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Why Bush is a horrible president, And why the war is pointless
XxNenAxX
post Jul 9 2004, 05:00 PM
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...Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity...

These are MY opinions on war. You DON'T have to agree.


point 1--Something that really bugs me is that every one is always like "I remeber 9/11" [(and I do and I feel great empathy)] when referring to the war in Iraq. Iraq/ sadaam(sp?) has nothing to do with 9/11... AT ALL! Did you know that Bin Laden was from Saudi Arabia? Yet did you hear about a war with Saudi? NO. Would you like to know why? Because Saudi Arabia own (or contibute, i can't find the word) about 7% of our economy (i don't remember exactly. and did you know that Bush senior and th Bin Laden's are good friends (even after 9/11). I don't think that is a coincidence.

point 2--- Another thing that I've had on my mind is why we Americans won't leave the Iraqi way of living alone. And how we are killing thousands of I raqi people. Thousands! And the reason they are fighting back is not because they "have to" or because they "have weapons of mass distruction" . They are fighting because we are killing there families. Did you know that only 2% of Iraqi people consider Americans lliberators.

point 3---Further more, I can't help but wonder why we [America] are not considered terrorist. Iraq are terrorist because they bomb us, yet we aren't terrorist when we bomb them?? That doesn't seem fair.

point 4--- Bush is killing a countless number of people. The last I heard it was about 900 soldiers that have died. And I can't help but wonder WHY? The war is POINTLESS. Do people not understand? We are fighting for a cause that is non-existent. I know that they did not live under peace and that the women are beat, and I agree that that is wrong. But, that is the way they live. It might seem "immoral" for us, but it is how they live. And we could have helped there government in a different way besides just going and bombing everything.

point 5--- Bush is just plain stupid. He has the lowest IQ of all the presidents. And he himself said "I am a war prsident" like it was nothing. Does he not understand that war means death? and before 9/11 he only spent about 45% (I don't remember the exact percent, it was around there) doing work. All he did was vacation. WHen he found out that the world was under a terrorist attach (when the second plane crashed) he was at a elementry school listening to the teacher read for 7 minutes before leaving to do anything about it. He was a cheerleader in high school (i just thought I had to add that)

Everyone should go see ferenhiet 9/11. It is very good.
 
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 05:42 PM
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I've posted this before. I got it off a friends Xanga.

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Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11. Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.
FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.

Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 30 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.


Worst president in history? Come on!
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51 day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Teddy Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
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Also, the al-Qaida was in charge of 9/11. Bin Laden wasn't the only one, we're going after all members of the al-Qaida. Saddam was a major funder of the al-Qaida. There are plenty of terrorists in Iraq. Since we've been over there have you seen another attack on the United States? No, that means that our troops are doing their job and I support them.
 

