UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE., just because everyone else does it... Rating Options

[NoSex]

so, why the f*ck don't we have universal healthcare?

[kryogenix]

LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY

I'm not going to be intimidated because your posts read like a robot

Make an argument other than "LOL UR JUST 2 DUM 2 UNDERSTAND"

[NoSex]

i have no idea what you want from me.
you say the quality will be poor, i show you that other countries have high performing, high quality socialized medicine. i show you, even further, that america's highest performing medicine is actually socialized medicine (i.e. medicare and medicaid).
you say that government can't do anything right, i show you that sometimes it can.
you say that we shouldn't trust government, i ask why we should trust corporations.
you say that you want reform, but don't describe what sort of reform that may be.

you just suck ass @ debating. it's sickening trying to discuss an issue with you; you're so obviously uninterested in what the opposition has to say.

[kryogenix]

i have no idea what you want from me.

how about engaging my arguments rather than cherry picking and regurgitating talking points from liberal blogs?

you say the quality will be poor, i show you that other countries have high performing, high quality socialized medicine.

You ignored my point about the fact that many of those countries have a population smaller than California.

i show you, even further, that america's highest performing medicine is actually socialized medicine (i.e. medicare and medicaid).

If systems that are going bankrupt within the next decade is the best socialized medicine can do, then we need LESS of it.

you say that government can't do anything right, i show you that sometimes it can.

Putting words in my mouth much? I say that government involvement introduces inefficiencies and higher costs. You ignore this.

you say that we shouldn't trust government, i ask why we should trust corporations.

Wanna keep a running tally of the evils governments have introduced to the world vs the evils corporations have? How often have corporations committed genocide? It's not even close.

If I think a healthcare insurance company is being unfair and no longer wish to pay for it, I can simply choose to stop buying their insurance. If I don't want to pay for a government service, and quit paying my taxes, my ass gets hauled off to prison.

you say that you want reform, but don't describe what sort of reform that may be.

Again, you ignoring me. Sure I have. LESS GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN HEALTHCARE. Allow the free market to regulate prices.

you just suck ass @ debating. it's sickening trying to discuss an issue with you; you're so obviously uninterested in what the opposition has to say.

Says the guy who's been ignoring me this entire time.

[NoSex]

Says the guy who's been ignoring me this entire time.

shut the f*ck up. i have pages and pages worth of posts in this thread that account for nearly all of your arguments & advance my own in much more detail & in much more accuracy than any of your arguments. your posts can only be found right here & in the first page, & half of those posts are bad jokes.

what you continuously refuse is the fact that socialized medicine outperforms private medicine all over the world & even in america. CONSUMER SERVICE SATISFACTION IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER FOR MEDICARE & MEDICAID THAN IN COMPARISON TO PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE.

p.s. what does the size of population have to do with anything?
p.p.s. we need to put more money into systems that are not adequately funded; it's no different than paying the highest prices in the world for mediocre healthcare.
p.p.p.s. what inefficiencies & higher costs do government regulations contribute? how are these related to the inefficiencies and high costs of our private industries?
p.p.p.p.s. how many people have the tobacco industry killed? how long have they been trying to hide the fact that their product kills? how have they designed it to addict people? and it's all legal! & cost efficient! wow, capitalism is so cool! because efficiency & profit are more important THAN f*ckING ANYTHING?!?!?! right.
p.p.p.p.p.s. explain EXACTLY how deregulation would fix healthcare in america.