Atheist's 3 Questions Answered With A Slap, Literally Options

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There was a young man who went overseas to study for quite a long time. When he returned, he asked his parents to find him a religious scholar or any expert who could answer his 3 Questions.

Finally, his parents were able to find a Muslim scholar.
Young man: Who are you? Can you answer my questions?

Scholar: I am one of Allah (SubHana Wa Ta`ala )'s slaves and Insha-Allah
(God willing), I will be able to answer your questions.

Young man: Are you sure? A lot of Professors and experts were not able to answer my questions.

Scholar: I will try my best, with the help of Allah( SubHana WaTa`ala).

Young Man: I have 3 questions: 1. Does God exist? If so, show me His shape.

2. What is taqdir (fate)?

3. If shaitan (Devil) was created from the fire, why at the end he will be thrown to hell that is also created from fire. It certainly will not hurt him at all, since Shaitan (Devil) and the hell were created from fire. Did God not think of it this far?

Suddenly, the Scholar slapped the young man's face very hard.

Young man (feeling pain): Why do you get angry at me?

Scholar: I am not angry. The slap is my answer to your three questions.

Young Man: I really don't understand.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young Man: Of course, I felt the pain.

Scholar: So do you believe that pain exists?

Young Man: Yes.

Scholar: Show me the shape of the
pain!

Young Man: I cannot.

Scholar: That is my first answer. All of us feel God's existence without being able to see His shape... Last night, did you dream that you will be slapped by me?

Young Man: No.

Scholar: Did you ever think that you will get a slap from me today?

Young Man: No.

Scholar: That is takdir (fate) my second answer........ My hand that I used to slap you, what is it created from?

Young Man: It is created from flesh.

Scholar: How about your face, what is it created from?

Young Man: Flesh.

Scholar: How do you feel after I slapped you?

Young Man: In pain.

Scholar: Thats it. This is my third answer, Even though Shaitan (Devil) and also the hell were created from the fire, if Allah wants, insha-Allah (God willing), the hell will become a very painful place for Shaitan Allah said “If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you.'

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i don't think you can "choose" to be anything under an omniscient god anyway. you can't make choices under a god who knows everything since you can't choose to do anything other than what he already knows you'll do. if you were ever to make a choice that god didn't know the answer to beforehand then god wouldn't know everything.

so i don't really think gay people should worry too much about it because what else could they have done? it's not like it was any big surprise to god that that they are gay.

NO WORRIES HOMOSEXUALS!

Ah the free will argument. Everyone in fact does have freewill, just because God knows every possible move you can make doesn't mean you don't have freewill. God isn't forcing you to do anything.. but God does know every possible thing you'll do. Including, knowing that you'll go to hell and heaven, but it is you who makes the choices in your life.

Nice fallacy. Ill hit you with one too. Prove that gays are born gay.

Then don't bring gays into this argument. This thread had nothing to do with gays, yet you're getting emotional because God finds homosexuality distasteful and disrespectful.

Once again you're stupid. Stop pulling the "prove they were born" card. I could say the same and reverse it and say "prove that gays AREN'T born gay". It'll go in circles, so it's pretty pretty to toss that card around.

Meh.. get over it.

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Ah the free will argument. Everyone in fact does have freewill, just because God knows every possible move you can make doesn't mean you don't have freewill. God isn't forcing you to do anything.. but God does know every possible thing you'll do. Including, knowing that you'll go to hell and heaven, but it is you who makes the choices in your life.

no, you have no choice. you can read what you said and know you have no choice. if god knows before you're even born that you will go to hell, then you will go to hell. if he doesn't know which one you'll go to, he isn't omniscient, period.

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no, you have no choice. you can read what you said and know you have no choice. if god knows before you're even born that you will go to hell, then you will go to hell. if he doesn't know which one you'll go to, he isn't omniscient, period.

You will go to hell if you make all the wrong choice...

Every little move we make, has already been known to God... the scenerios would be:

It is Sunday night and you gotta go to work Monday:

A) You go to sleep at 3AM and you wake up late for work, God already knew this scenerio

B) You go to sleep at 11PM and you wake up on time for work, God already knew this scenerio

Every little action you make and every little thought you make has already been known to God.

It's a pattern known to God even before your family tree was created until what it is today.


It's like if you were given these numbers: 1 3 5 7 8 5 0 10 22
Just by lookin at it, you know every single answer to every single math equation ever known to man.


God already knows A "AND" B it's up to you to choose which one... no matter what he already knows the answer for both...

He knows what's gonna happen when you choose A

AND

He already knows what's gonna happen if you choose B.

God already knows why you're going to heaven AND going to hell.

It is your freewill to choose your path. Either way God knows every single reason why you belong in

heaven depending the path you choose AND God knows every single reason why you belong in hell

depending the path you choose.



God already set your millions and trillions etc.. of different endings...

It's up to you to pick which way you want to end it.

Your subconcsious chooses your path, your concsious doesn't know your path cuz you're only living your days.

Every little second in time that you make an action effects your paths you choose.



If you can't understand this, then there's no hope and we should just discontinue the talks of free will.