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post Jun 1 2009, 09:03 PM
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I may never have internet as fast as CJ but what is a good fast reliable internet provider?

Right now im with at&t and they suck. And it constantly goes down. It may have to do and I doubt it likes me downloading distros. I am currently using wireless, cause there is now plug for internet in my room, but i am actually moving right now and in the new house im going to be ablet o have wired internet, but my brothers will still be using wireless.

I heard comcast is good.
Im not sure how much we are paying right now my im guessing it's between 50-100. My parents understand that i need fast internet even though they don't but they are jewish so like any sane person want to spend as little money as possible. haha.
 
 
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post Jun 2 2009, 07:26 AM
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Move to Korea.
 
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post Jul 27 2009, 07:58 AM
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QUOTE(kryogenjx @ Jun 2 2009, 06:26 AM) *
Move to Korea.


Actually I am in South Korea, and have internet through LG Dacom and it f*cking blows.

When I lived in the states I had Verizon FIO's and it was the best internet I have ever had in my life. I would get ridiculous download speeds. 50 MBPs download speeds and 20 MBPs upload (not consistent speeds). It's also a fully fiber network, to the side of my house, unlike 100% of the cable companies in the US.

I loved Verizon FIOs, except you have to be patient, it's a new service and the network isn't 100% reliable yet. It's just like any other service once it hit's the ground running, it has it's problems. Though rare, I used to have hours of downtime why they installed new switches and POPs in our area. I also love the always on aspect of it, and it's always on, even when the power goes out. The modem is installed on the side of your house and a UPS is wired inside your house, which (mine) has 48 hours of batter life running the modem itself for people using VoIP and other services. When it goes out though, you can assure yourself that you will see 10-20 vans trying to figure out what the problem is. Fiber is expensive, and repairs can take a while, so they hit the ground running to find the issue.

With ALL cable companies you are sharing the internet connection with your neighborhood, and unless they just installed or upgraded your POP you are still using coax and older technologies. Meaning, degradation in signal quality, which means shitty ass service. Cable companies are a total joke with their networks.

Also those claiming to have downloaded over 100 MB it's impossible if you are using a cable network (AKA Coax) the modems 99.9% of all cable companies use only support a max of 38 MBPs down and a top out of 40 MBPs up. Not to mention, to sustain speeds even of 38 MBPs a POP would have to push the network to limits it doesn't want to, and for anything over 100 MBPs you would have to be using 10/100/1000 nic cards, modems and routers plus Cat 6 cables, which I doubt half of you are.

Verizon DSL service is top notch, it's reliable. When I had their DSL, we had a storm knock out power for about a week, and I being myself had a generator. One day I hooked up my DSL modem thinking it wouldn't work, but why not, and long behold I had internet before I had power. Verizon puts reliability of their ISP service up there with their Telecommunications service reliability, and no-one can beat it.
 
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post Jul 27 2009, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(medic @ Jul 27 2009, 08:58 AM) *
Actually I am in South Korea, and have internet through LG Dacom and it f*cking blows.

When I lived in the states I had Verizon FIO's and it was the best internet I have ever had in my life. I would get ridiculous download speeds. 50 MBPs download speeds and 20 MBPs upload (not consistent speeds). It's also a fully fiber network, to the side of my house, unlike 100% of the cable companies in the US.

I loved Verizon FIOs, except you have to be patient, it's a new service and the network isn't 100% reliable yet. It's just like any other service once it hit's the ground running, it has it's problems. Though rare, I used to have hours of downtime why they installed new switches and POPs in our area. I also love the always on aspect of it, and it's always on, even when the power goes out. The modem is installed on the side of your house and a UPS is wired inside your house, which (mine) has 48 hours of batter life running the modem itself for people using VoIP and other services. When it goes out though, you can assure yourself that you will see 10-20 vans trying to figure out what the problem is. Fiber is expensive, and repairs can take a while, so they hit the ground running to find the issue.

With ALL cable companies you are sharing the internet connection with your neighborhood, and unless they just installed or upgraded your POP you are still using coax and older technologies. Meaning, degradation in signal quality, which means shitty ass service. Cable companies are a total joke with their networks.