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XxNenAxX   Why Bush is a horrible president   Jul 9 2004, 05:00 PM
JlIaTMK   oh oh.... i think this is gona turn to a debate......   Jul 9 2004, 05:09 PM
hybrid   er, moved to debate   Jul 9 2004, 05:13 PM
pikimoo   Heh.. Bush is such a dumb@$$. But Kerry ...   Jul 9 2004, 05:17 PM
ComradeRed   Kerry has voted with Bush 80% of the time. The ele...   Jul 9 2004, 05:19 PM
pikimoo   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 9 2004, 2:19 PM)Kerry ...   Jul 9 2004, 05:25 PM
XxNenAxX   i never said i liked Kerry. But I would rather hav...   Jul 9 2004, 05:31 PM
DisneyPrincessKate   I've posted this before. I got it off a frien...   Jul 9 2004, 05:42 PM
shortie09   well, since we're all sharing here, i'll s...   Jul 9 2004, 05:58 PM
lilpnoymaster   He just want revenge for his dad..   Jul 9 2004, 10:27 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(XxNenAxX @ Jul 9 2004, 5:31 PM)i never ...   Jul 9 2004, 10:59 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(XxNenAxX @ Jul 9 2004, 3:00 PM)...Fight...   Jul 9 2004, 10:59 PM
x rOck mai sOcksz   guys....bush may not be the best president in the ...   Jul 9 2004, 11:02 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(x rOck mai sOcksz @ Jul 9 2004, 11:02 P...   Jul 9 2004, 11:17 PM
Dopo   QUOTE(XxNenAxX @ Jul 9 2004, 5:00 PM)...Fight...   Jul 9 2004, 11:24 PM
x rOck mai sOcksz   so true ^ ^   Jul 9 2004, 11:32 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE...Fighting for peace is like screwing for vi...   Jul 10 2004, 12:56 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEfrom what i hear he WAS inlisted in the army ...   Jul 10 2004, 01:07 AM
CrackedRearView   Oh wow -- that was probably one of the most skewed...   Jul 10 2004, 01:21 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(XxNenAxX @ Jul 9 2004, 5:00 PM)...Fight...   Jul 10 2004, 09:41 AM
angel-roh   QUOTE(pikimoo @ Jul 9 2004, 3:17 PM)Heh.. Bus...   Jul 10 2004, 10:06 AM
Dopo   QUOTE(anqel_r0h @ Jul 10 2004, 10:06 AM)thats...   Jul 10 2004, 10:20 AM
onenonly101   You say Bush is stupid, yet he is the smartest pre...   Jul 10 2004, 10:23 AM
angel-roh   dopo (is that u, podo?) i dont got no love for the...   Jul 10 2004, 10:24 AM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(anqel_r0h @ Jul 10 2004, 8:24 AM)dopo (...   Jul 10 2004, 03:34 PM
vietspirit   Al Gore should have won da election a long time ag...   Jul 10 2004, 03:39 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(vietspirit @ Jul 10 2004, 3:39 PM)Al Go...   Jul 10 2004, 03:43 PM
Dopo   QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Jul 10 2004, 3:34 PM...   Jul 10 2004, 10:15 PM
CrackedRearView   Gore was so honest...seing how he "took the i...   Jul 10 2004, 10:56 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jul 10 2004, 10:56 PM...   Jul 10 2004, 10:57 PM
onenonly101   ^He was being sarcastic to the person who said Gor...   Jul 11 2004, 01:30 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 11 2004, 1:30 PM)^He ...   Jul 11 2004, 08:16 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 10 2004, 10:23 AM)You...   Jul 11 2004, 08:36 PM
xxcrazynutmeg   yeah i agree with what you said and bush is an @...   Jul 11 2004, 08:47 PM
islandkiss   he only started the war because "the u.s was ...   Jul 11 2004, 08:51 PM
Dopo   QUOTE(x3_kelly @ Jul 11 2004, 8:51 PM)he only...   Jul 12 2004, 12:06 AM
x rOck mai sOcksz   QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Jul 10 2004, 1:21 AM)...   Jul 12 2004, 12:16 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTENo, sorry, he went for terrorism, not oil. Wh...   Jul 12 2004, 12:18 AM
x rOck mai sOcksz   gore doesnt knoe how to deal with big situations.....   Jul 12 2004, 12:24 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEgore doesnt knoe how to deal with big situati...   Jul 12 2004, 12:26 AM
x rOck mai sOcksz   yuhp! very much so... republican and conserva...   Jul 12 2004, 12:39 AM
someflipguy   haha...I love you bush haters...   Jul 12 2004, 12:24 PM
Mireh   QUOTE(x rOck mai sOcksz @ Jul 9 2004, 11:02 P...   Jul 12 2004, 12:34 PM
onenonly101   I think we went to war yeah sure for the terrorist...   Jul 12 2004, 12:48 PM
JasonAkAWolf   haha bush is a funny guy and the bush haters are e...   Jul 12 2004, 12:49 PM
onenonly101   Bush is cute   Jul 12 2004, 12:53 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 12 2004, 12:53 PM)Bus...   Jul 12 2004, 01:39 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(x rOck mai sOcksz @ Jul 12 2004, 12:39 ...   Jul 12 2004, 01:53 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(xxcrazynutmeg @ Jul 11 2004, 6:47 PM)wa...   Jul 12 2004, 04:14 PM
x rOck mai sOcksz   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 12 2004, 1:53 PM)If yo...   Jul 12 2004, 04:55 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTEnot really...he doesnt follow the constitutio...   Jul 12 2004, 05:29 PM
