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PC vs MAC, TELL ME.!
Jghelfi
post May 30 2009, 04:52 PM
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okay, i have always been wanting a mac since the first time i used the new Macbook in my 6th period at school, but i have a refurbished old 2001 PC desktop...

can somebody tell me what is good and bad between Macs and PCs..?!

i know that PCs Crash a lot
and that
Macs come with free software in the systems already..

so please somebody carify it for me!
 
 
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post Jun 2 2009, 10:47 AM
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What more are you buying than just specs?... Mac has a well paid employment force. Linux devs don't. Mac is barely any better than Linux. rolleyes.gif
 
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QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 2 2009, 11:47 AM) *
Mac is barely any better than Linux. rolleyes.gif

I think you hold a minority opinion in that regard.

I've been involved with the computer science departments at both Bucknell University (where I did undergrad) and The College of William & Mary (where I did some graduate work). W&M uses OpenSUSE Linux on Dells for their lab machines; until 2005, Bucknell used Solaris and SPARCs in their labs, but they migrated to Red Hat Enterprise Linux and Dells in '05. Historically, most professors at Bucknell have used either a SPARCstation or a Linux workstation as their office machines, and most profs at W&M have used Linux workstations. But in the past 3-5 years, most professors at both schools have migrated to using Macs. I only know of 2 profs at Bucknell who still use Solaris/SPARCs, and W&M only has a couple profs who don't use Macs. Bucknell also had a pretty good legion of student Linux users, but I know a bunch of students who bought Macs to replace their Linux machines, and now the Linux Users Group at Bucknell is practically dead, whereas the Mac Users Group has a pretty strong following.

And that trend isn't unique to the comp sci departments. Math and physics professors generally have a strong affinity for Linux, but at W&M, almost all the math profs use Macs now, and most of the math dept. at Bucknell uses Macs, too. And I personally know of one chemistry professor at Bucknell who was a diehard Linux user for over a decade, until he learned about Fink; he's switched over to the Mac, too.

Even looking at more national trends, a lot of high-profile Linux users/developers have switched to Macs in the last couple of years (search Google, many of them have written blog posts about it). A few Mac users (notably Cory Doctorow) have switched over to Linux, but the migration from Mac to Linux is barely a trickle.

Of course, popularity means jack-shit anyway. Just because something is popular doesn't make it good.



To be clear, I'm not trying to make an argument that you or anyone else should like Macs, because I don't care what you use. You can use whatever you want. But if you phrase it as an absolute like "Mac is barely any better than Linux", rather than "I personally prefer Linux to a Mac because...", then you should at least try to support your assertion. I understand that personal preference isn't something you're really obligated to justify, but that goes back to my whole point that the real issue here is preference, not a matter of specs, capability, or whatever.



On a more personal note, I'm inclined to believe that you're making that assertion because you somehow think it gives you "geek cred" to prefer Linux. Seriously, the wanking over Linux in this forum is insane, esp. since most of the Linux wankers here probably have little personal experience with Linux (i.e., less than a year or two). I mean, Linux is cool, but to be honest, it's not that awesome. And using obscure or "complicated" OSes doesn't make a person "cool". I mean, even a 9-year-old can install Ubuntu on his PC. It's not that hard.
 

