UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE., just because everyone else does it... Rating Options

[NoSex]

so, why the f*ck don't we have universal healthcare?

[NoSex]

1. we already pay for illegal immigrants, if we didn't we wouldn't have emergency clinics.
2. generally, a universal care service would only be available to citizens. so, no, illegal immigrants would not receive it. for example, the current bill being proposed has a provision which explicitly excludes illegal citizens from receiving coverage under the public program.
3. over a ten year plan, we would need to raise taxes only of those persons making $280,000 or more a year. & of joint incomes ranging between $350,000-500,000 only a 1% surtax will be applied. those making over one million dollars a year will be taxed the maxim surtax, 5%.
4. if we don't control the cost of healthcare now, we will be paying more for it later: over the last decade, healthcare premiums have doubled &, even further, the growth of healthcare costs have risen above the growth of GDP.
5. you sort of are being heartless; some of us think that decent healthcare is a human right.
6. doctors will be paid less, but as doctors are already handsomely compensated for their work, they will still maintain a position of tremendous comfort. best of all, they will finally be able to do their job, without having to wait for approval from an insurance industry. doctors go to school to help people, not to make money --- or at least, that's the way it should be.
7. in america, we wait longer for services than people in germany and in france (both of which have universal healthcare).
8. the world health organization has ranked the quality of america's healthcare as 37. this means that the WHO has identified that there are 36 systems currently operating @ a higher quality than our own system. a vast majority of those systems have a fully integrated single-payer system, including france, norway, germany, and italy.

[FizzyMilk]

1. we already pay for illegal immigrants, if we didn't we wouldn't have emergency clinics.
2. generally, a universal care service would only be available to citizens. so, no, illegal immigrants would not receive it. for example, the current bill being proposed has a provision which explicitly excludes illegal citizens from receiving coverage under the public program.
3. over a ten year plan, we would need to raise taxes only of those persons making $280,000 or more a year. & of joint incomes ranging between $350,000-500,000 only a 1% surtax will be applied. those making over one million dollars a year will be taxed the maxim surtax, 5%.
4. if we don't control the cost of healthcare now, we will be paying more for it later: over the last decade, healthcare premiums have doubled &, even further, the growth of healthcare costs have risen above the growth of GDP.
5. you sort of are being heartless; some of us think that decent healthcare is a human right.
6. doctors will be paid less, but as doctors are already handsomely compensated for their work, they will still maintain a position of tremendous comfort. best of all, they will finally be able to do their job, without having to wait for approval from an insurance industry. doctors go to school to help people, not to make money --- or at least, that's the way it should be.
7. in america, we wait longer for services than people in germany and in france (both of which have universal healthcare).
8. the world health organization has ranked the quality of america's healthcare as 37. this means that the WHO has identified that there are 36 systems currently operating @ a higher quality than our own system. a vast majority of those systems have a fully integrated single-payer system, including france, norway, germany, and italy.

Obama wants to make all illegal immigrants legal...did I mention that?

and I don't wait long for services.
The only problem I have ever had is finding a doctor that will take my insurance that wasn't 30 miles away, but I lived in a small town, now I don't. now that's not a problem.
I just don't go to waterman hospital...because after that merge they just aren't that great anymore. XD



"5. you sort of are being heartless; some of us think that decent healthcare is a human right."
DECENT health care, yes...not free. I don't think it should be free, because NOTHING it technically free, we'll still have to pay for it. and you really think the upper class people will get the get a tax raise? REALLY? I think they JUST NOW started having to pay as much as the middle and lower class people..and they're COMPLAINING...at least in my town they are, they have their protests and what not. The middle and lower class families will get stuck with the tax increase because that's just how it is.

[penpen15]

Obama wants to make all illegal immigrants legal...did I mention that?

and I don't wait long for services.
The only problem I have ever had is finding a doctor that will take my insurance that wasn't 30 miles away, but I lived in a small town, now I don't. now that's not a problem.
I just don't go to waterman hospital...because after that merge they just aren't that great anymore. XD
"5. you sort of are being heartless; some of us think that decent healthcare is a human right."
DECENT health care, yes...not free. I don't think it should be free, because NOTHING it technically free, we'll still have to pay for it. and you really think the upper class people will get the get a tax raise? REALLY? I think they JUST NOW started having to pay as much as the middle and lower class people..and they're COMPLAINING...at least in my town they are, they have their protests and what not. The middle and lower class families will get stuck with the tax increase because that's just how it is.

Obama wants to give illegal immigrants OPPORTUNITES to become legal, by taking the test and yadda yadda to gain citizenship. It's not like he's walking around with citizenship papers tossing them at any immigrant that comes his way. This way we'll have legal people who can contribute to society, and taxes, and their communities, which will end up helping America rather then what's going on now with all the illegals hurting her.

Where are you getting your services when you don't have to wait long? When I sliced my thumb on a carving knife and went to the hospital, it took 6 hours for the doctor to finally put 3 stitches in, and the bill came out to a total of 617 dollars.

You say that healthcare shouldn't be free, well why not? Out of anything in the world Healthcare should be the only thing that's free. If your own government does not care enough about it's citizens to protect their health then just how messed up is that?

The reason Middle Class America has been taxed for so long is because of Bush in term cut taxes from the rich. He cut back on the taxes that the rich have to pay, while the ones who are broke as hell had to pay more taxes. And also, please please please dont ever think that "that's just how it is" People can change things, if you don't believe it then look at slavery, i bet back when that was still around slaves thought that that was just the way it was and when women couldn't vote we thought that was just the way it was. If you aren't don't care to get angry enough to fix it, then it's always going to stay the same.