Utah: Making miscarriages a crime? Options

[brooklyneast05]

Just weeks after entertaining a plan to save money by making 12th grade optional, lawmakers in the Beehive State are again provoking national controversy. Under a bill that has passed the legislature and awaits signature by the governor, miscarriages that result from an "intentional, knowing, or reckless act" would be treated as illegal abortions, punishable by life in prison. As a response to a single incident in which a woman allegedly paid a man to beat her and induce a miscarriage, has Utah gone too far?

This bill is scary: This is a terribly idea generally, but the use of the word "reckless" is "especially concerning," says Anna North at Jezebel. Under the terms of this law, women could be prosecuted if they "failed to wear a seat belt"—or even if they "fell down the stairs." It's bad enough when legislators target "abortion providers," but this law "targets women themselves."
"The next anti-choice target: Miscarriage"

It's about protecting lives: This bill is only aimed at those who "arrange to terminate their pregnancies illegally," says state Sen. Margaret Dayton ®, a sponsor of the bill, in the Salt Lake Tribune. Such as the Utah woman who allegedly paid a man $150 to beat her and cause miscarriage. "Reckless behavior" is deliberately vague: "I don't think we want to go down the road of carefully defining" what it might entail.
"Measure on illegal abortions heads to governor"

The bill isn't even logical: Where will this insanity end? asks Dan Savage in The Stranger. Will Utah launch a criminal investigation "every time a woman has a miscarriage?" One in four pregnancies end that way. Utah will either have to create a "pregnancy registry" to keep track, or force every women in the state to "come in for mandatory pregnancy tests" once a month. Surely not even Utah would go that far, would it?
"When miscarriages are a crime"

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/10673...rriages_a_crime


watcha think about something like this ?

[Mickey]

And I guess one thing to this is that if a woman knows that she is pregnant and is trying to hurt herself to kill the child (instead of giving it away or an appropriate abortion) they could get some trouble from it.

Uh, that's what this bill is trying to prevent.

It's about protecting lives: This bill is only aimed at those who "arrange to terminate their pregnancies illegally," says state Sen. Margaret Dayton, a sponsor of the bill, in the Salt Lake Tribune. Such as the Utah woman who allegedly paid a man $150 to beat her and cause miscarriage.

As in the miscarriage was purposefully caused. I'm pretty sure a woman can help that.

Anyway, this shit's ridiculous. The woman who paid a man to cause her miscarriage should obviously be prosecuted. But how does one define recklessness? Losing a child by falling 'down the stairs'? What if it was an accident? This law has the potential to ruin a woman's life based off of questionable circumstances. I don't know. I get that it's trying to prevent extreme behavior but this is just confusing to me.

[Blyat]

Oh ok sorry I kind-of scanned through that article

But I agree that this is just ridiculous overall. It prolly wont pass