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socialism v. capitalism: |
Mar 26 2009, 01:45 PM
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i view capitalism as a mode of economic & social infancy. i think that it is regressive to society, poisonous, & under-developing.
i point to these basic "flaws" in capitalism*: 1. the emphasis on profit as opposed to utility. 2. the creation of oligarchy & plutocracy. 3. the unfair/uneven distribution of wealth. 4. the creation of a significant class divide. 5. the inability of capitalism, alone, to provide the people with necessities. 6. the exploitation of the working class. 7. the existence of crime in excess, caused by class struggle, poverty, & proletariat anxiety. 8. the creation of an oppressive institution (i.e. the police state, the church, the education system) in order to secure profits to a specific & elite population. i point to these basic "benefits" in socialism*: 1. the emphasis on utility. 2. the destruction of plutocracy & (in many forms) oligarchy. 3. the fair distribution of wealth. 4. the destruction of a significant class divide. 5. the ability of socialism to provide for its people, necessities. 6. the affirmation of the working class. 7. the absence of crime invoked by squalor & proletariat anxiety. 8. the destruction of specific oppressive institutions & the opportunity to reform the state (i.e. despite the pull of capital & profits). DISCUSS. *quotation marks provided for argument's sake. whatever. |
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Mar 27 2009, 02:08 PM
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
shrugs, i'm just thinking of people who have been f*cked since day one. like minorities who got thrown into poverty and are still trying to figure out how to get out. how to get educated when you're stuck somewhere with shitty schools. how to get a college education so you can get a better job when you're family needs you to go to work asap so you can buy food.
i don't get how people are always supposed to find time to get ahead while they're trying to just get by. |
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NoSex socialism v. capitalism: Mar 26 2009, 01:45 PM
kryogenix I'm not opposed to socialistic ideals/systems ... Mar 26 2009, 02:05 PM
illmortal How would you define, "fair distribution of w... Mar 26 2009, 03:05 PM
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mike0C Capitalism > Socialism. Apr 23 2009, 10:06 PM
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