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Best program to make a website?
Tomates
post Aug 23 2009, 07:51 PM
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So i do a lot of layout making when it comes to myspace and such. However i kinda want to move to "bigger and better things" so to say. Especially since i feel like no one uses myspace anymore and thats made me lose interest in making myspace layouts.

Anyways, i really want to learn how to make a website i guess. Or atleast layouts for people to use for their website. I just dont know the best way.
 
 
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medic
post Aug 31 2009, 08:56 PM
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DreamWeaver, I have seen it do some bloated coding, but when a website loads in milliseconds it doesn't matter if it has extra code or not.

DreamWeaver is also good for everything beyond HTML, which is why I use it. It makes editing PHP files simplistic, when locating a given error in a PHP file DreamWeaver makes it easier, unlike say Notepad or something of that nature.

Stay away from flash, it's literally useless unless you are doing videos. Every time I see a fully flash based website it reminds me of the few months before Web 2.0 caught on, it's unpractical and ugly as hell.

I used references to learn HTML, PHP, Coldfusion, MySQL, ASP and a little Java. Found a website I liked, and ripped it apart until I found what i wanted to use.
 
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post Oct 14 2009, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(medic @ Aug 31 2009, 09:56 PM) *
Stay away from flash, it's literally useless unless you are doing videos. Every time I see a fully flash based website it reminds me of the few months before Web 2.0 caught on, it's unpractical and ugly as hell.


Obviously, it has it's drawbacks (SEO problems) but it has some sound advantages over CSS/XHTML sites (motion, interactivity). Just like any other tool, Flash has it's place and has to be utilized properly.

You seem to have a problem with the poor design a lot of Flash websites have, but there are loads of terrible CSS sites as well.

See:

http://www.v5design.com/
http://www.sensisoft.com/

Flash is not impractical or "ugly as hell" by itself.
 

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Tomates   Best program to make a website?   Aug 23 2009, 07:51 PM
elletricity   I actually don't use any programs, other than ...   Aug 23 2009, 07:58 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(elletricity @ Aug 23 2009, 08:58 PM...   Aug 23 2009, 08:03 PM
IWontRapeYou   Dream weaver   Aug 23 2009, 08:01 PM
elletricity   Do you mean, testing out things? I usually make a ...   Aug 23 2009, 08:08 PM
Tomates   how much is dreamweaver...   Aug 23 2009, 08:10 PM
elletricity   On the Adobe website, it's about $400. Yo...   Aug 23 2009, 08:13 PM
Tomates   Ouch...   Aug 23 2009, 08:17 PM
Buttsex   fyi thepiratebay   Aug 23 2009, 08:28 PM
JonHMChan   If you're in college, you can get the educatio...   Aug 23 2009, 08:35 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(JonHMChan @ Aug 23 2009, 09:35 PM) ...   Aug 23 2009, 08:41 PM
elletricity   ^This.   Aug 23 2009, 08:36 PM
elletricity   ^ WHAT SCHOOL ARE YOU GOING TO My school this past...   Aug 23 2009, 08:42 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(elletricity @ Aug 23 2009, 09:42 PM...   Aug 23 2009, 08:44 PM
elletricity   Oh okay lol. Different school. You COULD always ha...   Aug 23 2009, 08:45 PM
Tomates   I was thinking that. I found this free software ca...   Aug 23 2009, 08:50 PM
jcp   Dreamweaver makes very bloated code. You really sh...   Aug 23 2009, 08:55 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 23 2009, 09:55 PM) Dreamw...   Aug 23 2009, 09:06 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 23 2009, 09:55 PM) Dreamw...   Aug 23 2009, 09:35 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(fixtatik @ Aug 23 2009, 09:35 PM) B...   Aug 23 2009, 09:38 PM
fixtatik   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Aug 23 2009, 10:38 PM) Co...   Aug 23 2009, 09:40 PM
elletricity   ^ You'd need a website (even just freewebs or ...   Aug 23 2009, 09:11 PM
jcp   Freewebs doesnt allow php. Im writing a little so...   Aug 23 2009, 09:35 PM
elletricity   QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 23 2009, 07:35 PM) Just t...   Aug 23 2009, 10:23 PM
jcp   Im basically saying that, when you make it yoursel...   Aug 23 2009, 09:43 PM
Tomates   Im not really looking for a domain yet, but maybe ...   Aug 23 2009, 10:25 PM
jcp   How about gabi girl? Or gabe? or guppie? QUOTE(To...   Aug 23 2009, 10:32 PM
elletricity   How bout you just stick to my real name. Tomates,...   Aug 23 2009, 10:34 PM
jcp   Ok, Gabbee it is :)   Aug 23 2009, 10:38 PM
jcp   Here you go Nat. Whole Website Template   Aug 23 2009, 11:27 PM
JonHMChan   I suggest that you learn how to code from scratch....   Aug 23 2009, 11:31 PM
jcp   ^is there a 30 day trial? I watched some tutorials...   Aug 23 2009, 11:50 PM
JonHMChan   There isn't but I mean I go through about four...   Aug 23 2009, 11:51 PM
jcp   There is a 1 day trial though. Im going to wait ti...   Aug 24 2009, 12:12 AM
tcunningham   I have a unlimited volume code for the macromedia ...   Aug 24 2009, 02:54 AM
jcp   well ill be using the cs4 suite so no point. But ...   Aug 24 2009, 09:34 AM
JonHMChan   ^ Right. I mean they have a few of the movies avai...   Aug 24 2009, 07:39 PM
jcp   O! I love that idea. Ill subscribe for just a ...   Aug 24 2009, 07:42 PM
JonHMChan   ^ Right. It's really great too because you can...   Aug 24 2009, 07:45 PM
Tomates   QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 24 2009, 12:27 AM) Here y...   Aug 24 2009, 08:06 PM
JonHMChan   QUOTE(Tomates @ Aug 24 2009, 09:06 PM) Th...   Aug 24 2009, 08:18 PM
jcp   Hey Jon! I have an account with lynda.com now...   Aug 25 2009, 01:32 PM
JonHMChan   ^ PHP Essentials Training, Dreamweaver CS4 Essenti...   Aug 25 2009, 09:25 PM
jcp   I download php esential training. Photoshop for th...   Aug 25 2009, 09:40 PM
medic   DreamWeaver, I have seen it do some bloated coding...   Aug 31 2009, 08:56 PM
HeartOfPandora   QUOTE(medic @ Aug 31 2009, 08:56 PM) Ever...   Oct 13 2009, 07:47 PM
waccoon   QUOTE(medic @ Aug 31 2009, 09:56 PM) Stay...   Oct 14 2009, 12:57 AM
fixtatik   QUOTE(waccoon @ Oct 14 2009, 01:57 AM) Se...   Oct 14 2009, 11:44 AM
TheOn3LeftBehind   Another thing I would recommend is copying a code ...   Oct 13 2009, 06:32 PM
porninvader   If you want to make a dynamic website especially u...   Oct 15 2009, 10:54 AM


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