Also those claiming to have downloaded over 100 MB it's impossible if you are using a cable network (AKA Coax) the modems 99.9% of all cable companies use only support a max of 38 MBPs down and a top out of 40 MBPs up. Not to mention, to sustain speeds even of 38 MBPs a POP would have to push the network to limits it doesn't want to, and for anything over 100 MBPs you would have to be using 10/100/1000 nic cards, modems and routers plus Cat 6 cables, which I doubt half of you are.

Verizon DSL service is top notch, it's reliable. When I had their DSL, we had a storm knock out power for about a week, and I being myself had a generator. One day I hooked up my DSL modem thinking it wouldn't work, but why not, and long behold I had internet before I had power. Verizon puts reliability of their ISP service up there with their Telecommunications service reliability, and no-one can beat it.



You're deffinitely over-reacting with regards to the cable companies. While I realize Fios offers a dedicated highspeed line to the home, but it's very rare that a consumer needs that kind of bandwidth. Unless you're just looking for bragging rights, in most cases a 50M down / 20M up connection is a complete waste of money.
 
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post Jul 27 2009, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 27 2009, 10:57 AM) *
You're deffinitely over-reacting with regards to the cable companies. While I realize Fios offers a dedicated highspeed line to the home, but it's very rare that a consumer needs that kind of bandwidth. Unless you're just looking for bragging rights, in most cases a 50M down / 20M up connection is a complete waste of money.


For internet use yes, but for TV (HD and movies) and other things of that nature it's amazing. I stream videos fast and anything of the sort. Most consumers can live with 10 MEGS and below, but there are people with large families who are web related like mine was, who need that kind of bandwidth. At least 4 of the 5 people who used the internet in my house downloaded files larger than 500 MB and were fairly use to downloading torrents. Also, it's not really what a consumer needs, but Verizon is trying to set a new standard for ISP networks in the US. So far they are one of the only residential companies investing billions into a fully fiber back bone network, and the speeds are simply a way to show it off.
 
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post Jul 27 2009, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(medic @ Jul 27 2009, 04:42 PM) *
For internet use yes, but for TV (HD and movies) and other things of that nature it's amazing. I stream videos fast and anything of the sort. Most consumers can live with 10 MEGS and below, but there are people with large families who are web related like mine was, who need that kind of bandwidth. At least 4 of the 5 people who used the internet in my house downloaded files larger than 500 MB and were fairly use to downloading torrents. Also, it's not really what a consumer needs, but Verizon is trying to set a new standard for ISP networks in the US. So far they are one of the only residential companies investing billions into a fully fiber back bone network, and the speeds are simply a way to show it off.


I have to say, my 20Mb cable connection works just fine for streaming video from Netflix to my 360 and onto my HDTV over WiFi. Another thing to consider is that most people connect to their network via 802.11g WiFi which in reality runs at about 25-30 Mbps anyway. The advertised 54 Mbps for 802.11g is never reached.
 
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post Jul 28 2009, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 27 2009, 03:10 PM) *
I have to say, my 20Mb cable connection works just fine for streaming video from Netflix to my 360 and onto my HDTV over WiFi. Another thing to consider is that most people connect to their network via 802.11g WiFi which in reality runs at about 25-30 Mbps anyway. The advertised 54 Mbps for 802.11g is never reached.


I have seen it reached transferring files over a network, but that was with the wireless card on the desktop and the router being manufactured by the same company. Also, steaming video on a fiber compared to a coax network is noticeable when you see the difference. HD movies download in no time, as compared to a COAX shared network which will have speeds going all over the place. The FIO's network is consistent all the time when it comes to downloading files when I was using it. So, if I start downloading a file, my entire neighborhood using FIO's services could jump online and start using their internet, streaming and watching HD TV and movies, using their phones and so on, and my download speed wouldn't change at all, which isn't the case at all with cable or DSL. I tested this theory when I lived in an apartment building with some of my friends. I started downloading a 2 gig ISO via HTTP download, and had them all start downloading files from other sites while I was using my FIO's internet, and my download speed didn't fall at all. Now with a coax cable network, it would have without a doubt once other individuals started using it.
 
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post Jul 29 2009, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE(medic @ Jul 28 2009, 03:38 AM) *
I have seen it reached transferring files over a network, but that was with the wireless card on the desktop and the router being manufactured by the same company.


Before wireless N was an IEEE standard a few companies manufactured wireless N routers and just called them something else (example: Linksys SpeedBooster Technology). Many companies followed this trend, the protocols were proprietary and therefore only worked with other products from the same manufacturer.
 