LaRevolucion   QUOTE(x rOck mai sOcksz @ Jul 9 2004, 11:02 P...   Jul 19 2004, 11:52 AM
masu_misairu   bush is too conservative, kerry is too liberal... ...   Jul 19 2004, 11:58 AM
onenonly101   QUOTE(LaRevolucion @ Jul 19 2004, 11:52 AM)Ho...   Jul 19 2004, 02:34 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTESo basically you're a Republican.. makes ...   Jul 19 2004, 05:11 PM
inlonelinessidie   ^^ lol   Jul 19 2004, 10:03 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTEA more informed person should know that the l...   Jul 19 2004, 10:38 PM
inlonelinessidie   But seriously who cares who is uglier than the oth...   Jul 19 2004, 11:07 PM
CrackedRearView   QUOTEThe Spirit of the Law is meaningless when the...   Jul 20 2004, 01:06 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTEThe government intreprets the law however the...   Jul 20 2004, 10:20 AM
LaRevolucion   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 19 2004, 2:34 PM)tax ...   Jul 20 2004, 11:00 AM
LaRevolucion   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 19 2004, 10:38 PM)For ...   Jul 20 2004, 11:04 AM
EmeraldKnight   Dude.. stop double posting already! Sheesh.. ...   Jul 20 2004, 11:22 AM
LaRevolucion   Whoops...sorry for triple posting, but I thought t...   Jul 20 2004, 11:25 AM
ComradeRed   QUOTEMr. Constitution.. please remind me what the ...   Jul 20 2004, 03:36 PM
sadolakced acid   bush isn't bad, but he isn't good either. ...   Jul 20 2004, 03:40 PM
Kathleen   Okay, so I'm kind of jumping in here from nowh...   Jul 20 2004, 03:50 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 3:50 PM)Oh so y...   Jul 20 2004, 03:55 PM
Kathleen   QUOTENo, you can hurt someone with malice by actua...   Jul 20 2004, 03:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 20 2004, 3:55 PM)No, y...   Jul 20 2004, 04:04 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 3:59 PM)Yes, bu...   Jul 20 2004, 04:05 PM
Kathleen   QUOTELet's see. For argument sake, let's s...   Jul 20 2004, 04:09 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 20 2004, 4:05 PM)You a...   Jul 20 2004, 04:10 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 4:09 PM)Oh shus...   Jul 20 2004, 04:14 PM
Kathleen   Car accidents alone aren't the only thing mari...   Jul 20 2004, 04:20 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 4:20 PM)Car acc...   Jul 20 2004, 04:22 PM
inlonelinessidie   When did this topic turn into a drug related one? ...   Jul 20 2004, 09:15 PM
sadolakced acid   iraqi war, that is. saddam had no WMDs, there w...   Jul 20 2004, 09:43 PM
inlonelinessidie   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 20 2004, 7:43 PM)...   Jul 20 2004, 10:08 PM
LaRevolucion   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 3:50 PM)Um...so...   Jul 20 2004, 10:21 PM
inlonelinessidie   *rawr*   Jul 20 2004, 10:25 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEsaddam had no WMDs, there was no reason for u...   Jul 20 2004, 11:45 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 11:45 PM)We did...   Jul 21 2004, 07:07 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 21 2004, 7:07 AM)If yo...   Jul 21 2004, 12:50 PM
ComradeRed   What "owners"? If Hussein had nuclear we...   Jul 21 2004, 12:52 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 21 2004, 12:52 PM)What...   Jul 21 2004, 01:01 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 21 2004, 1:01 PM)Pe...   Jul 21 2004, 01:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 21 2004, 1:08 PM)How i...   Jul 21 2004, 01:13 PM
bibliomania   President Bush is horrible because he uses religio...   Jul 21 2004, 02:55 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEPresident Bush is horrible because he uses re...   Jul 21 2004, 08:29 PM
sadolakced acid   bush plays upon american's emotions, using the...   Jul 21 2004, 08:40 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE"it is the old men who decide if we go t...   Jul 22 2004, 12:58 AM
sadolakced acid   bush is a coward. he knew iraq didn't have WM...   Jul 22 2004, 05:35 PM
Spirited Away   So who do you have in mind to be the next presiden...   Jul 22 2004, 07:12 PM
sadolakced acid   bush. he got us into this mess, he should get u...   Jul 22 2004, 08:12 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 8:12 PM)...   Jul 22 2004, 09:16 PM
bibliomania   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 8:12 PM)...   Jul 23 2004, 03:58 PM
LaRevolucion   Yeah, do u really think he'll be able to get u...   Jul 23 2004, 04:28 PM
Kathleen   Well, it sure looks like he's trying. I mean, ...   Jul 23 2004, 05:24 PM
sadolakced acid   honestly, i think bush will do a better job of get...   Jul 23 2004, 06:27 PM
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