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Drafting against own country, i think its stupid....
JlIaTMK
post Jun 30 2004, 12:48 PM
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Tell me what you think about this....

Example: The US is going to war against Iraq. You're parents immagrated from Iraq and your parents hate this war. You are drafted for the US army to go fight against Iraq but in other words u will be fighting against ur own ppl.

What do u think about this?

I hate this idea.... if i was chosen to fight against Macedonia then i would run away from this country because that country is where my parents came from and where I know my uncle lives and a lot of my relatives do.

MODS: Please dont close this topic.... I know theres a couple other topics about drafting but this is a little different
 
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 04:05 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/29/iraq.reserves.ap/index.html



There is pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills: S 89 and HR 163) which will time the program's initiation so the draft can begin at early as Spring 2005 -- just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed immediately.

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the sss annual performance plan - fiscal year 2004.

The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and HR 163 forward this year, http://www.hslda.org/legislation/na...s89/default.asp entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the committee on armed services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era.

College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the U.S. signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

Even those voters who currently support US actions abroad may still object to this move, knowing their own children or grandchildren will not have a say about whether to fight. Not that it should make a difference, but this plan, among other things, eliminates higher education as a
shelter and includes women in the draft.
 

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JlIaTMK   Drafting against own country   Jun 30 2004, 12:48 PM
kryogenix   it's fine. because as a citizen, you're ob...   Jun 30 2004, 03:20 PM
bigpoppaproppy   if the war was as bogus as iraq, i would not go. ...   Jun 30 2004, 03:28 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEif the war was as bogus as iraq, i would not ...   Jun 30 2004, 03:32 PM
Mini   well i dont think the US would ever draft again un...   Jun 30 2004, 03:35 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEwell i dont think the US would ever draft aga...   Jun 30 2004, 03:38 PM
bigpoppaproppy   the draft might be reinstatedas in america soon as...   Jun 30 2004, 03:55 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEthe draft might be reinstatedas in america so...   Jun 30 2004, 03:57 PM
bigpoppaproppy   yeh lemme find one   Jun 30 2004, 03:59 PM
bigpoppaproppy   http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/06/29/iraq.reserves.ap/...   Jun 30 2004, 04:05 PM
EmeraldKnight   That is just stupid.. the US is turning into a mil...   Jun 30 2004, 04:30 PM
Mini   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jun 30 2004, 4:30 PM)Th...   Jun 30 2004, 06:06 PM
Spirited Away   I haven't read everything yet... but what do y...   Jun 30 2004, 06:28 PM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 30 2004, 3:20 PM)it...   Jun 30 2004, 09:23 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEim sorry but i dont know how u would do it if...   Jul 1 2004, 01:29 AM
ryfitaDF   pretty soon you're going to be from america li...   Jul 1 2004, 02:33 AM
ComradeRed   The draft is illegeal, nationalism is stupid. Cho...   Jul 1 2004, 12:10 PM
PinoyOtaku   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 30 2004, 12:20 PM)If (G...   Jul 1 2004, 12:39 PM
ComradeRed   The US had a war with the Philipines back around 1...   Jul 1 2004, 06:54 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 1 2004, 6:54 PM)The US...   Jul 1 2004, 07:38 PM
ComradeRed   I would. We would be paying billions more in tax d...   Jul 1 2004, 07:51 PM
ComradeRed   For Home Country! Mother Russia!   Jul 1 2004, 07:56 PM
EmeraldKnight   Haha Minda's back .. although you shouldnt d...   Jul 1 2004, 08:30 PM
DisneyPrincessKate   No one is forced to come here. Even if your famil...   Jul 2 2004, 05:13 AM
onenonly101   I already said in the other drafts things. I AM NO...   Jul 2 2004, 10:15 AM
ComradeRed   Those would be called "war crimes", onen...   Jul 2 2004, 11:31 AM
JlIaTMK   QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jul 2 2004, 5:13 A...   Jul 2 2004, 12:54 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jul 2 2004, 12:54 PM)im guess...   Jul 2 2004, 09:12 PM
sadolakced acid   i'm of foriegn heritage, but if the US of A is...   Jul 2 2004, 09:23 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEi'm of foriegn heritage, but if the US of...   Jul 2 2004, 11:50 PM
onenonly101   My opinion stays the same throughout, i am not doi...   Jul 3 2004, 10:58 AM
ComradeRed   The draft is bad strategy. If the country starts a...   Jul 3 2004, 09:56 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEThe draft is bad strategy. If the country sta...   Jul 3 2004, 10:34 PM


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