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 29 2009, 06:53 AM) *
Before wireless N was an IEEE standard a few companies manufactured wireless N routers and just called them something else (example: Linksys SpeedBooster Technology). Many companies followed this trend, the protocols were proprietary and therefore only worked with other products from the same manufacturer.


I had Netgear or something like that.

I still don't like 802.11 frequencies.
 

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illriginal   lol... Any ISP that has Static IP naturally and o...   Jun 1 2009, 10:05 PM
jcp   How do I know which ones do, and which dont. O and...   Jun 1 2009, 10:17 PM
emberfly   I use roadrunner? I think... at least that's w...   Jun 1 2009, 11:07 PM
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six   243mb/s? wow   Jun 1 2009, 11:25 PM
mipadi   I use Cox right now. It's decent, not amazing,...   Jun 2 2009, 06:42 AM
kryogenjx   Move to Korea.   Jun 2 2009, 07:26 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ Jun 2 2009, 08:26 AM) M...   Jun 2 2009, 08:55 AM
medic   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ Jun 2 2009, 06:26 AM) M...   Jul 27 2009, 07:58 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(medic @ Jul 27 2009, 08:58 AM) Actu...   Jul 27 2009, 11:57 AM
medic   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 27 2009, 10:57 AM) Y...   Jul 27 2009, 03:42 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(medic @ Jul 27 2009, 04:42 PM) For ...   Jul 27 2009, 04:10 PM
medic   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 27 2009, 03:10 PM) I...   Jul 28 2009, 02:38 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(medic @ Jul 28 2009, 03:38 AM) I ha...   Jul 29 2009, 07:53 AM
medic   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jul 29 2009, 06:53 AM) B...   Jul 29 2009, 07:58 AM
jcp   Tama what do you use?   Jun 3 2009, 02:50 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(jcp @ Jun 3 2009, 03:50 PM) Tama wh...   Jun 3 2009, 02:52 PM
jcp   Holy Crap. My internet goes down every other 5 mi...   Jun 6 2009, 12:18 AM
jcp   Ok out budgets is 30 dollars. What should I get?   Jul 12 2009, 04:50 PM
Jonathan-Andrew   my speed is slow..to me.. 384 / 768 Kbps (down / ...   Jul 12 2009, 07:48 PM
jcp   Well I think we are gonna get verizon fios which c...   Jul 12 2009, 07:55 PM
Jonathan-Andrew   i hate you now.. hahaha i hate it how all my frien...   Jul 13 2009, 09:56 PM
jcp   Seriously bump... I cant get comcast in my area, ...   Jul 26 2009, 11:45 PM
Buttsex   Basic cable connection (3 down/1 up) is about 20 a...   Jul 27 2009, 01:28 AM
jcp   Crap... they can't service us! Since it...   Jul 27 2009, 10:34 AM
synatribe   I have Fio's, I have the TV, internet and wire...   Jul 27 2009, 10:57 PM
jcp   o just not in my area. I live in roanoke texas. I...   Jul 27 2009, 11:00 PM
Jonathan-Andrew   I need fios for when I play XBL and PSN... just li...   Jul 29 2009, 02:01 AM
Buttsex   QUOTE(Jonathan-Andrew @ Jul 29 2009, 02...   Jul 29 2009, 03:20 AM
medic   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jul 29 2009, 02:20 AM) Th...   Jul 29 2009, 07:42 AM
serotonin   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jul 29 2009, 03:20 AM) Th...   Jul 29 2009, 08:52 AM
medic   QUOTE(serotonin @ Jul 29 2009, 07:52 AM) ...   Jul 30 2009, 05:54 AM
jcp   Got at&t uverse.   Aug 24 2009, 02:43 PM
Buttsex   Nice ping and download, but what the f*ck is up wi...   Aug 24 2009, 04:35 PM
jcp   Idk man. I guess at&t figured that download is...   Aug 24 2009, 04:54 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 24 2009, 05:54 PM) Idk ma...   Aug 24 2009, 07:09 PM
Buttsex   By paying a crapton of money. You can still run a...   Aug 24 2009, 05:06 PM
jcp   The plan we got said 1.5mb/s but I wasnt expecting...   Aug 24 2009, 07:26 PM


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