PC vs MAC, TELL ME.! Options

[Jghelfi]

okay, i have always been wanting a mac since the first time i used the new Macbook in my 6th period at school, but i have a refurbished old 2001 PC desktop...

can somebody tell me what is good and bad between Macs and PCs..?!

i know that PCs Crash a lot
and that
Macs come with free software in the systems already..

so please somebody carify it for me!

[illriginal]

Other than multimedia software and a good window manager (mac gets my props on that), what exactly does Mac OSX for example have over Linux? I know that Mac and Linux are on two different platforms. But between specs / cost efficiency and productivity... I think Linux takes the win.

And I've been using Linux since 2001.

[mipadi]

Other than multimedia software and a good window manager (mac gets my props on that), what exactly does Mac OSX for example have over Linux? I know that Mac and Linux are on two different platforms. But between specs / cost efficiency and productivity... I think Linux takes the win.

What does Linux have over Mac OS X, aside from the fact that it's free and runs on cheaper hardware?

[illriginal]

What does Linux have over Mac OS X, aside from the fact that it's free and runs on cheaper hardware?

Cheaper in price.. not quality.

That's the thing... Mac OS X is practically the same as Linux. But there's smallest of things that make a difference.. For example, when it comes down to SQLite, SQLite sends a F_FULLFSYNC request to the kernel to ensures that the bytes are actually written through to the drive platter. This causes the kernel to flush all buffers to the drives and causes the drives to flush their track caches. So if anything, OS X should be slower.

Again, I'm not saying Mac or Linux is better than the other. In fact when people use the argument, "well I specifically use it for movie/3D animation, I advise them to go with a SGI Fuel System with IRIX

[mipadi]

That's the thing... Mac OS X is practically the same as Linux.

How so? Does Linux use Quartz as a window manager? Does it use Cocoa, and the full range of other libraries? Does software written for OS X look and behave like software written for Linux? No, no, and no. Seriously. Aside from superficial similarities in the POSIX layer, they're really nothing alike, and I'm inclined to believe you don't really have enough experience with OS X (or, perhaps, Linux) to really compare and contrast the too anyway, since you're arguing that they're "practically the same" -- unless you can somehow justify that claim.

But there's smallest of things that make a difference.. For example, when it comes down to SQLite, SQLite sends a F_FULLFSYNC request to the kernel to ensures that the bytes are actually written through to the drive platter. This causes the kernel to flush all buffers to the drives and causes the drives to flush their track caches. So if anything, OS X should be slower.

So when I'm evaluating whether I should use Linux or OS X as a desktop operating system, the fact that SQLite may be slower (a dubious claim, since I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you've neither browsed the source of SQLite, nor done any benchmarking on your own, and are just relying on some message list emails that you've stumbled across on the Internet) is a compelling reason to choose Linux? Riiiiggght.

Again, I'm not saying Mac or Linux is better than the other. In fact when people use the argument, "well I specifically use it for movie/3D animation, I advise them to go with a SGI Fuel System with IRIX

Right. Let's have someone use a dying operating system that hasn't seen an update in over 6 years, on a platform that SGI is moving away from. SGI has already committed to a move away from IRIX (which is being retired) to Linux, and their new machines don't even use MIPS processors.

Seriously, I don't want to be mean here, but -- are you just doing the techno-geek equivalent of dropping names? Have you even used SQLite on Mac OS X, or any SGI machines, or even IRIX?

[illriginal]

How so? Does Linux use Quartz as a window manager? Does it use Cocoa, and the full range of other libraries? Does software written for OS X look and behave like software written for Linux? No, no, and no. Seriously. Aside from superficial similarities in the POSIX layer, they're really nothing alike, and I'm inclined to believe you don't really have enough experience with OS X (or, perhaps, Linux) to really compare and contrast the too anyway, since you're arguing that they're "practically the same" -- unless you can somehow justify that claim.

I'm sorry... you're not going to flip this around. My initial question for you was to provide evidence of how Mac is technically better than Linux. I don't see a difference between the two on a day to day basis other than the fact that Mac has a good window manager. What makes you such a Mac snob? What does Mac do for you that Linux can't?

So when I'm evaluating whether I should use Linux or OS X as a desktop operating system, the fact that SQLite may be slower (a dubious claim, since I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you've neither browsed the source of SQLite, nor done any benchmarking on your own, and are just relying on some message list emails that you've stumbled across on the Internet) is a compelling reason to choose Linux? Riiiiggght.

That was a simple example of how the "smallest" of things can make a difference when you want to get technical.

Right. Let's have someone use a dying operating system that hasn't seen an update in over 6 years, on a platform that SGI is moving away from. SGI has already committed to a move away from IRIX (which is being retired) to Linux, and their new machines don't even use MIPS processors.

Hey it's better than Mac when it comes to movies/3D modeling etc..

And also.. if I were you, I'd make myself aware. lol it hasn't been updated in 6 years. Irix 6.5, look it up.

Oh and just so we're clear... it's still being used today. Especially by our very own government and the military. As well as science labs and forensic labs.

Seriously, I don't want to be mean here, but -- are you just doing the techno-geek equivalent of dropping names? Have you even used SQLite on Mac OS X, or any SGI machines, or even IRIX?

What does it matter if I've used SQLite on Mac OS X when it's been bench marked numerous of times. Numbers don't lie. As for SGI and IRIX, they have them at the University I went to, we got to screw around with it for 3 weeks.

So my question still stands, what exactly does Mac have over Linux? You've failed to answer my question. I'll be waitin


Oh and don't worry, I'm not even offended by your "mean" question lol.. You're not being mean, you're just being presumptuous.