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Jonathan-Andrew   PC vs MAC   May 30 2009, 04:52 PM
illriginal   MAC is too much money. And they still can't af...   May 30 2009, 04:55 PM
turkishdog   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 30 2009, 02:55 PM)...   May 31 2009, 11:34 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(turkishdog @ May 31 2009, 11:34 PM)...   May 31 2009, 11:53 PM
rnicron   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 30 2009, 04:55 PM)...   Jun 8 2009, 04:05 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(rnicron @ Jun 8 2009, 04:05 PM) um,...   Jun 8 2009, 10:48 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(rnicron @ Jun 8 2009, 05:05 PM) um,...   Jun 9 2009, 06:11 AM
jcp   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 9 2009, 06:11 AM) ...   Jun 11 2009, 02:53 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(jcp @ Jun 11 2009, 02:53 PM) Anothe...   Jun 11 2009, 04:06 PM
kryogenix   I think it's a matter of personal preference. ...   May 30 2009, 04:59 PM
DressYourEyelids   a mac does not support any computer software/progr...   May 30 2009, 04:59 PM
Just_Dream   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 30 2009, 02...   May 30 2009, 07:47 PM
kryogenix   I haven't had an issue running any programs fo...   May 30 2009, 05:04 PM
jcp   I think it's very important not to become a fa...   May 30 2009, 05:28 PM
illriginal   I would love to build my own Mac too... but you ca...   May 30 2009, 05:32 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(DressYourEyelids @ May 30 2009, 04...   May 30 2009, 07:39 PM
jcp   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 30 2009, 07:39...   May 30 2009, 08:47 PM
DoubleJ   QUOTE(jcp @ May 30 2009, 09:47 PM) Exactl...   May 30 2009, 10:19 PM
Deospeon   I go for PC. Easy to build! Easy to Customize...   May 30 2009, 10:27 PM
Buttsex   Personally, if I want UNIX, I'll go Solaris. ...   May 30 2009, 10:28 PM
jcp   QUOTE(Buttsex @ May 30 2009, 10:28 PM) Pe...   May 30 2009, 11:35 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(jcp @ May 30 2009, 11:35 PM) O so y...   May 31 2009, 01:26 AM
jcp   Who uses a trackpad anyway?   Jun 1 2009, 12:23 AM
Buttsex   QUOTE(jcp @ Jun 1 2009, 12:23 AM) Who use...   Jun 1 2009, 01:09 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 02:09 AM) Nea...   Jun 1 2009, 08:29 AM
kryogenix   butlollenovo   Jun 1 2009, 08:38 AM
Uronacid   I have to say that the only reason I don't own...   Jun 1 2009, 11:14 AM
kryogenix   I prefer using my macbook over other laptops for e...   Jun 1 2009, 11:20 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 1 2009, 12:20 PM) I...   Jun 1 2009, 11:22 AM
kryogenix   They're light and have a kickass battery, perf...   Jun 1 2009, 12:15 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 1 2009, 01:15 PM) T...   Jun 1 2009, 12:23 PM
kryogenix   Not in my experience. All that shit says it'l...   Jun 1 2009, 12:27 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 1 2009, 01:27 PM) N...   Jun 1 2009, 01:00 PM
kaijubot   Idk, I've had PCs up until 6 months ago when I...   Jun 1 2009, 01:31 PM
brooklyneast05   i agree with steven. my macbook is lighter and has...   Jun 1 2009, 01:11 PM
Buttsex   My old Gateway laptop, which had a Core 2 Duo over...   Jun 1 2009, 01:19 PM
mipadi   I always get a kick out of these "PC vs. Mac...   Jun 1 2009, 01:19 PM
Buttsex   http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm It's Li...   Jun 1 2009, 01:30 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 02:30 PM) htt...   Jun 1 2009, 04:10 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 1 2009, 04:10 PM) ...   Jun 1 2009, 05:04 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 06:04 PM) The...   Jun 1 2009, 05:09 PM
Buttsex   Because I live in an obscure tourist city, where e...   Jun 1 2009, 01:38 PM
kaijubot   did i say it applied to everyone? i thought i was...   Jun 1 2009, 02:00 PM
Buttsex   I wasn't talking to you. Everyone makes the c...   Jun 1 2009, 02:05 PM
kaijubot   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 03:05 PM) I w...   Jun 1 2009, 02:33 PM
kryogenix   sucks for you   Jun 1 2009, 02:07 PM
Buttsex   It was a counter-argument to everyone making the s...   Jun 1 2009, 02:49 PM
Uronacid   To be honest I have had nothing but good customer ...   Jun 1 2009, 02:57 PM
brooklyneast05   maybe it's just me but i never really thought ...   Jun 1 2009, 05:11 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jun 1 2009, 06:11 ...   Jun 1 2009, 05:28 PM
