proposition 8 |
proposition 8 |
*Janette* |
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QUOTE By a vote of 6-1 (with Justice Carlos Moreno dissenting), the California Supreme Court has upheld Proposition 8 -- while preserving the marriage licenses of 18,000 same-sex couples who wed in the months prior to the November election. Paul Hogarth is reading the 185-page Court decision as we speak, and will be reporting later today with his legal analysis of the Court's reasoning. http://www.beyondchron.org/articles/BREAKI...rop_8_6962.html discuss. |
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 ![]() |
uh... and? She's making it seem like marriage didn't come out of religion.. she said religion has nothing to do with it. what don't you get, those are her exact words. sure it came out of it, but that doesn't matter now. you don't have to be affiliated with a church or religious to get married. i'm an atheist and i would have no problem getting married to my girlfriend, because it has nothing to do with church. |
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she said religion has nothing to do with it. what don't you get, those are her exact words. sure it came out of it, but that doesn't matter now. you don't have to be affiliated with a church or religious to get married. they aren't related now like they were. i'm an atheist and i would have no problem getting married to my girlfriend, because it has nothing to do with church. Again.. Religion has EVERYTHING to do with marriage. Jesus Christ for once... study a religion.. ANY religion. If it had nothing to do with religion, then take off that wedding ring, it belongs to religion, not your marriage. BRB gonna smash my face into a 10 inch blade repeatedly. |
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 ![]() |
Again.. Religion has EVERYTHING to do with marriage. Jesus Christ for once... study a religion.. ANY religion. BRB gonna smash my face into a 10 inch blade repeatedly. YOU'RE REJECTING REALITY. if it REALLY had EVERYTHING to do with it, then I, an atheist wouldn't be able to get married either. maybe in your world it has everything to do with it, but in the real world, religion and marriage are NOT that related anymore because non religious people can get married any day of the week. BRB SMASHING MY HEAD AGAINST THE WALL edit: what carrie said |
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YOU'RE REJECTING REALITY. if it REALLY had EVERYTHING to do with it, then I, an atheist wouldn't be able to get married either. maybe in your world it has everything to do with it, but in the real world, religion and marriage are NOT that related anymore because non religious people can get married any day of the week. BRB SMASHING MY HEAD AGAINST THE WALL Right... technically, you can't get married in the Church. A conservative Church would have you fill out an application and more than likely if you admit you're an atheist, they would not wed you. Why? Because you don't even belong in the church to begin with lol... What you atheists should call it is, "civil unity" or another term I forget that f****ts use since it's not a legitimate marriage ordained by the Church in the eyes of God. |
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Right... technically, you can't get married in the Church. A conservative Church would have you fill out an application and more than likely if you admit you're an atheist, they would not wed you. Why? Because you don't even belong in the church to begin with lol... i don't need to get married in a church. you don't need a church to get legally married to someone. as carrie already pointed out, churches don't marry people, the state does. |
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i don't need to get married in a church. you don't need a church to get legally married to someone. Right so this is really all about the term we're using... "Marriage" literally is a religious unity between man and woman. What you non believers, including f****ts should call it, is something other than Marriage. The term Marriage simply has been brutally misunderstood and misused. Churches do not marry people. States do. When you apply for a marriage license, you don't go to your nearest church, you go to a state agency, i.e. a city hall. Ya on legal terms... then you're getting the ordinance from the State or from a Law... which pretty much voids, "marriage'. It is the Church or the Mosque or the Synagogue who makes that choice, not some petty law of the land lol... |
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 ![]() |
Right so this is really all about the term we're using... "Marriage" literally is a religious unity between man and woman. What you non believers, including f****ts should call it, is something other than Marriage. The term Marriage simply has been brutally misunderstood and misused. yo i don't even disagree. i think the state should issue civil unions to everyone and religious people can go to their churches for "marriage". but the fact of the matter, the reality of it, is that it's not done that way at this time. so this is what it is and the state (not churches alone) is denying rights to people. at this point in time, marriage is not just a religious term, and as we said the proof of that is that i can get married because im heterosexual, regardless of the fact i'm atheist. |
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