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Lady Gaga vs. Katy Perry?
Lady Gaga or Katy Perry?
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Kathleen
post Jun 9 2010, 10:26 PM
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So upon the release of Lady Gaga's latest video, "Alejandro," Katy Perry posted on her Twitter account, "Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke."

So which videos/singer do you prefer -- videos about faux lesbianism or ones that feature latex outfits and swallowed rosary beads?
 
 
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fixtatik
post Jun 19 2010, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(aflyingcumshot @ Jun 19 2010, 07:00 PM) *
lol, typical mainstream media bashing, just surface arguments, might as well say all Americans are money hungry yanks. In your attempt to sound smart, you've generalized all people and music into categories. Really? this generation is dumb? You realize there are baby boomers that still don't know how to operate a computer or pass a high school US history test right? lmao@ music is no longer poetic, im not even gonna comment on that

*ahem* Thanks for proving my point. Adult literacy rates in the US have fallen in the past 20 years. :)
mainstream
(n.) - the principal or dominant course, tendency, or trend
(adj.) - belonging to or characteristic of a principal, dominant, or widely accepted group, movement, style, etc.

No where did I "bash" mainstream media. I simply stated that because she's popular, more people know of her, and more people are shocked. A band with 10 fans could perform nude while slashing the necks of puppies, but hardly anyone would be shocked by that, because it is not of the mainstream.

QUOTE(Cum @ Jun 19 2010, 07:03 PM) *
she was never new to begin with. whole point is she doesn't want to be worship as a pop singer who wants to look good or just do shit for no reason. she doesn't want to be glorified as an icon. she's just doing what she wants to do for her fans. can you find someone else that consecutively says they do everything for their fans and their fans only? gaga doesn't give a rats ass about the music industry, mainstraim stuff, or her own record ppl. she ignored her director when he thought dance in the dark should have been a single instead of alejandro. why? cuz of her fans appreciated alejandro more.
oh and she doesn't have a directed type of audience. she doesn't make songs for preteens. she makes songs cause she wants to express herself and put emphasis on certain subjects. who cares if tool does 10x or even 10000000x weirder stuff than gaga. it's about the message she's trying to raise for people.

For the same reason you don't care that Tool (or other bands) are different, I don't care that you're a fan of Gaga. I listen to her music. What bothers me is that fans will fight to the death defending the "honor" of someone they don't know. Because of how far they'll go to defend Lady Gaga, it makes me wonder why she's so special to deserve such treatment. I'd be willing to bet all of my limbs that if you were as dedicated other bands/artists as much as you are to Lady Gaga, you would find that there are many who are as or more in tune with their work and audience as Gaga is. Though, I would like to learn your rationale behind your claims. Who's to say it isn't a marketing tactic, for her to flaunt about how much she hates the industry? In history, the more someone brags loyalty to their employer (nation, fans, etc.), the more likely it's not as true as they want you to believe.

Of course, I could just be way off, being that she's mainstream pop the rate of to-the-death fans is just that of lesser-known artists. Still, it feels like she's getting a disproportionate amount of response. You could go on a tech blog and find posts about her.
 
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post Jun 19 2010, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jun 19 2010, 04:00 PM) *
What bothers me is that fans will fight to the death defending the "honor" of someone they don't know. Because of how far they'll go to defend Lady Gaga, it makes me wonder why she's so special to deserve such treatment. I'd be willing to bet all of my limbs that if you were as dedicated other bands/artists as much as you are to Lady Gaga, you would find that there are many who are as or more in tune with their work and audience as Gaga is. Though, I would like to learn your rationale behind your claims. Who's to say it isn't a marketing tactic, for her to flaunt about how much she hates the industry? In history, the more someone brags loyalty to their employer (nation, fans, etc.), the more likely it's not as true as they want you to believe.

Of course, I could just be way off, being that she's mainstream pop the rate of to-the-death fans is just that of lesser-known artists. Still, it feels like she's getting a disproportionate amount of response. You could go on a tech blog and find posts about her.



You're bothered by fans who support their artist because they don't know them? I'm sure most of her fans don't know how she is in person, but we still know who she is in general and what her views, goals, achievements, etc. are for her. She doesn't get special treatment. Well maybe she does to all the people that like to bash on her. Some fans love GaGa and they see her as their hero. I see her as one of my heroes, so of course whoever are big fans of GaGa will go out and defend her. It's not special treatment, it's called standing up for what you believe in and support in. You listen to her music, but do you listen to her interviews also? Maybe she gets that "special treatment" is because she's a very artistic woman who knows how to handle a conversation. Like I said, she doesn't want to have anything to do with being in the spotlight. You might as well lose all your limbs because there's no other artist that I would find that would surpass my love for GaGa. For other bands that do stuff as GaGa then that's good for them. I could care less.

It's not a marketing tactic to how she thanks us as fans and appreciating who we are as ourselves. It's not like she's trying convince us to keep buying her CD's. Saying thank you to her fans and appreciating them for who they are is a marketing tactic? She doesn't hate the freakin' music industry. I never said she did, I said she could give a rat's ass ( in other words, care less ) about what the music industry does. The only marketing tactic I ever see from her is when she uses name-brand products for her music videos. ( for example, bad romance had the vodka, monster headphones, mcqueen's high heels ) Ok, even if she didn't thank us, there would still be a large amount of people who would continue to buy her music for what it is. And about that history comment..ok? Who are your claims for that comment? Are they someone that's part of the music industry? How do you know that Gaga will be one of those people will end up as one of those people? She doesn't just brag about it, ugh, she says what she does. Do you see how much effort she puts into her creations, songs? (Yes, she actually writes her songs with those catchy allusions.) She worked her ass off at the age of 4 where she first got into music. Do you think that's bluffing? She had to work multiple jobs to support money for her demos and to go to shows to have her name get noticed. Her family was not poor, but she sure did have to support herself when her family didn't agree on some actions she did to get "The fame."


