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Guns, Are they necessary?
synatribe
post Apr 24 2009, 08:51 AM
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So besides guns being allowed in the military, do you think guns should be allowed into regular peoples hand even if they have a license or a permit for it?

Many countries that are expected to surpass the US in a couple years do not allow guns, they only allow it for strict military reasons and defense reasons. Should US adopt this too?

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post Apr 24 2009, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(synatribe @ Apr 24 2009, 09:51 AM) *
So besides guns being allowed in the military


Firearms and weapons systems are necessary tools for acheiving missions and maintaining balance in a world with dictators like KJII.

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do you think guns should be allowed into regular peoples hand even if they have a license or a permit for it?


The posession of firearms should have strict regulations but it should not be illegal. Have you ever had an armed burglar break into your home? Without a firearm, how could you possibly manage to defend yourself if he became aggressive and violent?

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Many countries that are expected to surpass the US in a couple years do not allow guns, they only allow it for strict military reasons and defense reasons. Should US adopt this too?


In a perfect world, firearms would not be needed for self defense and they can be used as tools for military action or for the sport of marksmanship. We do not live in a perfect world.
 
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post Apr 24 2009, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 24 2009, 08:58 AM) *
Firearms and weapons systems are necessary tools for acheiving missions and maintaining balance in a world with dictators like KJII.

In my OP I supported the military having guns
QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 24 2009, 08:58 AM) *
The posession of firearms should have strict regulations but it should not be illegal. Have you ever had an armed burglar break into your home? Without a firearm, how could you possibly manage to defend yourself if he became aggressive and violent?

I think without guns there would be less break in's and burgularies, I mean guns can cause confidence, if you were expecting to break into someones house without a gun, you would have to rely on complete fighting skills. This would also allow people to go out and learn self defense skills (not really important). There would for sure be fewer house break in's from younger more aggressive people, also I would rather be attacked with a knife or a stick rather then a gun cause at least I have a chance at defending myself and in court cases, at least you cannot be tried for murder if you defend yourself without a gun, people use guns to defend themselves and eventually get tried for murder, which is even worse in my opinion.
QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 24 2009, 08:58 AM) *
In a perfect world, firearms would not be needed for self defense and they can be used as tools for military action or for the sport of marksmanship. We do not live in a perfect world.

Whether you have guns or not does not really define a perfect world, it could be a safer world. What if, allowing guns into the hands of the public is actually hindering us from a utopia?
 
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QUOTE(synatribe @ Apr 24 2009, 10:09 AM) *
I think without guns there would be less break in's and burgularies, I mean guns can cause confidence, if you were expecting to break into someones house without a gun, you would have to rely on complete fighting skills. This would also allow people to go out and learn self defense skills (not really important). There would for sure be fewer house break in's from younger more aggressive people, also I would rather be attacked with a knife or a stick rather then a gun cause at least I have a chance at defending myself and in court cases, at least you cannot be tried for murder if you defend yourself without a gun, people use guns to defend themselves and eventually get tried for murder, which is even worse in my opinion.


You can't present an argument based on facts and rely solely on your opinion to get you through the debate without any facts to back up.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm

Virtually anywhere you search, the focal point is how dangerous guns are and how many crimes were committed with the use of a firearm. When, in reality, take a look at the big picture, you'll find that many of these crimes were committed with the use of an illegally obtained weapon.

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Whether you have guns or not does not really define a perfect world, it could be a safer world. What if, allowing guns into the hands of the public is actually hindering us from a utopia?

"In a perfect world..." perhaps you misunderstood me. I meant to say that there shouldn't be a need for firearms in such a capacity. Our society has far more hindering us from a utopia than the legal posession of firearms.
 