Buttsex   So? I'm comparing to other *nix operating sys...   Jun 1 2009, 05:11 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 06:11 PM) So?...   Jun 1 2009, 05:16 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 1 2009, 05:16 PM) Is t...   Jun 1 2009, 05:28 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 06:28 PM) You...   Jun 1 2009, 05:58 PM
superstitious   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 1 2009, 05:09 PM) Don...   Jun 1 2009, 07:58 PM
brooklyneast05   pretty sure it's in response to yours cause we...   Jun 1 2009, 05:21 PM
brooklyneast05   ^i agree with michael. and wtf at that internet bi...   Jun 1 2009, 06:06 PM
Buttsex   The main reason I got a fast internet connection i...   Jun 1 2009, 06:41 PM
Just_Dream   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 04:41 PM) For...   Jun 1 2009, 09:19 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(Just_Dream @ Jun 1 2009, 09:19 PM) ...   Jun 1 2009, 10:07 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Jun 1 2009, 07:41 PM) I j...   Jun 2 2009, 06:40 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 2 2009, 07:40 AM) No, ...   Jun 2 2009, 08:19 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jun 2 2009, 09:19 AM) I ...   Jun 2 2009, 10:04 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 2 2009, 11:04 AM) ...   Jun 2 2009, 10:20 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 2 2009, 11:20 AM) Meh....   Jun 2 2009, 10:29 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Jun 2 2009, 11:29 AM) I ...   Jun 2 2009, 10:40 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 2 2009, 11:40 AM) I do...   Jun 2 2009, 10:45 AM
jcp   The thing is, mac is the best of both worlds. You ...   Jun 1 2009, 07:03 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(jcp @ Jun 1 2009, 08:03 PM) O and o...   Jun 1 2009, 07:36 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 1 2009, 07:36 PM) ...   Jun 1 2009, 08:01 PM
boricua387   You should get the mac!! its so worth the ...   Jun 1 2009, 08:21 PM
jcp   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7eU_CUIerQ ...   Jun 1 2009, 09:09 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(jcp @ Jun 1 2009, 10:09 PM) http://...   Jun 1 2009, 09:36 PM
reupONtrees   mothaf*ckas, its called aesthetics, and yes thats ...   Jun 1 2009, 09:26 PM
Just_Dream   ^ Do you think Adobe Photoshop is ridiculously exp...   Jun 2 2009, 02:37 AM
Buttsex   QUOTE(Just_Dream @ Jun 2 2009, 02:37 AM) ...   Jun 2 2009, 03:27 AM
kryogenix   Apple doesn't use cd keys though, making it ea...   Jun 2 2009, 10:21 AM
illriginal   What more are you buying than just specs?... Mac h...   Jun 2 2009, 10:47 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 2 2009, 11:47 AM) ...   Jun 2 2009, 11:08 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 2 2009, 11:40 AM) I do...   Jun 2 2009, 10:59 AM
illriginal   Other than multimedia software and a good window m...   Jun 2 2009, 11:16 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 2 2009, 12:16 PM) ...   Jun 2 2009, 11:33 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 2 2009, 12:33 PM) What...   Jun 2 2009, 11:47 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 2 2009, 12:47 PM) ...   Jun 2 2009, 11:59 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(mipadi @ Jun 2 2009, 12:59 PM) How ...   Jun 2 2009, 12:14 PM
liquidice   neither. as soon i as i get a laptop i'm upgra...   Jun 2 2009, 11:19 AM
Uronacid   I can't believe you called him a Mac snob... ...   Jun 2 2009, 12:46 PM
Jonathan-Andrew   I dont use my computer for gaming.. i just use it ...   Jun 6 2009, 11:10 PM
jcp   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 2 2009, 11:16 AM) ...   Jun 7 2009, 12:31 AM
Just_Dream   QUOTE(jcp @ Jun 6 2009, 10:31 PM) Also, f...   Jun 7 2009, 02:53 AM
illriginal   Linux doesn't have problems with printers.. wt...   Jun 7 2009, 01:14 AM
jcp   whatevs, but im just saying that mac has software ...   Jun 7 2009, 02:00 AM
Jonathan-Andrew   ^well price is the key to satisfaction and sales.....   Jun 8 2009, 09:53 PM
dandreblac   Is a mac a laptop?? I don't know   Jun 10 2009, 10:55 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(dandreblac @ Jun 10 2009, 11:55 PM)...   Jun 10 2009, 11:00 PM
dandreblac   QUOTE(illriginal @ Jun 11 2009, 12:00 AM)...   Jun 12 2009, 09:12 PM
rnicron   actually mac (macintosh) is a line of computers, n...   Jun 11 2009, 02:49 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(rnicron @ Jun 11 2009, 03:49 PM) ac...   Jun 11 2009, 04:18 PM
elletricity   I got my Macbook for free, so I can't say much...   Jun 12 2009, 03:16 PM
Jonathan-Andrew   well i have a casual and productive lifestyle.. so...   Jun 12 2009, 08:37 PM
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