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post May 26 2009, 01:32 PM
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By a vote of 6-1 (with Justice Carlos Moreno dissenting), the California Supreme Court has upheld Proposition 8 -- while preserving the marriage licenses of 18,000 same-sex couples who wed in the months prior to the November election. Paul Hogarth is reading the 185-page Court decision as we speak, and will be reporting later today with his legal analysis of the Court's reasoning.



http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/BREAKI...rop_8_6962.html

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post May 26 2009, 10:59 PM
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As much as the Amish may appear to be outside of the mainstream, they apply for marriage licenses, they just don't need an officiant. In that case, it's called a self-uniting marriage. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07271/821194-85.stm

And, apparently, they pay taxes, too.
 
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post May 26 2009, 11:09 PM
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As much as the Amish may appear to be outside of the mainstream, they apply for marriage licenses, they just don't need an officiant. In that case, it's called a self-uniting marriage. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07271/821194-85.stm

And, apparently, they pay taxes, too.


Property tax, ya... they have to pay for the large piece of land. The IRS is upset because they've been trying to get the Amish to pay for Social Security, state taxes, and something else. But they don't have to because they don't exist outside of their own community. They don't use anything from the state other than the land they're on, which they respectfully pay their taxes on. As for Social Security, majority if not all Amish are pretty much self sufficient... or what Government calls, "self employed"

The reason why they don't need a marriage license is because it is their community who gives the yay or nay. The Amish don't depend on man made laws for civility, they depend on their religious laws.

In fact, I'm amazed that the Christians have not demanded the state to stay out of religious affairs.. since religion is not allowed to interfere with Government or state, it should be vica versa.
 

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Janette   proposition 8   May 26 2009, 01:32 PM
kryogenjx   owned.   May 26 2009, 02:17 PM
brooklyneast05   man i don't even know. honestly i can't co...   May 26 2009, 02:18 PM
kryogenjx   Yeah it's unbelievable it went this far, and i...   May 26 2009, 02:20 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ May 26 2009, 03:20 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 04:19 PM
illriginal   WOOT WOOT GO CALIFORNIA!!   May 26 2009, 02:21 PM
Janette   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 26 2009, 12:18...   May 26 2009, 04:13 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(Janette @ May 26 2009, 05:13 PM) i ...   May 26 2009, 04:38 PM
hi-C   I'm disappointed and disgusted. Talk about leg...   May 26 2009, 06:53 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 07:53 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 08:59 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ May 26 2009, 09:59 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 09:11 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 10:11 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 09:21 PM
illriginal   Religion has nothing to do with marriage? Orly?...   May 26 2009, 09:16 PM
brooklyneast05   duh she has something to back it up, read what it ...   May 26 2009, 09:17 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 26 2009, 10:17...   May 26 2009, 09:36 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 26 2009, 09:36 PM)...   May 26 2009, 09:39 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 26 2009, 10:39...   May 26 2009, 09:40 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 26 2009, 09:40 PM)...   May 26 2009, 09:42 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 26 2009, 10:42...   May 26 2009, 09:44 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 26 2009, 09:44 PM)...   May 26 2009, 09:45 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 26 2009, 10:45...   May 26 2009, 09:47 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 26 2009, 09:47 PM)...   May 26 2009, 09:48 PM
hi-C   How about marriage being a "union"? If y...   May 26 2009, 09:49 PM
hi-C   ^ I'm not saying that marriage did or didn...   May 26 2009, 09:37 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 10:37 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 09:59 PM
hi-C   Again, if religion has everything to do with marri...   May 26 2009, 09:41 PM
dosomethin888   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 08:41 PM) ...   Jun 16 2009, 03:43 AM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Jun 16 2009, 04:43 ...   Jun 16 2009, 10:19 AM
hi-C   Churches do not marry people. States do. When you ...   May 26 2009, 09:46 PM
illriginal   Right because gays are not affiliated with religio...   May 26 2009, 09:50 PM
hi-C   You know that if you don't file for a marriage...   May 26 2009, 09:53 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 10:53 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 09:57 PM
hi-C   I see what you're saying, but the answer is no...   May 26 2009, 10:05 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 11:05 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 10:13 PM
hi-C   It's not selective memory because, honestly, I...   May 26 2009, 10:24 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 11:24 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:00 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ May 27 2009, 12:00 AM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:08 PM
illriginal   I forgot to mention in regards to the marriage lic...   May 26 2009, 10:34 PM
hi-C   As much as the Amish may appear to be outside of t...   May 26 2009, 10:59 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 26 2009, 11:59 PM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:09 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 27 2009, 12:09 AM)...   May 26 2009, 11:17 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 27 2009, 12:17 AM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:22 PM
hi-C   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 27 2009, 12:22 AM)...   May 26 2009, 11:24 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 27 2009, 12:08 AM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:14 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ May 27 2009, 12:14 AM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:18 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 27 2009, 12:18 AM)...   May 26 2009, 11:40 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(mipadi @ May 27 2009, 12:40 AM) Buu...   May 26 2009, 11:44 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(mipadi @ May 27 2009, 12:40 AM) Buu...   May 26 2009, 11:51 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 27 2009, 12:51 AM)...   May 27 2009, 11:30 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(mipadi @ May 27 2009, 12:30 PM) Oh,...   May 27 2009, 11:33 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 27 2009, 12:33 PM)...   May 27 2009, 11:38 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(mipadi @ May 27 2009, 12:38 PM) I s...   May 27 2009, 11:49 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(illriginal @ May 27 2009, 12:49 PM)...   May 27 2009, 11:56 AM
hi-C   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ May 27 2009, 12:14 AM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:22 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(hi-C @ May 27 2009, 12:22 AM) ...   May 26 2009, 11:34 PM
illriginal   You're f*ckin retarded. But thanks, I've g...   May 27 2009, 12:05 PM
DontStealMyNameImJamie   I'm really disappointed with this too. Marriag...   May 27 2009, 07:48 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(DontStealMyNameImJamie @ May 27 2009, 0...   May 27 2009, 07:51 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ May 27 2009, 08:51...   May 28 2009, 10:40 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ May 28 2009, 10:40 AM) ...   May 28 2009, 10:45 AM
kryogenjx   hahahaha how shitty is that... the only way for it...   May 28 2009, 01:00 PM
reupONtrees   i miss you already   Jun 16 2009, 04:21 AM


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