UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE., just because everyone else does it... Rating Options

[NoSex]

so, why the f*ck don't we have universal healthcare?

[kryogenix]

No you don't, you merely parrot off the same things over and over again. And when people don't buy your bullshit, you repeat it in capital letters. The only bad jokes are the incoherent rants that you call your argument.

what you continuously refuse is the fact that socialized medicine outperforms private medicine all over the world & even in america.

CONSUMER SERVICE SATISFACTION IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FOR MEDICARE & MEDICAID THAN IN COMPARISON TO PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE.

And what you continuously ignore is the fact that they're unsustainable. If I had the ability to borrow basically unlimited amounts of money/print money out of thin air/forcibly take money from the most productive members of society, I bet I could beat medicare/medicaid in customer satisfaction. The country would implode, but at least we'd have universal healthcare before that happen s, and that's all the matters, right?

p.s. what does the size of population have to do with anything?

Try the same scheme in China. How's their healthcare system compared to the US?

p.p.s. we need to put more money into systems that are not adequately funded; it's no different than paying the highest prices in the world for mediocre healthcare.

I love how you keep talking shit about our quality of care when people from countries which supposedly have world class healthcare systems come to the US for treatment. I think most people agree that the quality of US healthcare is world class; the problem is availability of that care. Allowing the free market to work means lower prices, more efficiency and greater availability.

p.p.p.s. what inefficiencies & higher costs do government regulations contribute? how are these related to the inefficiencies and high costs of our private industries?

Barriers to competition artificially lower the supply of things like doctors and drugs. Lower supply leads to higher prices.

p.p.p.p.s. how many people have the tobacco industry killed? how long have they been trying to hide the fact that their product kills? how have they designed it to addict people? and it's all legal! & cost efficient! wow, capitalism is so cool! because efficiency & profit are more important THAN f*ckING ANYTHING?!?!?! right.

Because someone choosing to smoke tobacco out of their own free will is just as wrong as the government putting a bullet in their brain, right?

Unbelievable.

p.p.p.p.p.s. explain EXACTLY how deregulation would fix healthcare in america.

See above. Removing artificial barriers for competition leads to greater availability and lower prices.

[NoSex]

And what you continuously ignore is the fact that they're unsustainable. If I had the ability to borrow basically unlimited amounts of money/print money out of thin air/forcibly take money from the most productive members of society, I bet I could beat medicare/medicaid in customer satisfaction.

IT STILL OUTPERFORMS PRIVATE INDUSTRY! so, if we want good healthcare, tax people as much as we need in order to have it. i haven't ignored the fact that it costs money, i have continuously addressed that: tax people! you, on the other hand, completely ignore the fact that it works better than private insurance; people like it more than private insurance. what we need is healthcare that works, &, ultimately, the cost of socialized medicine is LOWER than that of PRIVATE medicine. so, your entire problem is with taxation? notice how i'm arguing for the best healthcare for everyone, & you're arguing against taxation? notice how this isn't a thread about the moral quality of taxation?

The country would implode, but at least we'd have universal healthcare before that happen s, and that's all the matters, right?

like france and germany imploded? talk about alarmist bullshit. you sound like f*cking glen beck. go read a book you moron.

Try the same scheme in China. How's their healthcare system compared to the US?

i have no f*cking clue, i'm not an expert on chinese healthcare. are you? how about you stop ignoring my question and answer it: what EXACTLY does population have to do with it? why does universal healthcare work so well in germany and france? why would a similar system not work here in the states? give me some details, please.

Barriers to competition artificially lower the supply of things like doctors and drugs. Lower supply leads to higher prices.

exactly what barriers to competition exist that are contributing to such high costs? explain exactly what would happen if we removed said barriers & exactly how that would work.