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Jews, Muslims, and Christians?
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Mikeplyts
post Apr 26 2009, 09:25 PM
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I was studying this today and got interested in it but I'm just wondering, whose land is it? Who do Christians "support" the most? Does the Bible have any relation to the Muslim or Jewish "Book"? (Sorry, forgot their names).
 
 
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illriginal
post Apr 27 2009, 11:24 AM
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lol... you're kidding right? Just because the Bible has been perverted over the centuries DEFINITELY does not mean that the Qur'an and the Torah have been. Unless of course you have some proof. I beg for that proof. In fact, if you can prove that the Qur'an itself has been tainted, I'll become an atheist right now. wink.gif
 
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post Apr 27 2009, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 27 2009, 12:24 PM) *
lol... you're kidding right? Just because the Bible has been perverted over the centuries DEFINITELY does not mean that the Qur'an and the Torah have been. Unless of course you have some proof. I beg for that proof. In fact, if you can prove that the Qur'an itself has been tainted, I'll become an atheist right now. wink.gif


Ok well when the last prophet left, Muhammad, he did not leave the Quran written, but by word of mouth. And everyone knows that when things are only spoken that they will get messed up. It wasn't till quite a bit later that some MEN sat down and tried to piece together what they believe to be real. Just by that, that will question anyone's faith.
 
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post Apr 27 2009, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Superase @ Apr 27 2009, 05:31 PM) *
Ok well when the last prophet left, Muhammad, he did not leave the Quran written, but by word of mouth. And everyone knows that when things are only spoken that they will get messed up. It wasn't till quite a bit later that some MEN sat down and tried to piece together what they believe to be real. Just by that, that will question anyone's faith.


No... they did not TRY to piece it together lol... it is like a poem. How can you change the wordage of a poem without making the poem seem distorted in any way?... happy.gif


One mistranslated word would easily break the poem or the chain of words which creates the poem. In fact right now if you handed a Muslim scholar a Qur'an with just 1 word replaced by another, he could easily tell without looking at another Qur'an because it won't make sense. Everything in the Qur'an is on a mathematical level.
 
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QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 27 2009, 06:01 PM) *
No... they did not TRY to piece it together lol... it is like a poem. How can you change the wordage of a poem without making the poem seem distorted in any way?... happy.gif
One mistranslated word would easily break the poem or the chain of words which creates the poem. In fact right now if you handed a Muslim scholar a Qur'an with just 1 word replaced by another, he could easily tell without looking at another Qur'an because it won't make sense. Everything in the Qur'an is on a mathematical level.



If you're looking at these holy books in a Poetic way then, a poem can mean one thing to one person and another to one. Any historial can simply tell you that no one is sure about whether the three main holy books are correct or not.
I guess what i'm trying to say that as simple human beings that we will never know what is truely Gods words maybe we find out when we die or something. Religion is one thing that no one will ever agree on.
 
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post Apr 28 2009, 11:57 AM
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If you're looking at these holy books in a Poetic way then, a poem can mean one thing to one person and another to one. Any historial can simply tell you that no one is sure about whether the three main holy books are correct or not.
I guess what i'm trying to say that as simple human beings that we will never know what is truely Gods words maybe we find out when we die or something. Religion is one thing that no one will ever agree on.


Thus is why the Qur'an has a partner. It's called, the Hadiths. lol

Just like the Torah has the Talmud.


Like I've mentioned before, take the Qur'an challenge. wink.gif


And if it makes you feel all warm inside to believe no one will ever agree on Religion, that's ok. But fact of the matter, you're gonna have to deal with the fact that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam will NEVER be abolished. And it is strongly commanded by God to unite and kill all non-believers who attempt to threaten our right to exist. laugh.gif
 

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Mikeplyts   Jews, Muslims, and Christians?   Apr 26 2009, 09:25 PM
illriginal   Jews and Muslims.. and Christians in the Middle Ea...   Apr 26 2009, 09:26 PM
Buttsex   Add more. None of them are right.   Apr 26 2009, 09:32 PM
illriginal   Meh take the Quranic challenge, then prove it...   Apr 26 2009, 09:37 PM
karmakiller   QUOTE(Mikeplyts @ Apr 26 2009, 09:25 PM) ...   Apr 26 2009, 10:03 PM
illriginal   Ew... just not too much philosophy. Now a days peo...   Apr 26 2009, 11:45 PM
Superase   The utlimate question! I would have to say non...   Apr 27 2009, 07:52 AM
illriginal   lol... you're kidding right? Just because the ...   Apr 27 2009, 11:24 AM
Buttsex   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 27 2009, 11:24 AM)...   Apr 27 2009, 02:42 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Buttsex @ Apr 27 2009, 03:42 PM) Th...   Apr 27 2009, 02:48 PM
Superase   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 27 2009, 12:24 PM)...   Apr 27 2009, 04:31 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Superase @ Apr 27 2009, 05:31 PM) O...   Apr 27 2009, 05:01 PM
Superase   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 27 2009, 06:01 PM)...   Apr 28 2009, 07:08 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(Superase @ Apr 28 2009, 08:08 AM) I...   Apr 28 2009, 11:57 AM
Superase   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 28 2009, 12:57 PM)...   Apr 29 2009, 05:17 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Superase @ Apr 29 2009, 06:17 PM) W...   Apr 29 2009, 05:22 PM
Buttsex   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 27 2009, 01:57 PM)...   Jul 7 2009, 12:47 AM
PurpleDaze112   My question is that if a god is so wonderful and s...   Apr 27 2009, 02:37 PM
Buttsex   That sounds like corruption to me.   Apr 27 2009, 02:50 PM
illriginal   How... corruption killed corruption? No... anyways...   Apr 27 2009, 02:52 PM
Buttsex   No, not corruption killed corruption. "Peopl...   Apr 27 2009, 02:55 PM
illriginal   Yes. It is mandatory. To have the balls to pervert...   Apr 27 2009, 02:57 PM
abrahamseed   My God is the God of Abraham, my church is Jesus C...   Jul 6 2009, 10:37 PM
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