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Desecrating the Flag
*Kathleen*
post Jul 2 2004, 01:25 PM
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Hrm...I don't think there's been a topic on this, but...what do you think? Do you think it's okay? Or should it be illegal? I personally think it should be illegal. I mean, I know that this country is about free speech and whatnot, but by desecrating our flag, it's saying you don't accept our laws and whatnot; therefore, shouldn't that be illegal? Hmm what do you guys think?
 
 
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Spirited Away
post Jul 3 2004, 10:25 PM
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I agree that it should be illegal, but that doesn't mean that it will stop people from doing it.

When you bring that out to court, flag desecrater vs government, the flag desecreter will have a higher chance of winning the case. Why? Our justice system will favor those who cries out with the first amendment... not really... I mean to say that most likely the Supreme Court will exercise their right to "Checks and Balances".

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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." The First Amendment is the opening declaration of this nation's precious Bill of Rights and secures our grandest liberties: the freedom of speech, religion and the press; the right to assemble and to petition the government. Of these liberties, freedom of speech is the greatest testament to our nation's triumph as a democracy: we may not like what you say, but we will defend to death your right to say it. As Captain Jean-Luc Picard, of Star Trek, said: "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all, irrevocably."


Then again, I've heard that the Supreme Court itself wanted to propose an admenment to illegalize physical desecration of the flag, but it didn't get Senate's approval.

No, I don't know what I'm talking about.

This post has been edited by uninspiredfae: Jul 3 2004, 10:42 PM
 

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Kathleen   Desecrating the Flag   Jul 2 2004, 01:25 PM
kryogenix   gotta love vague references   Jul 2 2004, 02:16 PM
ComradeRed   Supreme Court already ruled that it is protected s...   Jul 2 2004, 03:01 PM
Kathleen   Bleh well, do you think it should be?   Jul 2 2004, 03:39 PM
Justingamemaster   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 2:16 PM) gotta...   Jul 2 2004, 03:41 PM
princess2113   i dunno, i mean its just material...if the persons...   Jul 2 2004, 05:06 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 2 2004, 3:39 PM)Bleh wel...   Jul 2 2004, 05:28 PM
DisneyPrincessKate   It depends. Are you burning it because you hate t...   Jul 2 2004, 05:30 PM
ComradeRed   Because if you aren't free to dispose of your ...   Jul 2 2004, 05:31 PM
princess2113   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 2 2004, 5:28 PM)Yes......   Jul 2 2004, 06:11 PM
JlIaTMK   if i own it i can burn it.... whats up with this c...   Jul 2 2004, 06:34 PM
ComradeRed   ... I own the laptop I am typing on. I have the ri...   Jul 2 2004, 11:26 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTE... I own the laptop I am typing on. I have t...   Jul 3 2004, 12:15 AM
Kathleen   Heh I don't think many of you know what ...   Jul 3 2004, 01:43 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEHeh I don't think many of you know what ...   Jul 3 2004, 01:52 AM
girlnpink_x   i also think its wrong... but it is protected unde...   Jul 3 2004, 01:54 AM
Kathleen   Yes, but my point is...should you be able to use s...   Jul 3 2004, 02:03 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEYes, but my point is...should you be able to ...   Jul 3 2004, 02:12 AM
Kathleen   Yes, but...if you don't believe in free speech...   Jul 3 2004, 02:15 AM
girlnpink_x   ooohhh good point.. hmm.. i dont know about that o...   Jul 3 2004, 02:17 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEYes, but...if you don't believe in free s...   Jul 3 2004, 02:21 AM
Kathleen   So you're saying that it depends on what you...   Jul 3 2004, 02:26 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTESo you're saying that it depends on what ...   Jul 3 2004, 02:32 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEWhat it comes down to is what you believe in....   Jul 3 2004, 03:18 AM
princess2113   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 3 2004, 2:26 AM)So you...   Jul 3 2004, 06:40 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEn i think one is burn it Yes, but that's ...   Jul 3 2004, 08:49 AM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEOh umm...sure...check article five under sect...   Jul 3 2004, 10:06 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 3 2004, 2:03 AM)Yes, but...   Jul 3 2004, 10:14 PM
Spirited Away   I agree that it should be illegal, but that doesn...   Jul 3 2004, 10:25 PM
ComradeRed   The Supreme Court can't pass bills, dude... It...   Jul 3 2004, 10:36 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 3 2004, 10:36 PM)The S...   Jul 3 2004, 10:40 PM
kyuubi319   i dont think so. i mean, its symbolic, it kinda st...   Jul 3 2004, 10:47 PM
redsoxbaby87   well...it cant really be illegal. but i think that...   Jul 14 2004, 02:29 PM
ryfitaDF   i saw a scolded, burnt miniature flag in a beer bo...   Jul 14 2004, 02:37 PM
redsoxbaby87   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 2:37 PM)i saw a...   Jul 14 2004, 02:39 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 2:37 PM)i saw a...   Jul 14 2004, 05:46 PM
ryfitaDF   i honor ideas, not symbols. ideas are sacred, symb...   Jul 14 2004, 05:54 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 5:54 PM)i honor...   Jul 14 2004, 06:11 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTEIf they want to burn the government, metaphor...   Jul 14 2004, 06:33 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 6:33 PM)have yo...   Jul 14 2004, 06:43 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 14 2004, 6:43 PM)I ...   Jul 14 2004, 06:59 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 14 2004, 6:59 PM)but it...   Jul 14 2004, 08:25 PM
iheartsimba   although i don't know what "descrating...   Jul 16 2004, 09:55 AM
aud_chua   silly supreme court.. i think that they should hav...   Jul 16 2004, 05:57 PM


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