jun 22 2004, 10:03 AM ComradeRed The Constitution is a lot like wearing your seat b... Jun 24 2004, 09:25 AM xquizit QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 18 2004, 2:47 PM)Ok I... Jun 24 2004, 10:11 AM ComradeRed Do you have any PROOF that racism exists in public... Jun 24 2004, 10:21 AM bigpoppaproppy affirmitive action is bullshit
how can you cure r... Jun 30 2004, 07:35 AM sadolakced acid nice. Jul 6 2004, 01:47 PM rnrn897 hm.. i read the replies but im still a bit unsure ... Jul 6 2004, 01:59 PM onenonly101 QUOTE(bigpoppaproppy @ Jun 30 2004, 7:35 AM)a... Jul 6 2004, 03:27 PM ComradeRed Why not?
Racism, by definition, is valuing race a... Jul 6 2004, 03:30 PM bigpoppaproppy QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 6 2004, 3:27 PM)and y... Jul 6 2004, 05:40 PM sadolakced acid AA if quite racist. it uses to race to determine ... Jul 7 2004, 10:08 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEAA if quite racist. it uses to race to determ... Jul 7 2004, 10:10 AM sadolakced acid they're not going to get rid of it, even after... Jul 7 2004, 10:12 AM ComradeRed Because it's totally sleazy. You can, if you w... Jul 7 2004, 05:36 PM sadolakced acid and so it shows.
everyone agrees it would be wr... Jul 7 2004, 06:00 PM onenonly101 ^ you are a big hypocrite, if you are against it d... Jul 8 2004, 01:59 PM bigpoppaproppy racˇism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rszm)
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... Jul 8 2004, 02:39 PM onenonly101 No not if i do not beleive it is discriminatory. a... Jul 8 2004, 02:40 PM sadolakced acid if i were to deny you a job because of your race, ... Jul 8 2004, 02:48 PM bigpoppaproppy QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 8 2004, 2:40 PM)No no... Jul 8 2004, 03:14 PM onenonly101 since you are using the word based. Afirmative Act... Jul 8 2004, 03:21 PM ComradeRed Then it's also sexist, etc. Your argument is l... Jul 8 2004, 03:40 PM Sumiaki Humans naturally like to classify things. Whether ... Jul 8 2004, 03:46 PM ComradeRed Thanks to protests and some civil disobedience in ... Jul 8 2004, 03:49 PM bigpoppaproppy QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 8 2004, 3:40 PM)Then i... Jul 8 2004, 03:50 PM onenonly101 QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 8 2004, 3:40 PM)Then i... Jul 8 2004, 04:23 PM ComradeRed 1) It doesn't help people overcome racist circ... Jul 8 2004, 07:24 PM bigpoppaproppy go red Jul 8 2004, 07:38 PM Sumiaki QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 8 2004, 7:24 PM)1) It ... Jul 8 2004, 10:09 PM EmeraldKnight Minda.. you're too good, you shouldnt be allow... Jul 9 2004, 12:58 AM ComradeRed Haha, thanks :). Jul 9 2004, 11:54 AM sadolakced acid our society has become so fearful of being accused... Jul 9 2004, 02:54 PM onenonly101 ^I'm tired of hearing that I am not qualified ... Jul 10 2004, 10:47 AM redsoxbaby87 it is wrong. they should just accept you because o... Jul 10 2004, 01:35 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 10 2004, 10:47 AM)Ser... Jul 10 2004, 03:55 PM ComradeRed QUOTE^I'm tired of hearing that I am not quali... Jul 10 2004, 04:47 PM Sumiaki You're too good at debating. lol. Never in my ... Jul 10 2004, 05:37 PM onenonly101 QUOTEUnsubstantiated claim. I'm not being raci... Jul 10 2004, 07:50 PM onenonly101 QUOTEAnd what is this with people "hiding the... Jul 10 2004, 08:29 PM ComradeRed
And what makes you think this only happens to bl... Jul 10 2004, 09:32 PM onenonly101
I never said it only happened to blacks. All I s... Jul 11 2004, 02:31 PM ComradeRed
Then why does that justify AA if people hide rac... Jul 11 2004, 04:01 PM onenonly101 First why do you only bring up Ivy league, never d... Jul 11 2004, 09:30 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 11 2004, 9:30 PM)Firs... Jul 12 2004, 12:17 PM onenonly101 acid- i never said anything about ivy league. I ha... Jul 12 2004, 12:42 PM xxcrazynutmeg what's affirmative action? yeah i know, i... Jul 12 2004, 01:01 PM JlIaTMK QUOTE(xxcrazynutmeg @ Jul 12 2004, 1:01 PM)wh... Jul 12 2004, 01:35 PM ComradeRed QUOTENo one can prove that it is Affirmative actio... Jul 12 2004, 01:48 PM sadolakced acid QUOTEFirst why do you only bring up Ivy league, ne... Jul 12 2004, 01:55 PM ComradeRed QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 17 2004, 7:39 PM)You ... Jul 12 2004, 01:57 PM ComradeRed As for exploiting the system, I am going to do the... Jul 12 2004, 02:14 PM onenonly101 QUOTEMYTH: The ACLU is a fair and balanced source ... Jul 13 2004, 10:37 AM ComradeRed Then you should cite the source. It's called a... Jul 13 2004, 11:48 AM onenonly101 corruption, where?
QUOTEnote the 'only effect... Jul 13 2004, 04:51 PM ComradeRed Well if you define working as "raising minori... Jul 13 2004, 07:46 PM sadolakced acid alright, so the stats say that minorities are drop... Aug 1 2004, 09:05 PM sadolakced acid and, in an instance i agree with bush.
however ... Aug 8 2004, 06:25 PM xquizit - whooops posted in wrong thread -
*blushes in em... Aug 12 2004, 11:05 AM sikdragon shools, businesses, or any other organization shou... Aug 14 2004, 06:20 AM monde libre hey kids. having read the entire thread (except fo... Nov 15 2004, 01:40 PM tweeak QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 16 2004, 8:24 PM)bah, a... Nov 15 2004, 04:57 PM monde libre oh, come on you guys.
i typed up all those questio... Nov 16 2004, 01:22 PM tweeak i did! i answered at the very least 2... Nov 16 2004, 04:59 PM ComradeRed QUOTEA) do you propose any alternatives to affirma... Nov 16 2004, 07:07 PM
monde libre whoops. wrong quote.
mais merci beaucoup, minda. Nov 17 2004, 07:44 PM |
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