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synatribe   Guns   Apr 24 2009, 08:51 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(synatribe @ Apr 24 2009, 09:51 AM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 08:58 AM
synatribe   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 24 2009, 08:58 AM)...   Apr 24 2009, 09:09 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(synatribe @ Apr 24 2009, 10:09 AM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 09:51 AM
brooklyneast05   nah people should be able to have guns. i think t...   Apr 24 2009, 09:03 AM
emberfly   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Apr 24 2009, 09:03...   Jun 8 2009, 09:59 AM
leyvacu   I dont think guns are necessary for the public to ...   Apr 24 2009, 10:12 AM
Stuckie   Remember in school, when the teacher was talking a...   Apr 24 2009, 10:50 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Stuckie @ Apr 24 2009, 11:50 AM) Re...   Apr 24 2009, 11:28 AM
BOSS   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 24 2009, 09:28 AM) I...   Apr 24 2009, 03:09 PM
illriginal   Very much so. We live in a country in which totali...   Apr 24 2009, 12:54 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(synatribe @ Apr 24 2009, 09:09 AM) ...   Apr 24 2009, 03:29 PM
illriginal   man lol... I can't wait til the day comes, som...   Apr 24 2009, 04:30 PM
Stuckie   ^All that aint even necessary   Apr 25 2009, 08:28 AM
ToxicTaco   There should be restrictions on what caliber and w...   Apr 25 2009, 12:29 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(ToxicTaco @ Apr 25 2009, 01:29 PM) ...   Apr 25 2009, 12:50 PM
leyvacu   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 25 2009, 12:50 PM)...   Apr 25 2009, 01:14 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(leyvacu @ Apr 25 2009, 02:14 PM) ^p...   Apr 25 2009, 02:31 PM
Gigi   Okay I will admit I didn't read everything in ...   Apr 25 2009, 03:07 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Gigi @ Apr 25 2009, 04:07 PM) Which...   Apr 25 2009, 04:08 PM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(Gigi @ Apr 25 2009, 04:07 PM) Okay ...   Apr 26 2009, 01:04 AM
dosomethin888   People kill people. And if they dont have guns to ...   Apr 25 2009, 04:59 PM
ToxicTaco   "If guns kill people, then pencils misspell w...   Apr 25 2009, 10:43 PM
Uronacid   Guns start with G... Good starts with G.... Guns e...   Apr 28 2009, 03:06 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 28 2009, 04:06 PM) G...   Apr 28 2009, 03:07 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 28 2009, 04:07 PM)...   Apr 28 2009, 03:09 PM
illriginal   Exactly! I'll admit that I totally neglec...   Apr 28 2009, 03:20 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 28 2009, 04:20 PM)...   Apr 28 2009, 04:39 PM
illriginal   I just wanna make sure my target goes down within ...   Apr 28 2009, 04:41 PM
Stuckie   M4 with a M203 and M26 MASS attatchment. I dont ne...   Apr 29 2009, 10:31 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Stuckie @ Apr 29 2009, 11:31 AM) M4...   Apr 29 2009, 03:41 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 29 2009, 04:41 PM) C...   Apr 29 2009, 04:33 PM
Kontroll   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 29 2009, 03:41 PM) C...   Apr 30 2009, 01:24 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 29 2009, 04:41 PM) C...   Apr 30 2009, 01:35 PM
illriginal   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 30 2009, 02:35 PM)...   Apr 30 2009, 02:01 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(illriginal @ Apr 30 2009, 03:01 PM)...   Apr 30 2009, 02:02 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(Stuckie @ Apr 29 2009, 11:31 AM) M4...   Apr 30 2009, 09:27 AM
ToxicTaco   I'm moving to some war-neutral country where g...   Apr 30 2009, 11:18 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(ToxicTaco @ Apr 30 2009, 12:18 PM) ...   Apr 30 2009, 12:06 PM
Stuckie   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 30 2009, 08:27 AM)...   May 2 2009, 10:31 AM
twisterdp   Guns should not be allowed for common people, not ...   Jun 6 2009, 10:42 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(twisterdp @ Jun 6 2009, 11:42 AM) G...   Jun 8 2009, 08:06 AM
Stuckie   QUOTE(twisterdp @ Jun 6 2009, 09:42 AM) G...   Jun 8 2009, 11:07 AM
kryogenix   Dang I was gonna quote JC too but that post was a ...   Jun 8 2009, 10:14 AM
synatribe   I just made this topic after this http://www.bowli...   Jun 8 2009, 11:50 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(synatribe @ Jun 9 2009, 12:50 AM) I...   Jun 18 2009, 10:34 AM
RoyalSwagger   I've heard far to many stories about children ...   Jun 11 2009, 08:30 PM
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Mikeplyts   ^ i dont quite know the answer to that, but i gott...   Jun 20 2009, 06:20 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Mikeplyts @ Jun 20 2009, 07:20 AM) ...   Jun 23 2009, 03:28 PM


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