socialism v. capitalism: Rating Options

[NoSex]

i view capitalism as a mode of economic & social infancy. i think that it is regressive to society, poisonous, & under-developing.

i point to these basic "flaws" in capitalism*:
1. the emphasis on profit as opposed to utility.
2. the creation of oligarchy & plutocracy.
3. the unfair/uneven distribution of wealth.
4. the creation of a significant class divide.
5. the inability of capitalism, alone, to provide the people with necessities.
6. the exploitation of the working class.
7. the existence of crime in excess, caused by class struggle, poverty, & proletariat anxiety.
8. the creation of an oppressive institution (i.e. the police state, the church, the education system) in order to secure profits to a specific & elite population.

i point to these basic "benefits" in socialism*:
1. the emphasis on utility.
2. the destruction of plutocracy & (in many forms) oligarchy.
3. the fair distribution of wealth.
4. the destruction of a significant class divide.
5. the ability of socialism to provide for its people, necessities.
6. the affirmation of the working class.
7. the absence of crime invoked by squalor & proletariat anxiety.
8. the destruction of specific oppressive institutions & the opportunity to reform the state (i.e. despite the pull of capital & profits).

DISCUSS.

*quotation marks provided for argument's sake. whatever.

[illriginal]

Dood... Uronacid, in order for someone to live by themselves with that sort of wage... they couldn't even own a car, no cell phone, no fast food, nor any form of entertainment. They would work just to pay rent (no where in South Florida can you find an apartment for $400 or even $500 a month), electricity, groceries (barely any groceries at that), and possibly cable.

Forget owning a car, forget saving money, forget owning a cell phone, forget buying new things such as clothes, jewelry, fragrances, shoes etc.. I could never work just to pay bills.. I would feel like a slave!

Minimum wage, like I said earlier, is more for highschool kids, possibly college students. It is not meant for an adult who has or wants to have a normal enjoying life. Minimum wage is straight slave labor money.


Just to give an idea on just groceries a lone. I live with my lady and between me and her our groceries easily hit $300+ a month. Granted we do bulk shopping so that we save money... if we were to buy as much food at a normal grocery store we'd be spending more like $450 a month.