And I think you're just over thinking about GaGa. Of course she would be on a tech blog, it's not like all tech people don't listen to pop. Of course she would be on 4chan or whatever site that's on the interwebz. I think you're just tired of hearing GaGa.







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i take that back. she hates certain "people" in the industry that are homophobic.
 

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Kathleen   Lady Gaga vs. Katy Perry?   Jun 9 2010, 10:26 PM
spambot   Can you add a "I'd stab both bitches if t...   Jun 9 2010, 10:42 PM
Cum   both of them are great. you just need to know the...   Jun 9 2010, 10:56 PM
Kathleen   QUOTE(Cum @ Jun 9 2010, 08:56 PM) both of...   Jun 10 2010, 12:38 AM
ButtsexV2   Gaga is like pop music's Marilyn Manson   Jun 9 2010, 11:42 PM
kryogenix   katy perry is only famous because she has big boob...   Jun 10 2010, 12:02 AM
serotonin   I love Lady Gaga, too, lolz. nomo?   Jun 10 2010, 12:51 AM
ArjunaCapulong   okay katy perry's always bitching at high prof...   Jun 10 2010, 12:53 AM
Kathleen   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Jun 9 2010, 10:53 ...   Jun 10 2010, 12:58 AM
ArjunaCapulong   i mean i guess. i guess i also like to think lady ...   Jun 10 2010, 12:59 AM
queen   i feel like lady gaga's "theatricality...   Jun 10 2010, 03:00 AM
ArjunaCapulong   yeah, there's many places long behind nyc...   Jun 10 2010, 09:47 AM
doughnut   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Jun 10 2010, 10:47...   Jun 10 2010, 10:18 AM
ArjunaCapulong   CREAM   Jun 10 2010, 10:31 AM
Cum   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 9 2010, 09:38 PM) No...   Jun 10 2010, 11:50 AM
emberfly   Gaga hands down /endthread. katy and russel bran...   Jun 10 2010, 05:00 PM
ArjunaCapulong   who the f*ck voted katy perry   Jun 10 2010, 09:28 PM
tokyo-rose   QUOTE(doughnut @ Jun 10 2010, 11:18 AM) c...   Jun 10 2010, 11:05 PM
ArjunaCapulong   but that piece is a reference to C.R.E.A.M. by leg...   Jun 10 2010, 11:12 PM
tokyo-rose   QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Jun 11 2010, 12:12...   Jun 10 2010, 11:21 PM
ButtsexV2   QUOTE(tokyo-rose @ Jun 10 2010, 11:2...   Jun 10 2010, 11:34 PM
SoleShine   gaga is just a crazy b!tch that has to become ...   Jun 15 2010, 07:03 PM
spambot   ^I thought that for the longest time too, but I me...   Jun 15 2010, 08:40 PM
Cum   wut   Jun 15 2010, 08:56 PM
queen   lady gaga is legit. typical arts student to me.   Jun 18 2010, 08:17 AM
Cum   +10 rep   Jun 18 2010, 08:26 AM
Joanne   That's the amazing thing about Gaga. She's...   Jun 18 2010, 12:11 PM
gojira   but i want to go to her parties :( click to enlarg...   Jun 18 2010, 04:13 PM
fixtatik   So...how exactly is Lady Gaga at all special? She...   Jun 18 2010, 09:11 PM
aflyingcumshot   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jun 18 2010, 07:11 PM) S...   Jun 19 2010, 12:00 AM
fixtatik   QUOTE(aflyingcumshot @ Jun 19 2010, 01:00...   Jun 19 2010, 12:52 PM
Uso   woah Beens is lady gaga on that boiling points sho...   Jun 18 2010, 09:17 PM
queen   you say she's not special, yet there are peopl...   Jun 19 2010, 02:11 PM
fixtatik   Exactly. She is mainstream and that's why peop...   Jun 19 2010, 03:19 PM
aflyingcumshot   lol, typical mainstream media bashing, just surfac...   Jun 19 2010, 06:00 PM
Cum   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jun 19 2010, 12:19 PM) E...   Jun 19 2010, 06:03 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(aflyingcumshot @ Jun 19 2010, 07:00...   Jun 19 2010, 07:00 PM
Cum   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jun 19 2010, 04:00 PM) W...   Jun 19 2010, 07:57 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(Cum @ Jun 19 2010, 08:57 PM) You...   Jun 19 2010, 08:27 PM
Cum   QUOTEI think you left out a few words from what I ...   Jun 19 2010, 09:02 PM
aflyingcumshot   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jun 19 2010, 05:00 PM) *...   Jun 19 2010, 07:18 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(aflyingcumshot @ Jun 19 2010, 08:18...   Jun 19 2010, 07:37 PM
aflyingcumshot   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Jun 19 2010, 05:37 PM) Y...   Jun 19 2010, 09:55 PM
kryogenix   lady gaga finds some way to make herself uglier an...   Jun 19 2010, 09:32 PM
ArjunaCapulong   this topic f*cking sucks now   Jun 20 2010, 01:53 AM
spambot   I';; give her one thing. With a nose like that...   Jun 20 2010, 01:58 AM
Headlines   I think it's hard to compare any two artists u...   Apr 2 2011, 12:27 PM


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