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ACORN no longer federally funded
dosomethin888
post Sep 22 2009, 04:35 PM
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I totally support this.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-b...ederal_fun.html
 
 
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Reidar
post Nov 9 2009, 05:13 PM
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I can't help but notice your backtracking. First you said they want while male landowners in power. Now they're unintentionally racist only by association?

Classisism isn't racism. As far as that's concerned, both sides are corporatists. "Accidentally racist", just because there are racial hierarchies that exist within said classes? That would mean race is an irrelevant correlation. And saying that they were willing to overlook this supposed racism to prop up Michael Steele is exactly what I meant by baseless. I saw Steele yucking it up with Sean Hannity and even being his substitute on the show well before he was nominated. Ironically, saying that pandering isn't necessarily anything about goodwill applies to your logic on racism and pursuance of ACORN on the opposite front.

"Racist" becomes a cheap and inconsequential word when it's used in wrong pretenses and only abates real faults that politicians are guilty of.
 
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post Nov 9 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 9 2009, 05:13 PM) *
I can't help but notice your backtracking. First you said they want while male landowners in power. Now they're unintentionally racist only by association?


I haven't backtracked at all. In my post which you initially referenced, I clearly mention both racism and classism. The history of racism and the history of classism, in the United States, is tightly interwoven, such that's it's virtually impossible to separate the two. Yes, there are very poor white people, and yes, there are very rich black people, but historically, class is closely linked to race. Look at the South post-Reconstruction: once racial laws were "abolished", lawmakers used class-target laws in order to implement racist policies legally (poll taxes, for example). Furthermore, the term "white male landowner" is virtually synonymous with the aristocracy; it's more a classist term than a racist term, but the fact that it has both connotations is just an example of how race and class are intertwined in the history of the US.

QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 9 2009, 05:13 PM) *
Classisism isn't racism. As far as that's concerned, both sides are corporatists.


True -- but in this context, that's just a nice soundbite. Corporatism, racism, and classism are not mutually exclusive. Furthermore, corporatism can be thought of as just another case of classism.

QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 9 2009, 05:13 PM) *
"Accidentally racist", just because there are racial hierarchies that exist within said classes? That would mean race is an irrelevant correlation.


It's not irrelevant, as class and race are closely linked in American politics and American society. This is a consequence of America's long history with both classist and racial issues. You could trace it back to its heart and see which came first, but the two are so closely linked now that it's hard to analyze one outside the context of the other. That's not to say they're indistinguishable, just that they relate closely to one another.
 

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dosomethin888   ACORN no longer federally funded   Sep 22 2009, 04:35 PM
hypnotique   LOL   Sep 22 2009, 05:48 PM
dosomethin888   Why are you LOLing?   Sep 22 2009, 05:56 PM
hypnotique   Cause its only a matter of time when other organiz...   Sep 22 2009, 05:58 PM
dosomethin888   ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh   Sep 22 2009, 06:03 PM
mipadi   So why do you support this?   Oct 13 2009, 10:30 AM
dosomethin888   Because the govt shouldn't fund an organizatio...   Oct 13 2009, 05:09 PM
mipadi   Does that apply to corporations as well? For examp...   Oct 13 2009, 06:22 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(mipadi @ Oct 13 2009, 05:22 PM) Doe...   Oct 23 2009, 08:38 PM
dosomethin888   You failed to notice that this is the news forum.   Oct 13 2009, 09:10 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Oct 13 2009, 10:10 ...   Oct 13 2009, 10:16 PM
brooklyneast05   a forum where people can't discuss anything, s...   Oct 14 2009, 06:34 AM
mipadi   The ridiculous thing about the Defund ACORN Act is...   Oct 27 2009, 06:51 PM
Reidar   I was for the premise of this bill but it's wo...   Oct 27 2009, 07:33 PM
mipadi   The hypocrisy of this ACORN bullshit really gets m...   Nov 7 2009, 04:28 PM
kryogenix   ^So now that the left wing is in power, why are th...   Nov 8 2009, 10:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 8 2009, 10:46 PM) ^...   Nov 8 2009, 11:26 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 7 2009, 04:28 PM) If t...   Nov 9 2009, 03:16 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 9 2009, 03:16 AM) That...   Nov 9 2009, 09:36 AM
Reidar   I can't help but notice your backtracking. Fir...   Nov 9 2009, 05:13 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 9 2009, 05:13 PM) I ca...   Nov 9 2009, 06:04 PM
Reidar   QUOTE(mipadi @ Nov 9 2009, 06:04 PM) I ha...   Nov 9 2009, 07:41 PM
mipadi   Incidentally, it turns out that Fox was intentiona...   Apr 29 2010, 12:35 PM
superstitious   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 29 2010, 12:35 PM) Inc...   May 1 2010, 04:36 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(superstitious @ May 1 2010, 05:36 P...   May 3 2010, 08:24 AM


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